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Old 06-02-2004, 03:09 AM
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Wrong, wired country is a layer2 service, not pppoe.. Its up to the retail service provider to decide how they deliver over it, weather it be pppoe, or straight ethernet..


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not that it would matter, as all NZers still have to go through the 'global-gateway.co.nz' which is where the bottle neck is.
You're right, it's impossible for your ping to the US to be better then a certain limit (which I can't be bothered working out) due to physical limitations (the speed of light) and even this will never be achieved... However, it is still easily possible to have worse latency then one would expect. One previous poster has suggested ICONZ has bad international latency but this is unconfirmed. Also, jb's US ping is average 247ms for JS Starter and since JS Starter average national ping is about 40ms or so, this cannot be solely accounted due to difference between ADSL and Wired Country's wireless but must be something further long the link...

Also, if I'm not mistaken 1500 is the default MTU so it isn't really a tweak as such, just fixing what was done before *grin*

BTW, are you sure 1500 is the best for your connection? From what I read, 1492 (or lower) is better for PPPoE connections which I believe Wired Country is
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Old 06-09-2004, 02:47 AM
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oh thank you god for wired country and the abolishment of the telecom reign.

that aside ... just got my 2mbit sorted today .. heading home tonight to get me some low ping wireless lovin ...

GG Wired Country
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Default Moving house...

I am about to move house - and take my Wired Country connection with me. My new place is a lot closer to the 'transmitter', so it will be interesting to see if being closer gives me increased speed and/or reduced latency.
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Old 06-09-2004, 11:18 AM
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Is it true that the frequency used is around 3.5GHz? I have been reluctant to purchase a new 2.4GHz cordless phone in fear that it might interfere.
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Old 06-09-2004, 02:00 PM
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[quote="spazrat"]Wrong, wired country is a layer2 service, not pppoe.. Its up to the retail service provider to decide how they deliver over it, weather it be pppoe, or straight ethernet..

You're right but Ihug does use PPPoE I believe
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Old 06-09-2004, 02:08 PM
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I am about to move house - and take my Wired Country connection with me. My new place is a lot closer to the 'transmitter', so it will be interesting to see if being closer gives me increased speed and/or reduced latency.
Doubt it. Are you achieving your maximum speed? Since your have a speed capped connection (I assume), if you are then you won't get any more speed. If you weren't you should have complained...

Strongly suspect latency won't improve either. You signal is probably not being reflected or anything so it's direct. Therefore your latency will largely be due to the modems etc not the time it takes the signal to reach it's destination.

However signal strength will probably improve so you might be able to have higher speed if it wasn't speed capped and will probably get less problems due to heavy weather, if you had any in the first place.

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Is it true that the frequency used is around 3.5GHz? I have been reluctant to purchase a new 2.4GHz cordless phone in fear that it might interfere.
I'm pretty sure it is. This is the frequency they have the license for and it's also the frequency used by the equipement they use according to use reports and their press release

http://www.wiredcountry.co.nz/press_10.html
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Old 06-09-2004, 02:17 PM
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For those of you like me who aren't in the coverage area in Auckland, I have some potentially good news. After reading the Woosh thread and the article and looking at the Probe homepage, I realised the deadline when suppliers are supposed to connect all school by the end of 2004. Although the Auckland contract was awarded a bit late, I assume they're still supposed to meet the deadline. Therefore, they should have covered all schools in Auckland by the end of the year... So hopefully we've only got 6 months to wait at the most

Or not. Rereading the Woosh article I realised altho the Auckland supplier has been announced, the contract has not been finalised... Also, I think only 70 (rural) schools are on the list since the rest can get JetStream etc so in they might concentrate on these not us who already have access to broadband even if it's only Telecom's so called broadband
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Old 06-09-2004, 11:41 PM
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For those of you like me who aren't in the coverage area in Auckland, I have some potentially good news. After reading the Woosh thread and the article and looking at the Probe homepage, I realised the deadline when suppliers are supposed to connect all school by the end of 2004. Although the Auckland contract was awarded a bit late, I assume they're still supposed to meet the deadline. Therefore, they should have covered all schools in Auckland by the end of the year... So hopefully we've only got 6 months to wait at the most

Or not. Rereading the Woosh article I realised altho the Auckland supplier has been announced, the contract has not been finalised... Also, I think only 70 (rural) schools are on the list since the rest can get JetStream etc so in they might concentrate on these not us who already have access to broadband even if it's only Telecom's so called broadband
Nil_Einne sometimes the glass is half full!
If I recall correctly you are somewhere up West Harbour way ... so are Sunnyvale, West Harbour and Marina View schools. They are on the PROBE list.
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Old 06-16-2004, 08:33 AM
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The Lincoln area actually so somewhere in between Sunnyvale and Marina View so hopefully something covering Probe will cover me too :-)
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Old 06-25-2004, 01:38 AM
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Hey, this is probably a new topic, but...
Does anyone else find with Ihug Wireless Country that the connection terminates ever hour an half or so. After it has stopped, the PC can try to reconnect 500+ times with no success, but if I unplug the IDU Network Interface Adapter for a second and then retry it reconnects within seconds.
Thought I might check with the community first before querying ihug on the issue. It's damn annoying when your waiting for a file to download or online gaming.
Thanks for the feedback.
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Old 06-25-2004, 04:33 AM
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Sounds most unusual. You should really be contacting iHug, IMHO.
Good luck
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Old 06-25-2004, 06:19 AM
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Mine has been up for 11 days straight 24x7, connected to my IPCop
firewall. You need to talk to Ihug about your suituation.
Maybe faulty hardware???
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:10 PM
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Mine has been up for 11 days straight 24x7, connected to my IPCop firewall.
So it does actually go down? How have you found it in very heavy rain? I'm quite interested in getting WC, but I'm a bit skeptical about how well it performs in general and in bad weather.

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Old 06-28-2004, 12:24 PM
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Never gone down on its own, It has always been me turning it off.

No issues with rain "fade", and I made a point to try it during some of
the worst weather over the last week.

IP address has only changed when I have dropped the connection.
It has never been "forced" to change while it is up.

Throughput is as advertised for 1 Meg plan.

It's the best thing i've ever done as far as net access is concerned.
I'm sure you will feel the same way.

I am 6kms away from the skytower with perfect LOS

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sdmcc/officev...antennaview.jpg
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:50 PM
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Thanks for your help. I'm about 10km out, and the current WC map puts me just outside the red line. However I have perfect LoS to the sky tower. Just one more thing I need to ask - how does WC perform in fog?

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Old 06-28-2004, 01:13 PM
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Can't say for sure, we have had a bit of that in the city over the last
month or so, and I can only say that the link has not dropped.
Whether it stops working or slows down, I don't know........

For me it is better than Jetstart by miles, esp since I have a dynamic dns
setup so I can get into my home network from work.
Sometimes Jetstart changed its' IP addy at the most inopportune times...
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Old 06-29-2004, 08:04 AM
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Thanks for your help. I'm about 10km out, and the current WC map puts me just outside the red line. However I have perfect LoS to the sky tower. Just one more thing I need to ask - how does WC perform in fog?

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Fog and rain have no discernible effect less than 1 db on a test path at Pukehoke (including a period of 5.1 mm/minute downpour!)

Well worth a go.
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Old 07-26-2004, 12:55 PM
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Any news on when we can expect further roll out or whatever? I've noticed WC appear to be having problems, especially with their west antennas based on the MOTD at Ihug.

Also, what's the sign up like. I'm wondering especially since there has been little promotion by any of the ISPs
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:29 AM
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yea they had slight problems with the western transmitter a few weeks ago. supposidly, the uptake in the west was 6x higher than what they anticipated...(so I read at nzgames forums)
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Old 09-18-2004, 06:09 AM
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Default Wired Country in West Auckland

Does anyone here live in any west auckland areas such Massey, Hobsonville or West Harbour? If you do and you have Wired Country Wireless, do you get a decent speed? I am planning on getting it but want to know what the speed is like in west auckland areas.

Jeffrey
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Old 09-19-2004, 01:27 PM
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As has been discussed before, if you can get service, there should be no problem in reaching advertised speeds. The question is can you get service. As I've also mentioned, I live in the Lincoln Road area and cannot get service because the tower is too far (signal is not strong enough). I have a clear LOS. Therefore, I highly doubt you will be able to get service although your welcome to try of course.
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Old 09-21-2004, 05:08 AM
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I heard recently that packet queuing has been implemented, not sure whether this is at the wired country or isp level. Anyone with multiple computers using wired country notice a difference?
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Old 09-21-2004, 05:53 AM
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Sorry to ask, but what difference should I be seeing?

I run 5 PC's behind an IPCop firewall connected to Ihug through
WC from the Skytower.
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If I am not mistaken, it's a layer 2 service and the ISP controls the QOS. Therefore it's probably at the ISP level and depends on the ISP. I suspect ICONZ/Ezysurf must have done this since they've also instituted P2P limiting but don't know about the other ISPs...

I don't think it really matters how many computers are using WC. What does matter is how much of the connection are you using
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Old 09-21-2004, 09:04 AM
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Increased latancy and pings when multiple machines are using the connection, say one person is browsing and downloading whilst the other is gaming.

Packet queuing is a real killer on 128k and 256k DSL. I'd hate to see it happen across the board for Wired Country, but indeed it sounds like an ISP thing.
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Old 09-21-2004, 09:11 AM
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I have no problems like that at all.

I can run several downloads and do some gaming
with no ill effects.

1Meg link through Ihug.
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Old 09-21-2004, 10:23 AM
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I repeat, it doesn't matter how many computers are involved. If you don't believe me, try running several fast download in the background of 1 computer while playing a game.

For that matter, if the other computers are carefully controlling/throtteling their speeds, it will only have minimal effects. (this can also be done at a later point)

Also packet queing can be implemented to have minimal effects on gaming latency with proper and smart QOS management. Telecom is probably not a good example of packet queing...
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:14 PM
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packet queuing should have very little effect, in Telecom's case they just havent bothered hiring someone competent enough to properly configure their juniper gear, it's the same reason UBS has been delayed. The equipment is capable, it's just not setup right.

Telstra, not to be outdone, has had problems on their IPNet for the better part of a month now and have pissfarted around for the last week trying to figure it out.

If these two are the best we can dig up to be our telco's, then I'm sad to say that we're f-cked.

Roll on nationwide wireless (not BCL) with VoIP I say. If you want something done right, do it yourself :roll:
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Old 09-21-2004, 09:53 PM
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Hi Folks
I've Recently moved from Xtra Jetstart (128K) to WC 256K with Ihug as the ISP.
I wasn't happy with my resultant speed , so I did some tests before I terminated my adsl connection.
a Snapshot of the Results are Here >>http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~bbbits/ethereal.htm

I've Done some more tests to a few other speedtest sites recently.
Testsed each 3 Times.
http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/speedtest Results -- 193 , 207 , 193
http://www.jetstreamgames.co.nz/speed Results -- 166 , 179 , 204

When doing normal downloads , >1M my resultant connection is never any better than 196K .
I would be interested to get some test results from other WC users soas I can make a comparison between ISP's Bandwidth limiting methods.

Can anyone help me out here ?
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Old 10-01-2004, 10:52 AM
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Does anyone here live in any west auckland areas such Massey, Hobsonville or West Harbour? If you do and you have Wired Country Wireless, do you get a decent speed? I am planning on getting it but want to know what the speed is like in west auckland areas.

Jeffrey
I'm in Hobsonville and have perfect LoS to the skytower, however when the WC guys came out, they couldn't get a signal :roll:
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