ADSL and static IPs

Slightly off topic, but I see that ISP Orcon provides static IPs with the new Jetstream Surf accounts. Not only that, but they promote the use of servers by the customer.
Whereas Xtra still "now you see it - now you don't" with IPs (and probably still forbid servers - I have trouble tracking down their terms of use). 8O

most ISP's do offer static IP's.. just at an extra charge (25-30 bucks usually IIRC)

I could be wrong but I believe my NZWireless.co.nz connection bounces through Orcon, hence why I have a static IP... might just be a limitation/byproduct of design of Orcon's setup that they've touted as a 'feature'

Hi there Whetu, Reading your post.. and i take it that u have Nzwireless.co.nz as your isp?

Question : Are you runing on the new Gasp Plan?

And would ya be able to tell me much about there service...eg pings for any games that u might play on line...

And anything else, Quality of Service... ??

Looking forward to ya comments

I take it they are broadcasting from the sky tower only?

Wookie

Sure thing. I am indeed on GASP flatrate and loving it.

I abhore the idea of data caps and hidden contractural fees (take a bow Telstra you pack of <insert obscenity of your choosing>) It's a long story about my transition from DSL to wireless. I found out about NZW through word of mouth (I have a mate who is an Admin for the TAB and he has a mate over in Eastbourne, Wellington who is on NZW because NZW is the only real broadband solution over there, so NZW cornered that little market more or less) So through a mate of a mate

At the moment it looks like the guys at NZW are run off their feet with rollouts in Auckland etc and handling the demand, however, I've got nothing but top notch service from Chris Aspros. Even though he is a busy bloke he usually replies to me within 5-6 hours. The only ISP service I would deem better than NZW is that of InSPire's, and they'd be really hard to topple. Being with InSPire made leaving DSL a hard decision to be honest... Ihug used to be good customer service wise too.. but since their buyout I reckon they've slipped a bit.

Pingswise.. I get a solid ping, usually in the 20-25 range depending on the day/alignment of the planets to the xtra BF1942 classic servers. That's the only game I've really played so far, I had a blat of UT2k4 demo and that ran fine.. no lagging or anything... and the funny thing.. I havent finished setting up the connection! My antenna is aiming sorta general direction until I can get my paws on a laptop and tune it in properly...

*nb. myself or NZW do not guarantee that you'll get the same kind of service quality if you DIY

Setup costs - checking your place for connectivity is free
Setting up your place is about 150 bucks (you can DIY like I did though and skip this fee)
19dBi antenna might be upwards of 80-100 bucks (I dont know what price they supply the antenna's to their customers, and I wont say how much I got mine off them for but expect no less than 60 bucks) and I believe they supply 200mW bridges for about 200 bucks
Normal pcmcia/pci cards can be anywhere between 70 bucks to 200 bucks + pigtail (~60 bucks)

I was told that they port shaped FTP traffic to 32k and this may well be true but I was pulling a good 85k solid on JSG2 to get a BF1942 update...
They do however reserve the right to port shape.

They also give 15 days advanced notice before an IP change.

I think that about covers your questions.. if you've got any more feel free to pick my brain

Nope, I believe they are also broadcasting from another location in Auckland... does glendene ring a bell? I'll get back with an edit soon

I'm in the Hutt Valley and there are two access points for me to choose from, I'm not too clued up on their network in Wellington major though..

/edit: it rules to be right
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2830019a28,00.html

Just might have to drop them an email!!!


Wookie

Hey whetu, I wouldn't suppose I could bother you to post a few tracerts to a few addresses for me?

www.ipgn.com.au
www.gamearena.com.au
www.paradise.net.nz

Cheers

I'd have to say that although they might be relying on word of mouth, they should improve their page... For example, on my original visit I didn't find out anything about GASP until I realised you had to click the link on the main page... Even then altho it offers info it doesn't mention where their transmitters are, you have to ask them I suppose or read the news article they link to... I know some people will just skip it if they don't seem to have any decent info on their page.

However, I do remember receiving a flyer a few months ago in Henderson about some company using Wifi to offer internet access. Anyone know if this was them?

I agree that their site does need to be a bit more informative.. I could offer to Chris to give him a hand in that regard (chopping up maps, faq's etc)

Sinturion, ICMP traffic has a low priority on the network for security reasons so ping results probably wouldnt be comparable to real-world usage. Dont forget that I did also mention that my connection is not completely setup...

BUT

I did do some pinging for an american friend who lives not far from me, that was to activision.com and I got an average ping of 180ms. Worst result I got was 259ms. So you can see my connection is at times inconsistent still. This is probably not NZW's fault, as I say *I* have not completed setting up the connection. It may however be their problem because I also mentioned their AP had been struck by lightning and was being problematic.. go figure

Long story short I may or may not get back to you with some results when I've got the connection completely knuckled down. I can still ping those sites for you if you like but just be aware of the current conditions...

FYI Here at work on citylink fibre, I get the following:
H:>ping -n 25 www.activision.com

Pinging www.activision.com [63.146.124.34] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238
Reply from 63.146.124.34: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=238

Ping statistics for 63.146.124.34:
Packets: Sent = 25, Received = 25, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 157ms, Maximum = 172ms, Average = 158ms

(yes, I still get solid pings in bf1942 given said connection status)

far out - NZW looks like a really interesting business...

ohhhh tracerts sinturion... *slaps head* must learn to control my skim reading. Remember to be aware of my connection being sub par at present

C:awopbopaloobopnoneofyourbusiness>tracert www.ipgn.com.au

Tracing route to www.ipgn.com.au [210.50.4.9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms more none of your business
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms once again none of your business
3 20 ms 20 ms 10 ms gonzo.nzwireless.co.nz [210.54.151.1]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 20 ms 50 ms 70 ms ge-international-core.nct.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.242]
7 40 ms * 50 ms a4-0-0-22.akbr1.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.119.197]
8 70 ms 50 ms 40 ms ge-0-3-0-6.akbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.246.18]
9 211 ms 290 ms 270 ms p1-7.sybr2.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.245.58]
10 160 ms 130 ms 60 ms 203.96.120.142
11 70 ms 60 ms 70 ms gigabitethernet5-0-0.bdr2.hay.connect.com.au [210.9.191.109]
12 70 ms 80 ms 60 ms pri140908-1.gw.connect.com.au [203.8.183.78]
13 100 ms 60 ms 100 ms vlan43.sw02.syd.iprimus.net.au [203.134.2.177]
14 81 ms 90 ms 60 ms ge-0-1.ic02.syd.iprimus.net.au [203.134.67.151]
15 70 ms 81 ms 80 ms s2-0.ic02.mel.iprimus.net.au [203.134.2.66]
16 150 ms 80 ms 81 ms 203.134.123.67
17 100 ms 80 ms 90 ms ge1-2.sw02.mel.idc.iprimus.net.au [210.50.0.22]
18 81 ms * 130 ms ftp.ipgn.com.au [210.50.4.9]

Trace complete.

C:awopbamboom>tracert www.gamearena.com.au

Tracing route to gamearena.com.au [144.135.23.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms digital squirrels are in your network
2 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms they are stealing packets and storing them for winter
3 20 ms 10 ms * gonzo.nzwireless.co.nz [210.54.151.1]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 20 ms 20 ms 70 ms ge-international-core.nct.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.242]
7 60 ms 50 ms 51 ms a4-0-0-22.akbr1.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.119.197]
8 40 ms 40 ms 30 ms ge-0-3-0-6.akbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.246.18]
9 281 ms 430 ms 351 ms p1-7.sybr2.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.245.58]
10 110 ms 301 ms 250 ms 203.96.120.142
11 91 ms 140 ms * pos3-0-3.bdr3.hay.connect.com.au [210.8.219.174]
12 70 ms 60 ms 50 ms POS2-0.ken22.Sydney.telstra.net [139.130.4.249]
13 50 ms 60 ms 70 ms GigabitEthernet10-0.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.20.1]
14 80 ms 60 ms 71 ms GigabitEthernet1-1.pit1.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.13.2]
15 50 ms 60 ms 90 ms pitt13-colo-r01 [139.130.193.254]
16 70 ms * 121 ms 144.135.23.52

Trace complete.

C:sowhataboutthemwarriors?>tracert www.paradise.net.nz

Tracing route to www.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.127]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms colonoscopy
2 10 ms <10 ms 10 ms urine trouble
3 21 ms 10 ms 10 ms gonzo.nzwireless.co.nz [210.54.151.1]
4 40 ms 20 ms 50 ms telstraclear1.wix.net.nz [202.7.0.70]
5 40 ms * 50 ms fa7-4-1042.bertha.tce.telstraclear.net [203.98.23.42]
6 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms www.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.127]

Trace complete.

heh, cheers for that.

Getting my site survey done on thursday

Where abouts r u in the waitakeres ?

As I am looking @ getting Wireless as well though NZW.co.nz

Cheers

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Western heights, just off Sturges road.

I'll let you know how things go if you like.

How did the site survey go ?

Cheers

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[PzC]

I hear that the static IP's being given out are 222.* IP addresses, and apparently some people are having problems with 222.* addresses being baned from various places around the net. mmm

No go for me :cry:

They couldn't get a strong enough signal to meet their minimal signal requirements. The problem is that I'm right next to a reserve with large dense trees :x

One word: Chainsaw

heh, I'm constructing a ninja suit as we speak.

How much did it cost u for the site survey ?
Did Chris do it ?
What did they do ? (Netstumbler with a 19dbi Para and 200mw bridge) ?

Cheers

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Major Havoc
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[PzC]

The survey cost me a grand total of $0.

Yeah, Chris came around with another guy (I'm unsure of his name) - both good blokes.

19dbi para and a 200mw pcmcia card. I'm unsure of what software they used.

netstumbler was what they used when they did my site survey

..it could just be me but I can't seem to find anything on their website saying that :?

I'm looking at http://www.orcon.net.nz/products/jetstream/jetsurf/

Interesting... they have changed the wording in the last week or so - wonder if it is anything to do with the rarking up I gave xtra over their dynamic IPs vs Orcon's 'free' static IPs .

Found an older cached version of Orcon's Jetsurf page on searchnz:

<quote>

Free static IP
With JetStream Surf, 256K and full rate plans, your connections IP address never changes. This gives you the opportunity to host a server on your JetStream connection amongst other Internet applications. NOTE: JetStream connections are not appropriate to host business critical servers as there are no service level guarantees.

</quote>

and just as I thought it is fairly common knowledge that Telecom wont let ISPs do it, they strip the framed-ip-address radius parameters

they are broadcasting from the skytower, and glendene..

way to read the thread! :roll:

Hi All I'm new here and know very little (ok nothing) about wireless. But I do desperately need a fast connection as I am really suffering on my dial up.

Telecon has told me to go knocking on doors to get a list of interested people.(As i obviously have far to much time on my hands, what with my fulltime job & supporting my family). :evil:

A friend just brought around he's Woosh modem to test at my house. Got no signal at all...so i don't know how much improvement a booster will give...

Anyway, I have done some searching and came across GASP from NZWireless.co.nz or www.gasp.co.nz. It sounds very good and the response I got with pricing and details also appears very good.

Thanks for you enquiry on our website.

Yes we are available in Henderson.

GASP is a new broadband internet service that offers great speed, requires no dial up and has a huge monthly allowance of 1.5GB Int/ 10GB Nat all for the great price of $40 a month.

Our basic residential plan is $70/month for a 256kbps international, 3mbits national, flat rate connection. This plan includes a static IP address.
The wireless equipment required is $250, with an install fee of $150.

All prices exc. GST.

We will need to schedule a complimentary site survey to confirm coverage for you. Please let me know which day would suit you best.

I hope that helps, and please don't hesitate to contact me if I can be of any more assistance.

I will be contacting them soon to arrange a site survey although I'm not holding out to much hope...I don't live that far from sturges Rd and I also have LARGE trees in my Neighbours garden. I live towards the end of Woodford Ave, off Lincoln Rd (Which is in a bit of a dip near the creek).

Anyway, anyone know what speed you get on the basic $40 plan, also keen to know upload speeds for both plans.

I'll post the result of the site survey as soon as I have it done..hope they do weekends.