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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:13:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:08:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:00:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>BlackBerry Mobile Phone  8900 Features: 
	General 2G Network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 
	Dimensions: 109 x 60 x 13.5mm 
	Weight: 110gms 
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	Size: 480 x 360 Pixels, 2.4 inches 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>BlackBerry Mobile Phone  8900 Features:<br />
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			<title><![CDATA['iPhone Does Not, Droid Does' have a weird 24. 5 day bug cycle ;>)]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:51:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Nov 19, 12:35*am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote: 
> At 18 Nov 2009 06:51:34 -0800 Vic wrote: 
> 
> > Verizon Accused of Remote Controlling Droid: Truth Somewhat Stranger 
> 
> > * * * By Charlie Sorrel Wired.com Author 
> > * * * November 18, 2009 *| 
> > * * * 6:39 am *| 
> > *...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>On Nov 19, 12:35*am, Todd Allcock &lt;eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com&gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; At 18 Nov 2009 06:51:34 -0800 Vic wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; Verizon Accused of Remote Controlling Droid: Truth Somewhat Stranger</font><br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; * * * By Charlie Sorrel Wired.com Author<br />
&gt; &gt; * * * November 18, 2009 *|<br />
&gt; &gt; * * * 6:39 am *|<br />
&gt; &gt; * * * Categories: Phones</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &lt;Snip&gt;<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; * * Am I the only one who thinks that if Apple issued an over-the-air<br />
&gt; &gt; iPhone software update  no notice, no confirmation  that it would<br />
&gt; &gt; generate a Category 5 shit storm?</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Perhaps, but it'd be tempered by the sheer joy that a minor bug could be<br />
&gt; fixed without having to waste an hour or two backing up the device,<br />
&gt; reflashing the entire OS image and restoring all user data like iPhone<br />
&gt; owners seem to have to go therough every couple of months. *3.0 was<br />
&gt; released in July- by October how many minor revisions have been thrown at<br />
&gt; us? *Three? *Four? *<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Certainly the iPhone set the bar higher as to the painlessness of<br />
&gt; upgrading compared to Blackberry and WinMo, but Android and its<br />
&gt; background OTA upgrades knocked that bar into the stratosphere.</font><br />
<br />
What are you talking about?<br />
<br />
That bug hasn't been fixed, as well as a whole lot more.<br />
<br />
<br />
If one can introduce new OS firmware code automatically without your<br />
consent it seems to me the prefect vector for a Russian mob hacker<br />
attack at some time in the near future when enough of these are out<br />
there to make it worth while.<br />
<br />
Apple gives you a choice to upgrade or not. They do not force you to<br />
do anything. You have freedom of choice  with Apple.<br />
<br />
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			<dc:creator>Locked into a Droid with BIG RED...$350 will buy your freedom</dc:creator>
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			<title>The iPhone is killing Verizon</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:19:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in 
news:slrnhg7vpm.4c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com: 
 
> On 2009-11-18, Locked into a Droid with BIG RED...$350 will buy your 
> freedom <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> More new customers came to AT&T for the iPhone than the total number 
>> of new...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Dennis Ferguson &lt;dcferguson@pacbell.net&gt; wrote in<br />
news:slrnhg7vpm.4c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; On 2009-11-18, Locked into a Droid with BIG RED...$350 will buy your<br />
&gt; freedom &lt;vic.healey@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; More new customers came to AT&amp;T for the iPhone than the total number<br />
&gt;&gt; of new subscribers gained by Verizon with all handsets during the<br />
&gt;&gt; September quarter.</font><br />
&gt; [...]<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt;</font></font><br />
<a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/11/17/verizon_rumored_to_embra" target="_blank">http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...mored_to_embra</a><font color="blue"><font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; ce_palm_in_2010_to_combat_iphone.html</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; For what it is worth the number of subscribers the article claims<br />
&gt; Verizon added last quarter appears no where in Verizon's 10-Q, and<br />
&gt; the number which does appear in Verizon's 10-Q, 1.32 million, while<br />
&gt; not a whole lot better, actually exceeds the number of AT&amp;T iPhone<br />
&gt; customers the article claims were added (1.28 million).  The above<br />
&gt; claim makes a nice quip, but doesn't seem to be true.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; It seems to be the case, however, that AT&amp;T only offers the iPhone<br />
&gt; to retail postpaid customers and AT&amp;T only added 1.39 million of<br />
&gt; those last quarter.  If 1.28 million of those really bought iPhones<br />
&gt; then the rest of AT&amp;T's handset line did a whole lot worse than<br />
&gt; Verizon.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Dennis Ferguson<br />
&gt;</font><br />
<br />
I wonder what the iPhone churn figures look like.  They're sure rippin<br />
off the software heavily....<br />
<a href="http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPhone/iPhone/news.asp?c=16836" target="_blank">http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPhon...ws.asp?c=16836</a><br />
<br />
The Borg has new offerings to slow the iPhone churn:<br />
<a href="http://news.vzw.com/news/2009/01/pr2009-01-23a.html" target="_blank">http://news.vzw.com/news/2009/01/pr2009-01-23a.html</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11603" target="_blank">http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11603</a><br />
<br />
Crazy Nokia is actually working to get the hackers to mod the new N900<br />
phones!  They even have a blog about it!<br />
<a href="http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/index.php/2009/10/31/drum-roll-please/" target="_blank">http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/inde...m-roll-please/</a><br />
<br />
.....even the skaters are hackin' it!<br />
<a href="http://prometoys.net/solderingskaters/" target="_blank">http://prometoys.net/solderingskaters/</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
--<br />
Larry<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Which AT&T phones offer WiFi and play youtube?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:14:01 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[jc <jobs@webdos.com> wrote: 
> > If you have a non-BlackBerry data plan, as I did when I first bought the 
> > Bold, you can use the 3G, but you cannot use the WiFi. 
 
> You were able to surf on a BlackBerry using non-BlackBerry data plan? 
> interesting. 
 
I could use the 3G for surfing with the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>jc &lt;jobs@webdos.com&gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; If you have a non-BlackBerry data plan, as I did when I first bought the<br />
&gt; &gt; Bold, you can use the 3G, but you cannot use the WiFi.</font></font><br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; You were able to surf on a BlackBerry using non-BlackBerry data plan?<br />
&gt; interesting.</font><br />
<br />
I could use the 3G for surfing with the SIM card and data plan that I had<br />
been using on my Nokia 6126 phone, but I could not use WiFi, even my own at<br />
home.  As soon as I added the BlackBerry Data Plan, then I could surf 3G<br />
and WiFi.  It does a decent job of toggling between the two, but sometimes<br />
it will continue to use 3G when WiFi is available.<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; Can anybody confirm WIFI will work on a Bold witout the Data Plan?</font><br />
<br />
I didn't phrase that very well... My reading of the web page is that you<br />
disable 3G data login, and it will connect to WiFi.<br />
<a href="http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=rim&amp;thread.id=45769" target="_blank">http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/b...hread.id=45769</a><br />
<a href="http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=rim&amp;thread.id=47166" target="_blank">http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/b...hread.id=47166</a><br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; I'm also wondering, if AT&amp;T will give me a hard time about dropping<br />
&gt; the data plan as I will purchase the phone a discount I suspect<br />
&gt; because they are expecting me to carry a Data plan cost.</font><br />
<br />
&quot;dropping&quot; would be a different thing than moving a non-BlackBerry SIM into<br />
a BlackBerry.  You are &quot;required&quot; to have a BlackBerry Data Plan, although<br />
there doesn't seem to be any recognition of the fact that you might have<br />
moved a SIM from a phone to a BlackBerry.<br />
<br />
--<br />
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA  GPS: 38.8,-122.5<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Removing AT&T Blackberry Data plan from account?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:19:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[In message 
<47221ecf-145d-4ede-8146-96ee48c2dc1d@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> jc 
<jobs@webdos.com> was claimed to have wrote: 
 
>Isn't the PIN in the SIM card? I'm moving the SIM card from old phone 
>to the new phone. 
 
No.  Being able to move a SIM between devices was too easy, so RIM added...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>In message<br />
&lt;47221ecf-145d-4ede-8146-96ee48c2dc1d@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com&gt; jc<br />
&lt;jobs@webdos.com&gt; was claimed to have wrote:<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt;Isn't the PIN in the SIM card? I'm moving the SIM card from old phone<br />
&gt;to the new phone.</font><br />
<br />
No.  Being able to move a SIM between devices was too easy, so RIM added<br />
some complexity to the matter, each Blackberry has a PIN which is used<br />
for communication between the Blackberry and BES/BIS.<br />
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			<title>More Android Love from Developers</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:13:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Nov 17, 1:17*pm, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote: 
> At 16 Nov 2009 19:13:15 -0800 Vic wrote: 
> 
> > Android Love can be so PAINFUL! 
> 
> > Androids Rapid Growth Has Some Developers Worried 
> > from Gadget Lab by Priya Ganapati 
> 
> > A year after its release, Googles open...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>On Nov 17, 1:17*pm, Todd Allcock &lt;eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com&gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; At 16 Nov 2009 19:13:15 -0800 Vic wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; Android Love can be so PAINFUL!</font><br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; Androids Rapid Growth Has Some Developers Worried<br />
&gt; &gt; from Gadget Lab by Priya Ganapati</font><br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; A year after its release, Googles open source Android operating<br />
&gt; &gt; system has become a sensation. After a slow start, it is now available<br />
&gt; &gt; on at least 12 phones, with more devices waiting in the wings.</font><br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; Good news for Android fans, right? Not really, say some developers. A<br />
&gt; &gt; slew of problems have made managing Android apps a nightmare, they<br />
&gt; &gt; say, including three versions of the OS (Android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.0),<br />
&gt; &gt; custom firmware on many phones, and hardware differences between<br />
&gt; &gt; different models...</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; How is this any different from other platforms? *Wintel PCs certainly<br />
&gt; don't have 100% standardized hardware; Blackberries, WinMo and Symbian<br />
&gt; devices have form factors and hardware and firmware differences all over<br />
&gt; the map, and even the iPhone platform has become fragmented; you have<br />
&gt; devices without microphones (1st-gen iPod Touch), some with and some<br />
&gt; without a GPS, only one with a compass, etc. *And, unless Apple wants to<br />
&gt; be leap-frogged eternally, even its &quot;standard&quot; 480x360 display size will<br />
&gt; eventually have to give way to higher res displays, potentially breaking<br />
&gt; compatibilitywith the entire app store catalog someday (although<br />
&gt; presumably Apple will empoy some type of pixel-doubling &quot;compatibilit<br />
&gt; mode&quot; when the day comes.)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; A platform is just that- a platform, not a device. *As Android continues<br />
&gt; to shake out, device manufacturers will have to ensure compatibility with<br />
&gt; the growing base of applications, not the other way around, like Tandy<br />
&gt; discovered with their &quot;quasi&quot;-PC compatible computers of the early 1980s-<br />
&gt; at first they were able to court developers to rewrite or patch their<br />
&gt; software to run on the Tandy platform but Tandy was eventually forced to<br />
&gt; &quot;get in line&quot; like everyone else and make their products conform to the<br />
&gt; market's wishes. *Android will be the same- if a significant number of<br />
&gt; Andriod apps won't run a model such-and-such, that manufacturer will<br />
&gt; learn a painful lesson and shape up.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Of course, devs will also have to learn to play by the rules and avoid<br />
&gt; coding for undocumented functions and features- something one can get<br />
&gt; away with on a platform with just a few devices, but not one with dozens<br />
&gt; or hundreds.</font><br />
<br />
Then a logical conclusion is that the Android isn't a desirable<br />
platform to develop for at this time but might be someday?<br />
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			<dc:creator>Verizon Wireless now charges up to $350 early termination fees per phone on your account</dc:creator>
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			<title>More Droid love from real users</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:41:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On 11/16/09 11:13 PM, in article Xns9CC62522E5E7noonehomecom@74.209.131.13, 
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote: 
 
> George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in news:C7276104.388DA% 
> ghost_topper@hotmail.com: 
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>> You should not really be so bitter because you sold you AAPL in 2005.]]></description>
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On 11/16/09 11:13 PM, in article Xns9CC62522E5E7noonehomecom@74.209.131.13,<br />
&quot;Larry&quot; &lt;noone@home.com&gt; wrote:<br />
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&gt; George Kerby &lt;ghost_topper@hotmail.com&gt; wrote in news:C7276104.388DA%<br />
&gt; <a href="mailto:ghost_topper@hotmail.com">ghost_topper@hotmail.com</a>:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; You should not really be so bitter because you sold you AAPL in 2005.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Your concept of how stock is traded by daytraders is way off.  We'd<br />
&gt; NEVER hold a stock LONG!  That's just suicide.  Only the suckers &quot;hold&quot;<br />
&gt; stock and are loyal to the corporations.  They're the ones jumping out<br />
&gt; of windows....<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I have missed the opportunity to do a little AAPL trading since its $85<br />
&gt; bottom the week of March 2.  I don't trade expensive stocks very often,<br />
&gt; anyway.  Money multiplies when a $2.12 stock mysteriously rises to $6.83<br />
&gt; on a rumor some big bank is going to buy this bankrupt little bank.<br />
&gt; Notice how the multiplier here is 3.22.  If AAPL were $100/share, for<br />
&gt; similar short-term performance, it's price would have to go to $322 to<br />
&gt; match the profit margin of the failed bank.  That's just not going to<br />
&gt; happen to an expensive stock very often.  If you nervously punched the<br />
&gt; button for $5000 worth of Harper Valley PTA at 2.12 and it jumped to<br />
&gt; just $6.83 by Monday when you guessed WRONGLY it wouldn't go any higher,<br />
&gt; your $5000 only became $16,100 (when it could have been over $20K).<br />
&gt; This kind of thing happens in DAYS to really cheap stock, not months or<br />
&gt; years like AAPL.  You could starve by then!<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Well Fargo did me a big favor this past year bailing out the failed<br />
&gt; Wachovia Bank from Charlotte.  I bought Wachovia for only 98c/share the<br />
&gt; day it crashed hard, figuring someone would want all those customers and<br />
&gt; locations throughout the South.  By Friday Wells-Fargo was offering me<br />
&gt; $7/share, IF the deal went through, but I wanted to sleep that weekend,<br />
&gt; so I dumped it on Friday afternoon at $6.93.  My initial investment of<br />
&gt; $10K, which pretty much wiped my account dry on this hunch, became<br />
&gt; $70,714 that week, wiping out my Social Security checks for several<br />
&gt; years after they found out about it....(c;]<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I'm only bitter I worked 50 years as an electronics technician, an<br />
&gt; honest work, when I could have made MUCH MUCH better money and lived far<br />
&gt; better all those years if I sat on my ass in front of this screen and<br />
&gt; played with the keys...fixing nothing, contributing nothing to the well<br />
&gt; being of the country.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; AAPL's too slow, too expensive.  It should have been split many times in<br />
&gt; the past to a more reasonable price that didn't carry with it the<br />
&gt; psychological baggage of being a major investment to the investing<br />
&gt; masses.  Wall Street loves it because it rises slowly to sell lots of<br />
&gt; shares they suck off the commissions from, then crashes hard at regular<br />
&gt; intervals causing the suckers to dump it cheap so the cycle can repeat.<br />
&gt; Remember when it WAS $194 Dec 3, 2007, then dropped to $124 Feb 11,<br />
&gt; 2008?  Lots of people panicked and lost their ass...LONG INVESTORS.<br />
&gt; Then, it recovered to $181 in May and crashed 3 times in 3 weeks to $82<br />
&gt; and stayed there from the 2nd week in October to the 2nd week in March.<br />
&gt; That must have been just devastating to someone holding on for dear life<br />
&gt; to AAPL as during that dark period It didn't appear it was ever going up<br />
&gt; again....but it came back as the LIES on TV of a &quot;recovery&quot; kept being<br />
&gt; pounded into their heads.  I could have bought in March under $100 but<br />
&gt; the multipler to today is only 2X what you paid for it because it's SO<br />
&gt; expensive.  No thanks.  Panic sets in to these expensive stocks way too<br />
&gt; often when something in the economy glitches....except, of course,<br />
&gt; Warren's Berkshire-Hathaway at $101,000+/share, even after he bought the<br />
&gt; huge railroad...just so he could drive the train...(c;]<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I'm a little guy playing penny stocks.  It's very addictive, much more<br />
&gt; than a casino where you're guaranteed to lose your ass.  Here, you can<br />
&gt; actually win regularly if you're attentive.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I'm not very scientific, though.  I like to gamble.  Otherwise I'd just<br />
&gt; follow these guys around:<br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.daytradingradio.com/" target="_blank">http://www.daytradingradio.com/</a><br />
&gt; who daytrade very scientifically over a wide range with great results.<br />
&gt; On the webpage are his trades and earnings.  Take a look.  He fails just<br />
&gt; like I do, at times.  But, he wins a lot more often using scientific<br />
&gt; methods you can learn by simply watching him trade when the market opens<br />
&gt; in the morning.  He even lets you watch for free, hoping to sell you<br />
&gt; more.  Great fun to listen to while you lose your ass or win....(c;]<br />
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Tell all that to Warren Buffet. I'm sure he will take your advice, Lar.<br />
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(I know it impressed the gals at the Waffle House, tho...)<br />
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote: 
 
> "Verizon Wireless now charges up to $350 early termination fees per phone 
> on your account" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:99f29752-6122-4813- 
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On 11/15/09 11:36 PM, in article Xns9CC5644CE2B8noonehomecom@74.209.131.13,<br />
&quot;Larry&quot; &lt;noone@home.com&gt; wrote:<br />
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&gt; &quot;Verizon Wireless now charges up to $350 early termination fees per phone<br />
&gt; on your account&quot; &lt;vic.healey@gmail.com&gt; wrote in news:99f29752-6122-4813-<br />
&gt; <a href="mailto:b7db-3b7cb7f5885c@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com">b7db-3b7cb7f5885c@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com</a>:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; Do you know any frustrated iPhone users who thought they were cool by<br />
&gt;&gt; switching to Verizon's Droid who are now dragging back to home to<br />
&gt;&gt; Apple? I read of one account in an online newspaper tech column today.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Droid users will find that the fantastic Motorola S9 or S9HD bluetooth<br />
&gt; headsets will pair on both handsfree and A2DP bluetooth stereo with the<br />
&gt; Droid, like any other premium Motorola phone with an MP3 player to give you<br />
&gt; simply amazing stereo sound for about a street price of $70-80 for the<br />
&gt; S9HD.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Be very wary of online sales gimmicks promising S9 headsets for $30 from<br />
&gt; online sellphone stores.  I had a problem with a busted S9 delivered from<br />
&gt; one of these shysters but the nice people at Chase VISA did a chargeback to<br />
&gt; the merchant who became MUCH more cooperative with an RMA after he found he<br />
&gt; wasn't going to be paid....(c;]<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I've never found a better in-the-ear stereo headset than the Motorola S9HD.<br />
&gt; It makes my MotoROKR Z6m phone sound like a huge DJ system...and never<br />
&gt; makes a mechanical noise when you move your head.</font><br />
They sound well, but the comfort factor keeps me from using them as much as<br />
I would like. (S9HD)<br />
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