Trying to set Up Wifi Network @ home

Hi All,
Im new here and at this wireless networking thing ! ok heres what Im trying to do ,My partner has a HP5450 pocket PC with Wifi Im trying to set up a wireless system at home so she can share our jetstream connection etc ... ok heres what I have ....

Im running a DSE { dick smith electronics } XH1149 ADSL Router connected to Telecoms jetstream 256K

I have just bought a DSE wireless Lan Access Point { XH7988 }
And An RJ 45 crossover cable

can someone please tell em how to set up this so that the WLAN can talk to the Router and the PPC can use the wireless system to conect the the net etc ...

I have tryed to follow the instruction's but with no luck am getting lost with all the IP adresses etc , I can't find anything on the net that makes sence for this newby !

Will this system work ?? how do I get it to work ??

Thanks all for looking and helping this boy who is close to tearing his head out !!

Cheers
Andrew
AKA very-short
System spec..... p4 2.6
1.250 Gigs pc 3200 DDR
Win XP Home Ed

The easyest thing to do would be to contact one of the scaffies down your way. Do a search for "scaffies" in google and you can't go wrong.

Thanks for the advice I found something on here from someone hwo bought the same AP but still cant get anything going Im totally confused .,.....lol

why do people force themselves to suffer the indignity of using DSE gear?

Wait, dont answer that... I'll be helpful now...

Assuming for a moment that your equipment is using the default IP addresses, your ADSL router will be on 192.168.1.2 and your AP will be on 192.168.0.254

192.168.1.2
192.168.0.254

Can you see the problem here? The two devices are on different subnets, so they cannot talk to one another.

SO, the solution to your problem is this:
Use the crappy DSE SNMP config tool to connect to the AP, and set the IP address of the AP to 192.168.1.254, and set the gateway to 192.168.1.2

Let us know how that goes

Thanks for the info ... the problem is I cant get into the SNMP to config the WLAN everytime I use the SNMP it comes up with a error message .....I cant copy and paste the mesage so you can see what is happing it too long .Im at the point of giving up .... will this work .... the guy at DSE said to bypass the router for now so I can config the AP once that is done all I have to do is plug the AP into the router again .this seems a lot of dicking round and they maintain " easy Install !!" what a load of crap that is !

cheers
Andrew w

I think what the tricky dickies drone was trying to say was to get your computer on the same subnet as the AP.

Let's look at this another way:
Your router is 192.168.1.2 right?
Therefore, assuming for a moment that your computer is hooked up to the router via ethernet, your computer will also be on the 192.168.1.x subnet (let's say for the sake of argument that your computer is 192.168.1.3, and points to 192.168.1.2 for the gateway)

As your computer is on 192.168.1.x, it cannot and will not talk to anything that is not also on 192.168.1.x Because the AP is on 192.168.0.x and not 192.168.1.x, the two wont see each other.

SO, the solution to that problem is to manually set your computer to the 192.168.0.x subnet, setup your AP and bring them both back to 192.168.1.x

So, step by step:
1 ) Change your PC's IP address to 192.168.0.3
2 ) Use the crappy SNMP to setup the crappy DSE AP crap
3 ) GOTO my last post
4 ) follow the advice in my last post
5 ) Bring your PC's IP back to 192.168.1.3 or DHCP or whatever it was before step 1
6 ) With everything now on the same subnet, everything should be hunky dory
7 ) Learn your lesson: Dont buy DSE gear again
8 ) Learn your lesson: Consider buying a beginners networking book. Might I recommend the First Step series by Cisco

Thanks again Whetu , Ok no joy man I suck at this can you please run through for me how to change your puters IP Addy as I want to make sure that Im in the right place .sorry to be such a vegetable ! You are right about the gateway addy my routers IP is 192.168.1.115. I can see your point about needing to be on the same IP but I cant get into this damn AP to change anything .I have tryed pulling my RJ45 out of the router and put it straight into the AP and still no joy this is crazy !! but thanks for all your help .will keep trying I guess but treat me as a complete dummy ....lol

Cheers
Andrew

opps more to follow up heres my current details ...

Router IP 192.168.1.2
AP IP 192.168.0.254

My router config for the internet..

IP 192.168.1.115
Gateway.. 192.168.1.2

I can see that the AP and my IP are two different numbers but I cant get in to change the stupid AP Addy my system just cant seem to find it weither its connected through the router on directly into my network card .

it would be great if you could start from the begining in terms of what needs to be plug into what to try and talk to the AP once I can get into the config for the AP I should be away . Sorry all if I sound stupid ...probably because I am when it comes to networking.

Cheers
Andrew

you realise if I dumb this down much further I'll have to get out paper and crayons

OK, let's set some constants here:
Your PC's IP: 192.168.1.115
Your ADSL Router's IP: 192.168.1.2
Your AP's IP: 192.168.0.254.

Our goal:
To get the AP onto the 192.168.1.x subnet

So, step by step:
1 ) Change your PC's IP address to 192.168.0.115
To do this, go to Start > Settings > Control Panel > Network Connections
OR
Right-click on My Network Places (on your desktop) and click on Properties. Then Right-Click on your LAN Connection Icon, and then click on Properties.

Then Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and again select Properties

Select Use the following IP address and fill out the fields as required:


In your case, you'll want the IP to be 192.168.0.115, the subnet mask remains 255.255.255.0 and the gateway and dns remains unchanged.

This will put the PC and AP on the same IP range. Disconnect the Router from your PC and connect the AP directly to your PC. Make sure the AP is turned on.

Click on Start > Run. Type "cmd" (without speechmarks) and press enter.
you will get a window that looks similar to DOS. Type in the following:
ping 192.168.0.254

and press enter....

If you can get a response, then move on to step 2. If you get a request timed out, then you may have a problem.

2 ) Use the crappy SNMP to setup the crappy DSE AP crap
3 ) In the configuration (as per the manual) set the AP's IP to 192.168.1.254. The subnet mask remains 255.255.255.0, set the gateway to 192.168.1.2
4 ) Repeat step 1 to bring your PC's IP back to 192.168.1.115 or DHCP
5 ) I dont know if your router has a built in network switch, if it does, hook up your PC and AP directly to that switch

This should have all your devices on the same subnet and talking to one another.

Holly Shit Your a genuiss!!!!!!!! thank you so much for your help mr/mrs Whetu ,my pda hooks up to it no worries yay can surf the net on it ! I found that my firewall was also causing problems { in terms of just trying to find the AP once I turned that off and configured it I was away thank you so much for putting up with my stupidity and yeah I too through you might have to get the crayons out .

once again thanks heaps for all your help !

Cheers
Andrew

my next question to you is can I use my PDA to Talk to the PC { as in sync it via WLAN ? } if so how can I do this I want to be able to use my Printer , internet connection { which I can do now } and file share between my PC and my PPC .is this done by setting up the PPC or Mmy desktop PC ?

Cheers
Andrew w

grab and install microsoft activesync:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&DisplayLang=en

Not so sure about printing.. you may be able to setup a connection to a network printer on your pda

Cool thanks for that , We are running the latest active sync at the moment { 3.8 }. will look into the printer sharing thing though .Once again thanks for all your help .

Bravo Whetu,

I know i would have given up by then. You must have plenty of time on your hands!!

You run a Linsys wrt?

Cheers

wookie

An ex-girlfriend once said I had the patience of a saint (remarkable.. they're all dead so they've got a LOT of patience )

That and professionally I'm a Technical Analyst, which is a slight step up from Helpdesk lacky, so I'm used to helping noobs :roll:

Personally I'm running a Senao .G Access Point for my home network, though I've had a good play with a WRT54GS

nar Whetu is just special ! the red hearing in thsi turned out to be my firewall It wouldnt let the router find the AP but all is good now thank's to WHETU.

had any lulck with bandwidth monitoring using netflows from the wrt and logging/graphing on a remote server?