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Old 10-29-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default High ping on LAN games

This has been happening since I got this router (AR625W). When I get all of my computers connected to a server on the LAN, they get a ping of around 900ms (while playing half life 2 deathmatch). My computer, which is usually the host, is connected by a wire to the router. The other four are connected wirelessly. two have wireless NICs that are the same brand as the router, Airlink101, and two are D-links that have 54mbps speeds.

The Router is using WPA-PSK encryption with TKIP. While this is enabled, the ping stays way up at around 900ms. But after turning off the encryption completely does the ping on all computers go down to 5ms. I've tried all encryption settings. They all have the same effect on ping. Disabling encryption completely fixes the ping problem, but I can't risk having other people connecting through my router from the out side.

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Old 10-30-2007, 01:12 AM
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The reason for this is that whilst encryption is enabled every single packet being sent/recieved by the router is encrypted, this takes time, and when playing games that require such high data throughout the adverse affect is high ping times. The only real way around it is to either not use encryption or to purchase some real wireless hardware that is capable of processing the encryption properly in real time without latency (reach deep into your pocket). You could attampt to change the packet sizing as well, but I dout it will help.

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Old 10-30-2007, 05:38 PM
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That what I thought.

Hmmm... Could I possibly use MAC filtering to let my computers connect instead of encryption and still remain safe from out side access? Already have default router password reset and SSID Broadcast off.

The ping is no where as bad on the internet. We have this server we play on together, which is located 20 miles from here. And the ping for all of us, all of the time, is between
5 and 15ms. Which I think is kinda weird. Why would there be more ping on a LAN game, where the data throughput is 300mbps, than on a Internet server, where all of our computers are sharing one connection and the throughput is 4 mbps? But I guess it leads back to that encryption problem.


I'm am looking into getting another router. This one I think has some kind of problem. Random connection drops, random restarts, etc... So could you give me a suggestion for a good wireless N router? I've been looking around, and none of them seem to have real great reviews. Thx for your help!

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Old 10-30-2007, 06:26 PM
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The reason you are getting longer ping times on your wireless than on the internet even thou you have 300mbps is simple, you aren't getting 300mbps, and frankly you never will. Your true data throughput will be 54mb or less, more than probable less. The N type routers simply don't work well and you will find that you get far better data throughput by using a simple G mode device especially for gaming and VoIP.

My best suggestion for a N Router is don't waist your money on them. Buy a G mode router and have it work for you not against you.

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Old 10-30-2007, 09:30 PM
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Yeah, I've never really had 300mbps all the time, usually goes up and down. Probably because I'm using those 2 d-link cards that are 54mbps.

Probably shouldn't have bought airlink 101, had a feeling that a 40$ wireless N router wouldn't work well. Guess its what I get for going cheap. I'm sure another brand of wireless N would work better than this one. But until they get all of the bugs out of N, I'm just going to go with you, and get a good G router.
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Im looking into getting this router now:

FRYS.com*|*D-Link

Seems to have really good reviews.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:04 AM
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I have just done some searching of the reviews of this product. Very impressive device, untill I noticed how they have them setup. In all of the reviews I read they had setup two DGL4300s with a PC attached to each DGL4300. This makes a DGL4300 to DGL4300 link. Nothing was mentioned about a DGL4300 to a normal wireless connection. I am guesing that this is because if you did that you wouldn't get the data throughput. This is normal for all high throughput devices.

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Question: Is the d-link desktop cards DWL-G520, DWL-G520M, and WDA-2320 all compatible with the DGL4300 router? I already have the first two listed, and I may go and buy two WDA-2320. But will I get full 108 mbps on all of them? The DWL-G520 has the xtreme G, and the DWL-G520M has super G, but I don't know if that would cause any problems. I just want to make sure I don't make the same mistake twice and start mixing different cards with different speeds like I did the first time.

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The simplest thing is to use the same devices throughout. Them if you get good data throughput on one you will get it on all, conversly if you get bad data throughput on one you will get it on all.

When it comes to any device claiming to have data rates greater than 54mb I tend to treat them with a degreee of scepticism after all G is the standard. Anything other than G is essentualy a gimic and is something specific to a manufacturer and therefore any performance specifications would be exclusive to their products. These are just things to keep in mind when concidering equipment.

I like yourself I went through considerable growing pains when concidering equipment for my network. But then my network is public so I had to stick to something that met industry standards to aviod the compatabilty issues that arrise from on standard equipment.

These are just my thoughts and at the end of the day you are the person purchasing and using the equipment.

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Just got the WBR-2310, and it works great! Don't believe all the reviews you read about on the internet. Got it up and running in 20 minutes, with all computers attached. Updated with newest drivers. Security works great, and (drum roll).... theres no ping on the LAN games!

While its not the muscular DGL-4300 with the gigabyte Ethernet ports or Game fuel, it still runs all of my devices at 108 mbps.

Also replaced the little dinky 3 1/2 inch antenna with an Airlink101 10 dBi foot and a half antenna. So im getting 5 bars on all of the receivers.

Btw, how can you tell if an antenna is going to preform well or not? What I mean is, is 10 dBi good? Would I have gotten the same coverage with a 5 dBi,
or a 2 dBi antenna?

But anyway, thx for your help on this post. You assistance is appreciated.

ps. Links to my hardware:

Router:: FRYS.com*|*D-Link

Antenna::
FRYS.com*|*Airlink

thx again,
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