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Old 01-05-2007, 12:11 PM
Craig Cockburn
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Default 3g sim

Hi

I have an old 2g sim and want to upgrade it to a 3g sim and keep the
same phone number. Is there any way to do this without getting my phone
company to send me one as they are insisting I upgrade the phone to do
this, which I don't want to do (my existing phone is 3g compatible and
the phone company doesn't offer that model)

thanks
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:46 PM
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"Craig Cockburn" <craig@siliconglen.com> wrote in message
news:CJ53+ZDfBknFFw3Q@siliconglen.com...
> Hi
>
> I have an old 2g sim and want to upgrade it to a 3g sim and keep the same
> phone number. Is there any way to do this without getting my phone company
> to send me one as they are insisting I upgrade the phone to do this, which
> I don't want to do (my existing phone is 3g compatible and the phone
> company doesn't offer that model)
>
> thanks
> --
> Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). M.Sc., CITP, CEng
> Owner, http://www.siliconglen.com/
> Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994.
> Scottish blog, FAQ, weddings, website design, stop spam and more!



it would help if you said who your provider is????




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Old 01-05-2007, 07:49 PM
Craig Cockburn
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In message <O9wnh.253980$bz5.252877@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk >, Neil -
Usenet <usenet1@SPAMblueyonder.co.uk> writes
>
>"Craig Cockburn" <craig@siliconglen.com> wrote in message
>news:CJ53+ZDfBknFFw3Q@siliconglen.com...
>> Hi
>>
>> I have an old 2g sim and want to upgrade it to a 3g sim and keep the same
>> phone number. Is there any way to do this without getting my phone company
>> to send me one as they are insisting I upgrade the phone to do this, which
>> I don't want to do (my existing phone is 3g compatible and the phone
>> company doesn't offer that model)
>>
>> thanks
>> --
>> Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). M.Sc., CITP, CEng
>> Owner, http://www.siliconglen.com/
>> Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994.
>> Scottish blog, FAQ, weddings, website design, stop spam and more!

>
>
>it would help if you said who your provider is????
>

Orange.

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Old 01-05-2007, 09:23 PM
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Craig Cockburn wrote:
> In message <O9wnh.253980$bz5.252877@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk >, Neil -
> Usenet <usenet1@SPAMblueyonder.co.uk> writes
>
>>
>> "Craig Cockburn" <craig@siliconglen.com> wrote in message
>> news:CJ53+ZDfBknFFw3Q@siliconglen.com...
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have an old 2g sim and want to upgrade it to a 3g sim and keep the
>>> same
>>> phone number. Is there any way to do this without getting my phone
>>> company
>>> to send me one as they are insisting I upgrade the phone to do this,
>>> which
>>> I don't want to do (my existing phone is 3g compatible and the phone
>>> company doesn't offer that model)
>>>
>>> thanks


>> it would help if you said who your provider is????
>>

> Orange.
>

Orange will not supply 3G sims on their own if you are on contract.

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Old 01-05-2007, 10:05 PM
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"Craig Cockburn" <craig@siliconglen.com> wrote in message
news:xHHbduCnvqnFFwQ6@siliconglen.com...
> In message <O9wnh.253980$bz5.252877@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk >, Neil -
> Usenet <usenet1@SPAMblueyonder.co.uk> writes
>>
>>"Craig Cockburn" <craig@siliconglen.com> wrote in message
>>news:CJ53+ZDfBknFFw3Q@siliconglen.com...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have an old 2g sim and want to upgrade it to a 3g sim and keep the
>>> same
>>> phone number. Is there any way to do this without getting my phone
>>> company
>>> to send me one as they are insisting I upgrade the phone to do this,
>>> which
>>> I don't want to do (my existing phone is 3g compatible and the phone
>>> company doesn't offer that model)
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> --
>>> Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). M.Sc., CITP, CEng
>>> Owner, http://www.siliconglen.com/
>>> Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994.
>>> Scottish blog, FAQ, weddings, website design, stop spam and more!

>>
>>
>>it would help if you said who your provider is????
>>

> Orange.
>
> --
> Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). M.Sc., CITP, CEng
> Owner, http://www.siliconglen.com/
> Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994.
> Scottish blog, FAQ, weddings, website design, stop spam and more!



contract - do the upgrade, sell the new fone and put 3g sim in your old 1.
pay go- go orange shop, buy 3g sim and take it away. then fone the upgrade
team and process as normal as in keeping your number to repace a faulty sim
;-) this is the way i had to do my payg.



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Old 01-05-2007, 10:26 PM
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In message <xYznh.315073$Pk.8333@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk> , Neil -
Usenet <usenet1@SPAMblueyonder.co.uk> writes
>
>contract - do the upgrade, sell the new fone and put 3g sim in your old 1.
>pay go- go orange shop, buy 3g sim and take it away. then fone the upgrade
>team and process as normal as in keeping your number to repace a faulty sim
>;-) this is the way i had to do my payg.
>

I guess technically I'm on a contract as I'm not on PAYG.

I'm on the OVP Virgin tariff and typically spend about £10 a month on
calls although this is temporarily about £50/month.
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:38 PM
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Straight away I saw your post, I guessed you were probably on Orange!

I'm likely to be in a similar situation fairly soon.

Does anybody know what will happen if I lose/damage my 2g sim?

I know there will probably be a charge for a replacement sim (£10?),
but will the replacement sim from Orange be 2g or 3g, or should I wait
a bit longer until all Orange sims are 3g capable?

Regards

Simon Clark
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:51 PM
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In message <1168040306.558968.32760@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
simonclark123@hotmail.com writes
>
>Straight away I saw your post, I guessed you were probably on Orange!
>
>I'm likely to be in a similar situation fairly soon.
>
>Does anybody know what will happen if I lose/damage my 2g sim?
>
>I know there will probably be a charge for a replacement sim (£10?),
>but will the replacement sim from Orange be 2g or 3g, or should I wait
>a bit longer until all Orange sims are 3g capable?
>

Related to this, can I just order a duplicate sim anyway so that if my
phone is lost/stolen I can use the duplicate sim in a spare handset
until my main phone is replaced?

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Old 01-06-2007, 02:52 AM
Chris Boyd
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On 2007-01-05 23:51:15 +0000, Craig Cockburn <craig@siliconglen.com> said:

> In message <1168040306.558968.32760@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
> simonclark123@hotmail.com writes
>>
>> Straight away I saw your post, I guessed you were probably on Orange!
>>
>> I'm likely to be in a similar situation fairly soon.
>>
>> Does anybody know what will happen if I lose/damage my 2g sim?
>>
>> I know there will probably be a charge for a replacement sim (£10?),
>> but will the replacement sim from Orange be 2g or 3g, or should I wait
>> a bit longer until all Orange sims are 3g capable?
>>

> Related to this, can I just order a duplicate sim anyway so that if my
> phone is lost/stolen I can use the duplicate sim in a spare handset
> until my main phone is replaced?


Q1 - You'll get a 2G replacement all the time while you have a 2G
handset registered on your account. All Orange SIMs won't be 3G SIMs
until either they stop selling 2G phones, or they decide to just use
USIMs for everything. First one is a long long way off, and I don't
believe the second one is likely. I know the other networks implement
it differently, but I can't see Orange making a change.

Q2 - You can only get a replacement SIM if you've actually lost one.
If you order a replacement, the current SIM will be deactivated. IIRC
I remember reading that a selection of customers on Orange Premier were
given spare SIMs to quickly get set-up again if needs be. This never
went any further than that as far as I'm aware though.



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Old 01-06-2007, 10:27 AM
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In message <2007010602495716807-chrisbboyd@NOSPAMgmailcom>, Chris Boyd
<chrisbboyd@NOSPAMgmail.com> writes
>On 2007-01-05 23:51:15 +0000, Craig Cockburn <craig@siliconglen.com> said:
>
>> In message <1168040306.558968.32760@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
>>simonclark123@hotmail.com writes
>>> Straight away I saw your post, I guessed you were probably on
>>>Orange!
>>> I'm likely to be in a similar situation fairly soon.
>>> Does anybody know what will happen if I lose/damage my 2g sim?
>>> I know there will probably be a charge for a replacement sim
>>>(£10?),
>>> but will the replacement sim from Orange be 2g or 3g, or should I wait
>>> a bit longer until all Orange sims are 3g capable?
>>>

>> Related to this, can I just order a duplicate sim anyway so that if
>>my phone is lost/stolen I can use the duplicate sim in a spare handset
>>until my main phone is replaced?

>
>Q1 - You'll get a 2G replacement all the time while you have a 2G
>handset registered on your account. All Orange SIMs won't be 3G SIMs
>until either they stop selling 2G phones, or they decide to just use
>USIMs for everything. First one is a long long way off, and I don't
>believe the second one is likely. I know the other networks implement
>it differently, but I can't see Orange making a change.
>
>Q2 - You can only get a replacement SIM if you've actually lost one.
>If you order a replacement, the current SIM will be deactivated. IIRC
>I remember reading that a selection of customers on Orange Premier were
>given spare SIMs to quickly get set-up again if needs be. This never
>went any further than that as far as I'm aware though.
>

Fair enough, but if I want a 3G sim is there any phone shops/ tottenham
court road etc which will do this for me if I take in the old one?

Craig
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:09 AM
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"Craig Cockburn" <craig@siliconglen.com> wrote in message
news:CJ53+ZDfBknFFw3Q@siliconglen.com...
> Hi
>
> I have an old 2g sim and want to upgrade it to a 3g sim and keep the same
> phone number. Is there any way to do this without getting my phone company
> to send me one as they are insisting I upgrade the phone to do this, which
> I don't want to do (my existing phone is 3g compatible and the phone
> company doesn't offer that model)


I think the only way you could get what you want is to port to another
networks PAYG then port back to Orange on contract with 3g phone (should be
able to find a cashback deal that basically pays your line rental).



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Old 01-09-2007, 04:43 PM
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at least vodafone dont have 3g sims, all 2g to access all services.



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Old 01-10-2007, 01:17 PM
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:26:53 +0000, Craig Cockburn
<craig@siliconglen.com> wrote:

>>contract - do the upgrade, sell the new fone and put 3g sim in your old 1.
>>pay go- go orange shop, buy 3g sim and take it away. then fone the upgrade
>>team and process as normal as in keeping your number to repace a faulty sim
>>;-) this is the way i had to do my payg.
>>

>I guess technically I'm on a contract as I'm not on PAYG.
>
>I'm on the OVP Virgin tariff and typically spend about £10 a month on
>calls although this is temporarily about £50/month.


You might as well forget it. Orange don't want your custom and will
use every trick in the book to get you to let go of this tariff. I've
just left them for exactly the same reason and gone to T-Mobile.

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