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Old 07-13-2008, 11:09 AM
Iain
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Default 3 Mobile internet options

I'm a bit confused by the various offerings from three.

On a PAYG (Flat12) setup, you seem to be able to add Internet
Daily/Weekly/Monthly, or a monthly Mobile Broadband add-on.

The price list says that Mobile Broadband is 10 for a month with a 1GB
cap, and that Internet Monthly is 5 with a 2GB cap.

There must be some reason for the Internet Monthly to be half the price
for twice the data allowance of Mobile Broadband Lite.

Can anyone explain what it is?

Iain

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Old 07-13-2008, 11:22 AM
Steve Terry
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"Iain" <no-one@hairydog.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1215947473.17427.0@proxy01.news.clara.net...
> I'm a bit confused by the various offerings from three.
> On a PAYG (Flat12) setup, you seem to be able to add Internet
> Daily/Weekly/Monthly, or a monthly Mobile Broadband add-on.
> The price list says that Mobile Broadband is 10 for a month with a 1GB
> cap, and that Internet Monthly is 5 with a 2GB cap.
> There must be some reason for the Internet Monthly to be half the price
> for twice the data allowance of Mobile Broadband Lite.
> Can anyone explain what it is?
> Iain
>
>

It's less than half the speed of Broadband with a normal modem/phone,
and 1/6 the speed of Broadband with a HSDPA turbo modem/phone
on a 3.5G cell

and unless you use SMTP port ssl 465 instead of 25,
you'll get charged for every email sent

Steve Terry



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Old 07-13-2008, 12:07 PM
Iain
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Default Re: 3 Mobile internet options

Steve Terry wrote:

> It's less than half the speed of Broadband with a normal modem/phone,
> and 1/6 the speed of Broadband with a HSDPA turbo modem/phone
> on a 3.5G cell
>


So it is standard 3G not their faster thing? Why don't they make that clear?

Though to be honest, 800k down and 300k up is good enough for a lot of uses.

> and unless you use SMTP port ssl 465 instead of 25,
> you'll get charged for every email sent


That's odd. Are they capturing port 25? Silly thing to do.

Presumably if you use a VPN across it, they can't do that.

Iain

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Old 07-13-2008, 04:30 PM
Theo Markettos
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Iain <no-one@hairydog.co.uk> wrote:
> Steve Terry wrote:
>
> > It's less than half the speed of Broadband with a normal modem/phone,
> > and 1/6 the speed of Broadband with a HSDPA turbo modem/phone
> > on a 3.5G cell
> >

> So it is standard 3G not their faster thing? Why don't they make that clear?


The Internet addons are intended for browsing on phones, the Mobile
Broadband for browsing on laptops. I have no idea how this is enforced.

Theo

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Old 07-13-2008, 09:12 PM
Brian A
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On 13 Jul 2008 17:30:56 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>Iain <no-one@hairydog.co.uk> wrote:
>> Steve Terry wrote:
>>
>> > It's less than half the speed of Broadband with a normal modem/phone,
>> > and 1/6 the speed of Broadband with a HSDPA turbo modem/phone
>> > on a 3.5G cell
>> >

>> So it is standard 3G not their faster thing? Why don't they make that clear?

>
>The Internet addons are intended for browsing on phones, the Mobile
>Broadband for browsing on laptops. I have no idea how this is enforced.

Maybe it isn't. If you get the 'mobile broadband' as distinct from the
HSDPA broadband you get a slower speed. For me that is OK, I would
only want to pay 5/month anyway. I don't think that it would be in
3's interest to upset people who are happy browsing, on their laptops,
with the slower speed. It would be easy to assume that all those
people, who use the 5 deal for laptop browsing, would be happy to pay
double for the faster speed. I don't believe they would, otherwise
they would have chosen that initially. It is the same illogical
presumption that all those who share music (or tape it as in the old
days) would have bought it had they not been able to get it for free.



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Old 07-14-2008, 09:03 AM
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On 13 Jul, 12:09, Iain <no-...@hairydog.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm a bit confused by the various offerings from three.
>
> On a PAYG (Flat12) setup, you seem to be able to add Internet
> Daily/Weekly/Monthly, or a monthly Mobile Broadband add-on.
>
> The price list says that Mobile Broadband is 10 for a month with a 1GB
> cap, and that Internet Monthly is 5 with a 2GB cap.
>
> There must be some reason for the Internet Monthly to be half the price
> for twice the data allowance of Mobile Broadband Lite.
>
> Can anyone explain what it is?
>
> Iain


Its simply that you can only use it on your handset - you can't use it
as a modem, because that is disabled.

Most of the other comments about differing speeds are simply wrong.

Mine runs on 3.5G most of the time, only occassionally slipping back
to 3G when the signal weakens.
On a Nokia 6120 it is fantastic value, and very quick.


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Old 07-14-2008, 11:27 AM
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mobaholic wrote:

> Its simply that you can only use it on your handset - you can't use it
> as a modem, because that is disabled.


No, that's definitely not the case. I tried it with a ZTE MF622 and it
worked just fine.


> Most of the other comments about differing speeds are simply wrong.


I got about 900 down, 350 up, but the signal was poor at the time I tested.

>
> Mine runs on 3.5G most of the time, only occassionally slipping back
> to 3G when the signal weakens.
> On a Nokia 6120 it is fantastic value, and very quick.


It was quite useable. But this was the "daily" one - 50p to test with.



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Old 07-14-2008, 07:34 PM
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"mobaholic" <mobaholic.1@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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On 13 Jul, 12:09, Iain <no-...@hairydog.co.uk> wrote:
>> I'm a bit confused by the various offerings from three.
>> On a PAYG (Flat12) setup, you seem to be able to add Internet
>> Daily/Weekly/Monthly, or a monthly Mobile Broadband add-on.
>> The price list says that Mobile Broadband is 10 for a month with a 1GB
>> cap, and that Internet Monthly is 5 with a 2GB cap.
>> There must be some reason for the Internet Monthly to be half the price
>> for twice the data allowance of Mobile Broadband Lite.
>> Can anyone explain what it is?
>> Iain

>
>It's simply that you can only use it on your handset - you can't use it
>as a modem, because that is disabled.
>
>

OK so i'm not sending this from my laptop, using a Nokia 6630 on
3 PAYG, 5 quid internet monthly.

I believe O2 do (or used to) block the ports on their WAP internet
to stop precisely that

Steve Terry








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Old 07-14-2008, 08:56 PM
Iain
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Iain wrote:
> mobaholic wrote:
>
>> Its simply that you can only use it on your handset - you can't use it
>> as a modem, because that is disabled.

>
> No, that's definitely not the case. I tried it with a ZTE MF622 and it
> worked just fine.


Interestingly, I've had a reply from 3 support saying that because I
have a usb modem, I can't use a daily (or weekly or monthly) internet
addon and that any data used will be charged at some extortionate rate.
Luckily they are quite simply wrong. I did add it, I did use it and I
wasn't charged.

Now the daily internet addon has expired, I've tried the mobile
broadband, but it is r e a l l y s l o w right now. About one tenth
of the speeds I got before.

But I think there is a holdup in the 3 network. At first I got higher
speeds via a VPN to my office network than I did direct through 3.

Then I retried and got back to the 900k down, 300k up I got on the "50p
for a day" deal.

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Old 07-18-2008, 04:24 PM
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"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> OK so i'm not sending this from my laptop, using a Nokia 6630 on
> 3 PAYG, 5 quid internet monthly.
>
> I believe O2 do (or used to) block the ports on their WAP internet
> to stop precisely that


Does 3 block anything on their 5 quid a month deal? Do you get charged
extra for any usage?

JP

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Old 07-19-2008, 09:50 AM
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On 18 Jul, 17:24, "Jeremy Porteous"
<REMOVEjeremyporteousT...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote in message
>
> news:g5ga58$s1f$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> > OK so i'm not sending this from my laptop, using a Nokia 6630 on
> > 3 PAYG, 5 quid internet monthly.

>
> > I believe O2 do (or used to) block the ports on their WAP internet
> > to stop precisely that

>
> Does 3 block anything on their 5 quid a month deal? *Do you get charged
> extra for any usage?
>
> JP
>
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**


They attempt to block whatever they deem to be adult sites - BUT you
can get around most of these blocks using operamini software.
For some reason you can usually access a site using this, without
being redirected to 3's own adult collection.
HTH.


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Old 07-19-2008, 02:47 PM
Steve Terry
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"mobaholic" <mobaholic.1@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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On 18 Jul, 17:24, "Jeremy Porteous"
<REMOVEjeremyporteousT...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:g5ga58$s1f$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> > OK so i'm not sending this from my laptop, using a Nokia 6630 on
>> > 3 PAYG, 5 quid internet monthly.

>>
>> > I believe O2 do (or used to) block the ports on their WAP internet
>> > to stop precisely that

>>
>> Does 3 block anything on their 5 quid a month deal? Do you get charged
>> extra for any usage?

>

Sending 3 email is charge for on port 25, so use say googlemail SSL
on port 465 instead
>

<snip>
>They attempt to block whatever they deem to be adult sites - BUT you
>can get around most of these blocks using operamini software.
>For some reason you can usually access a site using this, without
>being redirected to 3's own adult collection.
>HTH.
>
>

You can get the adult bar lifted on 3 PAYG by registering a credit card
to prove age over 18

Steve Terry






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Old 07-19-2008, 05:11 PM
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On 18 Jul, 17:24, "Jeremy Porteous"
<REMOVEjeremyporteousT...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote in message
>
> news:g5ga58$s1f$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> > OK so i'm not sending this from my laptop, using a Nokia 6630 on
> > 3 PAYG, 5 quid internet monthly.

>
> > I believe O2 do (or used to) block the ports on their WAP internet
> > to stop precisely that

>
> Does 3 block anything on their 5 quid a month deal? Do you get charged
> extra for any usage?
>
> JP
>
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**


All access to orb.com and any sub-domains of orb.com are blocked.

Again as has already been posted - you can workaround this using Opera
Mini.

Martin.

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