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NBN a ploy to break up Telstra: AAPT

Aussie Bob — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:00:12 GMT

Jonathan Wilson wrote

>> 3mb is more than fast enough.

> What a load of bullshit.

We'll see...

> There are all kinds of reasons why people would want more bandwidth, many of them legal.

We'll see...

> Examples:
> Watching legal online video e.g. iView

Works fine at 3Mb, and thats the upload speed that iView doesnt use anyway.

> Keeping a linux system up-to-date (try keeping a Gentoo box up-to-date on a slow internet link for example)

Works fine at 3Mb, and thats the upload speed that iView doesnt use anyway.

> Buying online content (Steam, iTunes, Xbox Live etc)

Works fine at 3Mb, and thats the upload speed that iView doesnt use anyway.

> Online voice and video chat (VoIP etc)

Works fine at 3Mb, and thats the upload speed that iView doesnt use anyway.

> IPTV

Works fine at 3Mb, and thats the upload speed that iView doesnt use anyway.

> I can tell you right now that I dont download illegal content and dont use BitTorrent at all and there is no way I
> would be happy with 3Mbps speeds

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

What you may or may not claim to be happy with in spades.

Telstra: We are not an IT services company

Aussie Bob — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:46:28 GMT

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:46:28 +0800, "Aussie Bob"
wrote:

>Telstra is not an IT services company and would "never become an IT services
>company," Thodey said.

Tel$tra is a lot of nothing, Bob Bot.

Telstra announces carbon reduction plan

Aussie Bob — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:30:55 GMT

Polly the Parrot wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:30:55 +0800, "Aussie Bob"
> wrote:
>
>> Australia's biggest telecommunications company Telstra Corporation Ltd,
>> plans to reduce carbon emissions for every dollar earned by at least a tenth
>> over the next six years.
>
> Piss poor Bob Bot.
>
> How about reducing fees instead of some pseudo "science"?

Too bad they didn't try this while Sol was around. I would have suggested he
hold his breath for a month to reduce carbon emissions.

--
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- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
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Optus Profits Up 22% - Channel News New rate changes will be made to Optus Pre-Paid Mobile calling offers which will be effective from 16 December

anon — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:05:18 GMT

anon wrote:
> Optus sent the message below:
>
> As per the SMS message we sent you, new rate changes will be made to Optus
> Pre-Paid Mobile calling offers which will be effective from 16 December
> 2009. There will be rate changes for SMS, MMS, national voice call flagfall
> as well as international flagfall and calling rates.
>
> Please see table below for detailed information on the rate changes.
>
> On selected plans Current Rate New Rate
> National Calls 78c per min No change
> Flagfall 35c 39c

For the main providers, Australian prepaid rates are quite ridiculous.

For example, you could get a *Dutch* Vodafone pre-paid SIM (i.e. with
a Dutch number) and get 48c per minute with a 126c Flagfall, to call an
Australian number from Australia (or from 41 other countries). So for a
3 minute and longer call, you would be better of with such a silly
setup!

[...]

> I've signed up with Revolution Telecom www.revtel.com.au
>
> Calls to local and national numbers: 10c per 30 seconds + 20c flagfall
> Calls to Australian mobile numbers: 10c per 30 seconds + 20c flagfall

That looks much more reasonable. Still a little on the high side, but
not by much. (For me in The Netherlands, 16c per minute, no flagfall but
a 1 minute charge for calls shorter than one minute.)

[...]

mobile choice

jones — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:40:30 GMT

jones wrote...

> Have seen 3 basic phones I like. All do the same basic functions, all the
> same price.
>
> The phones in mind are
>
> Samsung
> Nokia
> Motorola
>
> Does anyone have preferences in brands?

Which models are they? Hard to say that one brand is better than the other, as
each has its own poor performers.

But overall, I'd have to say that Nokia probably is the better one.

But others' experiences may suggest otherwise.

Calling Katherine, but no one's home

Aussie Bob — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:09:53 GMT

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:44:21 GMT, ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:

>
>I gather that "Internet access" and the mobile phone network (3G) died
>throughout most of NQ and FNQ for some hours today when a component
>failed in one of Telstra's major exchanges in Townsville.

Another piece of Telstra news selectively ignored by Bob Bot from Telstra.

Telstra's copper surprise for Conroy

Aussie Bob — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:15:38 GMT

Woggy Blob wrote:
> From
> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/busi...1029-hmif.html
>
> Telstra could have its very own improvised explosive device (IED)
> buried in its copper wires, just waiting for Stormin' Stephen Conroy
> to drive by in his fancy NBN. It's enough to add yet more risk to the
> great unknown of whether anyone would want to invest in the
> minister's back-of-the-envelope $43 billion business plan.
>
> Just as primitive IEDs continue to cause massive grief for the
> world's most advanced military in Iraq and Afghanistan, Telstra's
> old-fashioned copper wires could yet blow a large whole in Conroy's
> fanciful fibre enterprise.
> There's a hint of that tucked away in the dubious document tabled,
> accidentally or not, by Conroy. Never mind what the tabling says
> about the minister's attention to detail or the Australian
> Competition and Consumer Commission's difficulty in dealing with
> valuations, there are a few interesting paragraphs on page 47 that
> seem to confirm speculation that access costs to Stormin' Stephen's
> fibre network while be vastly more expensive than the present network.
>
> Wouldn't it be funny if the Government plunged $43 billion on a
> network only to find that a great many customers were happy to
> download their pirated movies a little less quickly when it's at a
> much cheaper cost.
> The paragraphs in question canvas the ACCC's view of linking access
> prices to the depreciated values of the assets. The ACCC claims the
> historic cost of the fixed common access network (CAN) is about $17
> billion while its net value is about $8 billion.
>
> "It appears that around 58 per cent of the historic value of copper
> cables has been depreciated. In addition, 40 per cent of the value of
> ducts and pipes, 64 per cent of the value of pair gain systems and 72
> per cent of the value of radio bearer equipment have been
> depreciated," the ACCC report says.
>
> "Linking access prices to depreciated asset values may create
> concerns over large jumps in prices when assets are actually
> replaced. For example, assume that an asset cost $100 to build, has a
> useful life of ten years, has been depreciated on a straight line
> basis over this period, and its replacement cost is not changing.
>
> "In the last year of the asset's life, the access price would be
> based on a net (depreciated) value of $10. In the following year when
> that asset is replaced, the access price would be based on a gross
> (yet to be depreciated) value of $100.
>
> "There may therefore be a large and sudden increase in access prices."
>
> In other words, the regulator would set a much lower access price for
> the depreciated copper assets than the fancy, expensive and
> un-depreciated new fibre network.
>
> Just how much is that promised faster download worth to the average
> domestic consumer at a time when other utility charges will be
> soaring as the carbon charge starts to bite?
>
> Dodgy, untested business case
>
> No wonder Conroy is bending, if not breaking, Australia's usual
> precepts of private property rights as he seeks to bludgeon Telstra
> into submission. He has a dodgy, un-tested business case for the Rudd
> Government's biggest infrastructure spend and the last thing he wants
> is competition. Ironic, isn't it?
>
> If I remember my high school economics text book, there was a
> simplistic definition of communism being when the state owns and
> controls the factors of production, while socialism is when the state
> controls the factors of production. Conroy's attempt at de facto
> nationalisation of the Telstra network takes his ALP left faction an
> ugly step closer to some of the efforts of tin-pot South American
> regimes.
> In dealing with this unprincipled method of ramming through the
> minister's pet project, Telstra has the option of giving the bully
> what he claims to want - real separation - but doing it in such a way
> that the network company is in effect a powerful IED that can extract
> fair compensation from the Government.
>
> Completely splitting Telstra - distributing the hived-off company as
> pro-rata shares to existing Telstra shareholders - could leave
> Wireless Telstra free to do what it has been doing best without any
> ramifications from the competitive tension Wired Telstra could create
> with expensive NBN.
> That might be the only way to escape the commercial blackmail
> presently being applied by the Federal Government. It would certainly
> make any institution or individual think twice about putting their
> money behind Conroy's envelope.
>
> And that's already going to be a hard sell. The only thing we know
> for sure about future communications technology is that it won't be
> what we presently expect.
>
> Michael Pascoe is a BusinessDay contributing editor.

And has never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.

Re: Will you be 'effected'..?

Horry — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:03:09 GMT

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:06:54 +0000, Superman wrote:

> Virgin mobile sent me a letter saying (in part) that they have ".. two
> new charges coming into affect" from 1st. Dec. Isn't our education
> system just wonderful!

Relevance to aus.tv?

a question for Sylvia Else - your vas deferens

I love youz all — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:35:50 GMT

How's that again, spammer??
"I love youz all" wrote in message
news:7lhndaF3b6aunU1@mid.individual.net...
> What's your vas deferens like?
> Is it better than mine?
>

Telstra drops bill payment fee

Core2Duo — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:30:46 GMT

Polly the Parrot wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:16:16 +0800, "Aussie Bob"
> wrote:
>
>> "Polly the Parrot" wrote in message
>> news:r5p2f5tovsdm34u1tr246tmlbeotncuo32@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:30:46 GMT, "Core2Duo"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Telstra has admitted it was wrong to charge a $2.20 administration fee to
>>>> customers who wanted to pay their bills by post or over-the-counter.
>>> Strange? How come Bob Bot is not making this admission on behalf of
>>> Tel$tra?
>> Optus charge $2.20 to get a paper bill..
>
> That only applies to pelicans.

Do they put it on the bill?

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

Broadly speaking, 100 megabits a second may not help us

Aussie Bob — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:50:21 GMT

In article <4vi7f5l20nvamh6fev4u37a9anp1ipe1ej@4ax.com>, Bob Bain <++@tpg.com.au> wrote:
[snip]
>
>The analyst also indicated the New Zealand and Dutch governments were
>actively investigating the NBN ...

I hope they find the scam before we're saddled with the cost of it!

Cheers, Phred.

--
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID

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Newbie to mobiles

jones — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:12:44 GMT

jones wrote:

> Just asking if anyone has or knows about

> Samsung E1080T

> I am of the older generation, and am looking for something basic for the odd phone call and text messages.

> The model above comes with Optus prepaid. As I have never had a mobile before, so any help would greatly be
> appreciated.

> How would I go about getting a phone number for it?

You get the number automatically when you buy the phone.

Competition is gouging phone users

Aussie Bob — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:28:25 GMT

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:36:37 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
<""noujwas\"@yahoo.com ."> wrote:

>Polly the Parrot wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:28:25 +0800, "Aussie Bob"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> WE MUST be mad.
>>
>> Hey Bob Bot.
>>
>> Is that the Royal "we"?
>
>Dunno. Is a royal wee followed by a royal flush?

Flush Bob Bot away, that's for sure!

Telstra to strike National Broadband Network ~deal by Christmas

Aussie Bob — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:47:47 GMT

Phil,
you and Sol created the situation with your 'attitude'