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Old 10-21-2007, 12:37 PM
Knowlege is Powder
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Default Activating Orange PAYM 3G

I have recently changed my phone to a 3G one not brought through orange, but
put my Pay Monthly Sim in it

Does anyone know how I can get Orange to enable the 3G functionality on it

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Old 10-21-2007, 03:47 PM
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"Knowlege is Powder" <noyouc@ant.reply> wrote in message
news:fffdla$ar3$1@news.datemas.de...
>I have recently changed my phone to a 3G one not brought through
>orange, but put my Pay Monthly Sim in it
>
> Does anyone know how I can get Orange to enable the 3G functionality
> on it
>
>


UIVMM you won't be able to.... Orange 3G only works if you have a
"USIM", which you're unlikely to have if the previous phone was not
3G.
AFAIK, for contract users, they only give you a USIM if you upgrade to
a 3G phone with Orange.

You could try asking them, but you may have to upgrade to the cheapest
3G handset they have to get an appropriate SIM card.




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Old 10-21-2007, 04:03 PM
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noyouc@ant.reply declared for all the world to hear...
> I have recently changed my phone to a 3G one not brought through orange, but
> put my Pay Monthly Sim in it
>
> Does anyone know how I can get Orange to enable the 3G functionality on it


You can't. The only way is to purchase or upgrade to a 3G phone
"properly".
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:41 AM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
>> I have recently changed my phone to a 3G one not brought through orange,
>> but
>> put my Pay Monthly Sim in it
>>
>> Does anyone know how I can get Orange to enable the 3G functionality on
>> it

>
> You can't. The only way is to purchase or upgrade to a 3G phone
> "properly".
> --
> Regards
> Jon


Arghh, I have been calling customer services to get 3g enabled on my HTC
TYTN II, after getting nowhere I had decided to drop in on the nearest
Orange shop, 40 miles away, to sort it out.

If I took in a different 3g handset, Orange branded, and my PAYG sim would
they then give/sell me a 3g sim?

Rob



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Old 10-23-2007, 10:45 AM
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BigRob wrote:
> "Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
>>> I have recently changed my phone to a 3G one not brought through orange,
>>> but
>>> put my Pay Monthly Sim in it
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how I can get Orange to enable the 3G functionality on
>>> it

>> You can't. The only way is to purchase or upgrade to a 3G phone
>> "properly".
>> --
>> Regards
>> Jon

>
> Arghh, I have been calling customer services to get 3g enabled on my HTC
> TYTN II, after getting nowhere I had decided to drop in on the nearest
> Orange shop, 40 miles away, to sort it out.
>
> If I took in a different 3g handset, Orange branded, and my PAYG sim would
> they then give/sell me a 3g sim?
>
> Rob


To enable 3G on a contract account, you need to upgrade to a 3G device
via Orange. Unfortunately, waving an Orange 3G device at staff isn't
sufficient.

I really, really cannot understand why Orange do this. My 20 month old
T-Mobile SIM supplied with a 2G device had 3G (and now HSDPA) enabled on
it out the box.

All I can see Orange doing is annoying the customers who purchase SIM
free handsets, who actually may save Orange money by not subsidising new
handsets to them!

D

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Old 10-23-2007, 11:04 AM
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"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
>
> I really, really cannot understand why Orange do this. My 20 month old
> T-Mobile SIM supplied with a 2G device had 3G (and now HSDPA) enabled on
> it out the box.
>
> All I can see Orange doing is annoying the customers who purchase SIM free
> handsets, who actually may save Orange money by not subsidising new
> handsets to them!
>
> D


Exactly, I have the device, it works on Orange 3g with another sim I have,
there should be no problem. So I now have to move from Orange to another
network just because I bought my own device and don't want to buy a second
phone.

Rob



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Old 10-24-2007, 03:06 PM
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"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
news:5o5u5dFkrc2nU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> I really, really cannot understand why Orange do this. My 20 month old
> T-Mobile SIM supplied with a 2G device had 3G (and now HSDPA) enabled on
> it out the box.


They want customers off "ringfenced" tariffs like OVP VM.

> All I can see Orange doing is annoying the customers who purchase SIM free
> handsets, who actually may save Orange money by not subsidising new
> handsets to them!


I think they would rather charge you a bit/lot more for their version of the
same handset

BTW
I called O2 a few months ago expecting to pay for a sim card to access 3G
speeds on a Data tariff I have.
A new sim card arrived the next day with an invoice for £0.00p.


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Old 10-25-2007, 07:31 AM
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NoReply@spam.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Arghh, I have been calling customer services to get 3g enabled on my HTC
> TYTN II, after getting nowhere I had decided to drop in on the nearest
> Orange shop, 40 miles away, to sort it out.
>
> If I took in a different 3g handset, Orange branded, and my PAYG sim would
> they then give/sell me a 3g sim?


You can get 3G PAYG SIMs for free, you dont need to prove anything you
just need to ask for one.

If you are on pay monthly you can forget it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:09 AM
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Alan wrote:
> "David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:5o5u5dFkrc2nU1@mid.individual.net...
>> I really, really cannot understand why Orange do this. My 20 month old
>> T-Mobile SIM supplied with a 2G device had 3G (and now HSDPA) enabled on
>> it out the box.

>
> They want customers off "ringfenced" tariffs like OVP VM.


Although 3G data charges on those tariffs are usually quite high, and
are unable to add text bundles (at least, that's what I got when I tried
to do it online), so I guess also unable to add data bundles.

D

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Old 10-25-2007, 09:11 AM
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Jon wrote:
> NoReply@spam.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> Arghh, I have been calling customer services to get 3g enabled on my HTC
>> TYTN II, after getting nowhere I had decided to drop in on the nearest
>> Orange shop, 40 miles away, to sort it out.
>>
>> If I took in a different 3g handset, Orange branded, and my PAYG sim would
>> they then give/sell me a 3g sim?

>
> You can get 3G PAYG SIMs for free, you dont need to prove anything you
> just need to ask for one.
>
> If you are on pay monthly you can forget it.


Which seems a completely bizarre situation. Why penalise pay monthly
customers who want to buy their own handsets when PAYG customers can do
that. Surely, the subsidy on the pay monthly handset costs them money.
The only thing I can think of is that they want to tie people into a
longer contract - but with them being the only network who do this for
3G pay monthly customers, I'm sure a number may switch because of this
(and take up 'free' handset offers).

D

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Old 10-25-2007, 08:29 PM
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dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk declared for all the world to hear...
> Alan wrote:
> > "David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:5o5u5dFkrc2nU1@mid.individual.net...
> >> I really, really cannot understand why Orange do this. My 20 month old
> >> T-Mobile SIM supplied with a 2G device had 3G (and now HSDPA) enabled on
> >> it out the box.

> >
> > They want customers off "ringfenced" tariffs like OVP VM.

>
> Although 3G data charges on those tariffs are usually quite high, and
> are unable to add text bundles (at least, that's what I got when I tried
> to do it online), so I guess also unable to add data bundles.


3G data is no more expensive than 2G data.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:06 AM
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:09:13 +0100, David Hearn <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote:
>Alan wrote:
>> "David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:5o5u5dFkrc2nU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> I really, really cannot understand why Orange do this. My 20 month old
>>> T-Mobile SIM supplied with a 2G device had 3G (and now HSDPA) enabled on
>>> it out the box.

>>
>> They want customers off "ringfenced" tariffs like OVP VM.

>
>Although 3G data charges on those tariffs are usually quite high, and
>are unable to add text bundles (at least, that's what I got when I tried
>to do it online), so I guess also unable to add data bundles.


You can add data bundles. I've got the old Orange World 4 on my ED50
line, and within the past 2 months I put the OW Daily Capped option on my
OVP VM line.

So far I've only hammered the daily capped line hard once. I'll see how
well it worked when the bill comes through...

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