Options other than Telescum / Telstrascum

tcwicks · #1 (**permalink**) 08-16-2004, 10:38 PM

Hi peoples. I've been using walker wireless for ages but I moved house to Henderson. Result is I lose my fixed wireless 2.4 Ghz service. I am further than 7 KM away from Walker wireless POP so they cannot legally connect me on their 5.3 Ghz. I just tried wired country but the installers were just here and there is zero signal strength. It's a residential area #83a Harrington Road, Henderson - off Universal Drive. Tangent / Vector does not seem to be an option either. Does anyone know of any option whatsoever.

Thanks Heaps

Cheers
Tikiri

whetu · #2 (**permalink**) 08-17-2004, 04:25 AM

Jump on your roof with a laptop and an antenna and see if you can see nzwireless.co.nz.. their nodes are usually named something like NZWIRELESS-22 or some other number.. for example I'm connecting to NZWIRELESS-14

as for the 7km limit, I think that regulation might be a little outdated because MED has recently laxed the rules for 5.x spectrum. I'd say it has something to do with WW/woosh being too lazy/retarded/incompetent/something equally negative

Shaffe · #3 (**permalink**) 08-18-2004, 04:57 AM

I have recently been testing one way satellite broadband in Auckland. Whilst the speeds are not as hot as DSL, the cost savings and reliability have been excellent. I'd like to know from others, particularly around the country, if a cheaper form of broadband option (512kbs- download) is viable and what sort of costs this type of system should be siting at.

tcwicks · #4 (**permalink**) 08-18-2004, 08:14 AM

Just out of curiosity
What is the data capacity of the nzwireless mesh so far.

Next question are there any nodes operating in the henderson area near Lincoln Road and Universal Drive. If not then what frequency equipment should I be looking at getting if I want to setup as a node. 2.4 Ghz or 5.X Ghz ? Also what about WIFI ?

Next question is there anyone piping internet bandwidth into the NZWireless mesh and if not is it feasible to do this ?

Last question what about routing ? Are you peoples running this as a bridged network or are you routing the network. If you are routing the network then is it Linux Routers ? with BGP / IGRP / some other routing protocol ?

Sorry for the heap of questions ?

Skink · #5 (**permalink**) 08-18-2004, 10:13 AM

wifi refers to the general group of wireless networking equipment based on the 802.11x standard with 802.11a being rarely used (ive only seen mcd's use it) and 802.11b or g being the standard equipment.

being a node does not mean that you get free internet access, nodebuilders do this to share files or give away free internet (or in some cases, not-so-free internet)

tcwicks · #6 (**permalink**) 08-18-2004, 08:52 PM

I am not looking for free Internet Access. Rather I am thinking of setting up a node. However what I was thinking is to get a wired country link when it becomes available in the next 4 to 6 months in my area and then pipe that into the NZWireless Network. After all it would cost me hardly anything to do this.

Also wondering does anyone know what the height restriction is in the henderson area. Is it 10 meters or is it 9 meters.

tcwicks · #7 (**permalink**) 08-18-2004, 08:56 PM

Does anyone have any knowledge of whether the following equipment actually lives up to the manufacturers claims

http://www.firstmilewireless.com/prod_redl...dline-an50.html

OR

http://www.sagaxis.com/index_files/Backhaul.htm

Skink · #8 (**permalink**) 08-19-2004, 06:09 AM

I can help you set up a 1-box node if you wish, this is what I have set up, and just pipe my internet connection into it via my laptop.

If you wish I can provide you with a list of hardware and an omni-directional antenna for $20 (the cost of the antenna). or I can build your node for you on an up-front payment basis.

If you want to share files, or link to another node (dont know if there are any out there) you will need either a server (for files). A server w/ wifi card (for connecting to other node) or an AP which can connect in client mode. you can fit two APs in the same waterproof box.

My setup is a DWL-900ap+ with manual power-hack (mozilla ver) in a box, up the TV mast connected to a homebrew omni.

Skink · #9 (**permalink**) 08-19-2004, 06:14 AM

Also, any node should use the 802.11b or 802.11g (2.4GHz) type setup, using anything else is pointless as no-one really uses anything else.

Skink · #10 (**permalink**) 08-19-2004, 06:19 AM

i also beleive that this is a bridged network as most nodes archs go like this:

END USER
. ^
. |
. |
NODE AP
. ^
. |
. |
LINKING AP (may be more than one) <-------- Other nodes Linking or Node AP

(ignore the dots)

whetu · #11 (**permalink**) 08-19-2004, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Also, any node should use the 802.11b or 802.11g (2.4GHz) type setup, using anything else is pointless as no-one really uses anything else.

I partially disagree with this.

If you want to run a slightly more controlled backbone network (pay particular attention to the word backbone, I do not mean client end which can still be 2.4), 2.4 is not going to be good because it's a noisy slice of spectrum, especially worse is self-interference between your backbone point to point links and your client-end node. There is the added advantage of kiddies not being able to easily warstumble their way onto your big backhaul links for the real fast bandwidth.

Then there is the matter of scalability, 5.x spectrum is going to scale a lot faster than 2.4. If you want a good upgrade path to .n and wimax options, then your best bet is .a

Everything has their uses, even .a

So dont stick with just one standard, mix and match to suit the requirements of the link

Trvln Nalzmn · #12 (**permalink**) 08-19-2004, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Does anyone have any knowledge of whether the following equipment actually lives up to the manufacturers claims

http://www.firstmilewireless.com/prod_redl...dline-an50.html

OR

http://www.sagaxis.com/index_files/Backhaul.htm

The claims aren't particularly good for commercial gear apart from the non-LOS claim of the redline gear.

Skink · #13 (**permalink**) 08-19-2004, 09:59 AM

Apologies, yes i was referring to th client end of the link, not the backhaul, which would be more suitable for another standard like .n or .a, which has very little interference, or maybe a non-standard laser link or something.