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Old 02-14-2004, 07:37 AM
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Default Wired country

Has anyone here try ICONZ's wired country plans - http://www.iconz.co.nz/products/gamers/ico...onz_gamers.html
and are they any good (The price is much lower than any other broadband so I am wondering if it is slow or something) ?
I am thinking about getting the unlimited 256k plan - the same price as my current jetstart yet 2x the speed
Also what latency can I expect with wired country? I currently get about 45ms to a local server on jetstart.
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Old 02-14-2004, 07:59 AM
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Hi,

im on wired country the service it pretty good i am at the moment using the 128k plan it is slightly better than ADSL as for the pings i was getting under 70 for ET where as on ADSL i get 90-120
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Old 02-14-2004, 08:00 AM
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What ISP are you using?
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:13 AM
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Old 02-16-2004, 09:32 PM
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I have a Wired Country fibre connection at home from TelstraClear ... it is very fast! I'm haven't used it for games.
I use ICONZ at work - it works too.
I noticed that some star gamer in Hamilton is using a wireless Wired Country connection to Wave. See the HamWireless forums. His clan just won some big event in Aussie (my ignorance is really starting to show now) so it was obviously fast enough to make up for the delay across the ditch!
Hope this helps.
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Old 02-17-2004, 04:25 AM
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@Tide: How good are international transfers? (browsing, downloading etc) I emailed ICONZ and they replied that
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...the speed will be reduced
internationally due to a shared international pipe...
I have also heard that they have bad international latency. Wave is supposedly good, but I do not know if their plans include national transfers.
@NeilS: I did not know that telstra offered service over wired country. Do you know if it is possible to connect with them over wireless? There is nothing about it on their site.
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Old 02-18-2004, 04:39 AM
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Daviddl, it isn't what you know ...

There are a number of people testing services on Wired Country who aren't actively marketing them. Sometimes you just have to ask the retailer (and/or be lucky :wink: ) if you want a specific voice or ISP service.
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Old 02-18-2004, 04:48 AM
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Ok. thanks for that info. I have decided to get one of the new ihug plans: http://www.ihug.co.nz/wireless/index.html
They look pretty good value.
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Flat Priced 1000kbps
FREE National data
Up to 2000MB of Peak International data
Up to 8000MB of Off-Peak International data
Thereafter, unlimited data at dial up speed.
I just hope i can get it as there are alot of trees around my place which may disrupt the signal.
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:54 PM
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<shameless plug>

The Wave wired country connections aren't shaped - you'll get a real broadband connection through them. Ping times to NZ games servers are typically 20-30ms. Look for free national traffic plans in the coming weeks.

</shameless plug>
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Old 02-19-2004, 04:05 AM
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So 256k is really about 5mbit? :P
Are you sure this is not just the 10x speed deal that wired country are offering until march?
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Old 02-19-2004, 05:11 AM
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You're locked down to your plan's speed (256Kb, 1Mb etc) in the radio gear itself so theres no way to go faster than that (but yep they're all upped at the moment as part of that promotion).
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Old 02-19-2004, 08:34 PM
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You're locked down to your plan's speed (256Kb, 1Mb etc) in the radio gear itself so theres no way to go faster than that (but yep they're all upped at the moment as part of that promotion).
Well there is one way ... buy a faster plan!
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Old 03-17-2004, 08:16 AM
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I'm testing it out at the moment....
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Will they be on the north shore anytime soon?
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Old 03-27-2004, 02:59 AM
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I'm getting it next week from Ihug. I'm on the Shore, getting it off the Skytower. You have to have a direct LOS with the skytower...I'm in northcote point so its not a problem.
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Old 03-27-2004, 08:01 AM
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As per the current Media,
there is a 60 degree wide sector pointing due north available and also another 60 degree sector pointing due south.
Range 15kms but need direct LOS to the wide black band of the skytower about 5 floors below the main viewing platform.
As for the other 240 degrees of coverage, the media says 4 weeks, but this may not be the case. Stay informed with the papers for more information.
I get 11ms pings when under no load!!!!

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Old 03-27-2004, 08:33 AM
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As per the current Media,
there is a 60 degree wide sector pointing due north available and also another 60 degree sector pointing due south.
Range 15kms but need direct LOS to the wide black band of the skytower about 5 floors below the main viewing platform.
As for the other 240 degrees of coverage, the media says 4 weeks, but this may not be the case. Stay informed with the papers for more information.
I get 11ms pings when under no load!!!!

-John
Once again the Westies wait

Might hold off joining nzwireless.co.nz... as this ihug looks like a better deal as the moment

Where on the website does it say that is available if you have LOS to the Sky Tower ? The web site only has a small area out south where it is available.

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Old 03-27-2004, 10:36 PM
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Its still in testing phase at the moment off the skytower. Wired country have advised ISPs that they can start selling connections onto the North and South sectors but it appears that the ISPs are waiting until the full 360 is available.

I'm telling you right now, the North and South sectors are available with the same plans as available in Pukekohe. The rest of the tower is still yet to be installed - just hang tight and soon enough it will be all over the papers.

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Old 03-28-2004, 08:21 AM
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Its still in testing phase at the moment off the skytower. Wired country have advised ISPs that they can start selling connections onto the North and South sectors but it appears that the ISPs are waiting until the full 360 is available.
Are you involved in the project ?
There (Ihugs) prices are very competitive...
What other ISPs are involved ?

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Old 03-28-2004, 08:37 AM
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>Are you involved in the project ?
Yes

>There (Ihugs) prices are very competitive...
I know

>What other ISPs are involved ?
In no particular order...
ihug, pcconnect, dts, ezysurf, watchdog, ihug, wave, packingshed, iconz and ihug
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:17 PM
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Default Once again the Westies wait :(

Major Havoc, things might be looking up. I understand the kit for the other 240 degrees on the Skytower arrived over the weekend. 8)

The LOS comments are true at present. 3.5 GHz doesn't bend well! If you can't see the dark layer under the Skytower restaurant ... you'll be waiting 'til the PROBE roll-out later in the year.

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Old 04-11-2004, 07:41 PM
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Where do you get you info? :grin:

I knew they had installed North and South antenna in around Feb and were supposed to be doing the rest from Paul's Compuworld article but didn't know the ISPs were offering (unofficially) and was waiting desperately for news on the west pointing antennaS..... Now you say it arrived about 2 weeks ago. Any news on whether it's been installed and more importantly, when ISPs will be given the go ahead to start selling surface? After having been burnt by Ihug Ultra last month when I went 400mb over my limit, I'm getting even more desperate....... Can't wait until it's offered.

I'll be going Ihug too probably. The ICONZ/EzySurf packages are also okay but as some mentioned, it's a shared international pipe and costs a bit. BTW, Wave does offer free national but IMHO, they still don't come close to Ihug.

The only thing I'm worried about is I might be too far from Sky Tower...... I've never really looked on the roof but I've been told there Sky Tower is in LOS so I'm assuming that part is okay.

Any indication on what TelstraClear's plans are likely to be? I assume they will stick with their standard 1/10 ratio for national rather then having free tho...
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The only thing I'm worried about is I might be too far from Sky Tower...... I've never really looked on the roof but I've been told there Sky Tower is in LOS so I'm assuming that part is okay.
I live in Glendene, not far from you and will be able to get the signal. You will definitely hear about it when the isps are ready to sell....
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Old 04-12-2004, 05:54 AM
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Ihug has sent me an application form.. I am about 15kms out...
They reckon it will work (sales department). But won't start until I pay the install and first months fee first. And if it doesn't work then they will refund me. I am still thinking about nzwireless.co.nz as well.. mainly for a fixed IP !! Ihug said its an extra $20 a month for a fixed IP. Gutted !!

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Old 04-12-2004, 06:11 AM
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Yepee! :-)

Do hope it's ready before next month. Due the the cost of my Ultra, I will have to wait for the end of the month before changing.

BTW, where can I get info on nzwireless.co.nz services? I'm probably not interested but just wanted to have a look. Their page only sems to mentioned Wellington stuff...

P.S. From the WC page, when they come to install your service, they are supposed to make sure you have LOS (and I assume a strong enough signal) and you don't pay anything if not... I suppose paying and then refunding come down to the same thing provided they refund you without any hassle.
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Old 04-12-2004, 06:18 AM
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Yepee! :-)
P.S. From the WC page, when they come to install your service, they are supposed to make sure you have LOS (and I assume a strong enough signal) and you don't pay anything if not... I suppose paying and then refunding come down to the same thing provided they refund you without any hassle.
I am not too sure how other ISPs do this, but ihug will not charge anything until the site survey is completed and it is confirmed that you can get a connection.
I think the fee is $99 which is an install/site survey fee - if you decide not to have it installed, but can get the service, you will still be charged the $99.
Note that if you get data connected and then later on decided to have a phone connection too, you would have the pay the $99 install fee again for them to come out a second time and connect up your phone and disconnect the Telecom copper.

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The install fee is actually $99.95
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Note that if you get data connected and then later on decided to have a phone connection too, you would have the pay the $99 install fee again for them to come out a second time and connect up your phone and disconnect the Telescum copper.
Hmm, better not rush then...

I know the telephone service is in testing but is it likely to be available as soon as the data services are offered? Any idea on what the plans are going to be like? A internet+phone bundle would have to be considerably cheaper then ihug internet+Telecom phone for it to be worthwhile though since I'm on TVLine so I will have to go back to normal Sky startup if I end my Telecom service. My effective line rental in this case is only $31.55... Especially since there is still no number portality :-(:-(

Major Burns, you in Swanson so I assume the service will be coming from one of the west antennas?
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I know the telephone service is in testing but is it likely to be available as soon as the data services are offered? Any idea on what the plans are going to be like? A internet+phone bundle would have to be considerably cheaper then ihug internet+Telecom phone for it to be worthwhile though since I'm on TVLine so I will have to go back to normal Sky startup if I end my Telecom service. My effective line rental in this case is only $31.55... Especially since there is still no number portality :-(:-(

Major Burns, you in Swanson so I assume the service will be coming from one of the west antennas?
Initially wired country will only be off the skytower, they will add other transmitters as the market demands - The ISPs should have a lot of say in how this will be rolled out.

As for number portability, phone rental, internet access, etc I cannot reveal anything, but everything has been considered and you will find out in due course.
The phone service continues to use the internal phone wiring so your cordless phones will continue to operate over IP.

I am in glendene with a vew of the skytower - note that at this stage wiredcountry is broadcasting from the 'black band' beneath the main viewing platform - you need to have line of sight to this.
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Initially wired country will only be off the skytower, they will add other transmitters as the market demands - The ISPs should have a lot of say in how this will be rolled out.
I know this :-) I meant I assume Major Havoc (sorry not major burns...) is being offered service from one of the west facing antennas that just got installed (i.e. not the north/south ones)
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Old 04-15-2004, 07:21 AM
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I original contacted Ihug about Wired Country mentioning my location on late Mon and received reply on Tues to fill out the online form. Did that and then Wed was told was outside coverage area... Asked them about it and this was the reply...

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For you to have wired country from the sky tower you need line of sight for the tower and be able to see the black belt around the tower to recieve the connection. At the moment they have decided to postpone wired country out west and have delayed it for another month. currently all testing groups are closed

Any idea why it's postponed JB? Assuming this wasn't just a ploy to get rid of me for now... :-)
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