and another day we need to argue about ranges inside the region for single ip users, and block owners
<jvanvelden> So Auckland is given 10.16.0.0 through 10.23.255.255.
<Trvln> no you can use it but I don't like it
<Trvln> I don't use 0 or 255
<jvanvelden> fair enough
<Trvln> the calc thing spat out 255's
<jvanvelden> subnet mask 255.248.0.0 (for any region)
<jvanvelden> Trvln: i can see where your coming from
<jvanvelden> would anyone disagree about auckland having 5 regions?
<jvanvelden> see http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_..._of_New_Zealand
for information on goverment 'regions' for NZ
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<Trvln> no, we'd have to chop the /13 into smaller chunks
<jvanvelden> Trvln: no. no more subdivision can occur without serious problems
<jvanvelden> I would also like to propose that Auckland because of its size in relation to other cities/regions in NZ be considered 3 Regions for Networking purposes.
<jvanvelden> It is vastly more efficient to consider Auckland as 3 cities that subdivide one region further
<Trvln> how come we cant split a /13 more?
<jvanvelden> I propose North Auckland (Rodney District, North Shore City, Waitakere City) Auckland Central (Auckland City), South Auckland (Manukau City, Papakura District, Franklin District)
<jvanvelden> if we split a /13 more it makes routing more difficult
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<jvanvelden> becides, Auckland has 1/3rd of the population of NZ, so it will need far more ips that other regions.
<jvanvelden> it makes the routing table make more sence. instead of a massive table, its 1/3rd of the size, and it knows that if the packet is destined for the other side of Auckland, it can just pass it to the gatewayserver.
<Trvln> ok I see what you mean
<Trvln> ok I'll copy paste into forum