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Old 10-28-2009, 01:58 PM
Tim
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Default Anyone made a cross network 999 call yet?

I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made possible
for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's network not
being available.

Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works rather
than just being told that it works.

Tim


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Old 10-28-2009, 02:12 PM
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Tim has written:
> I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
> possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
> network not being available.
>
> Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works
> rather than just being told that it works.
>
> Tim


If your (uncited) source is credible then you'll just have to take it on
trust. If it's not credible then exactly how do you propose that the
claim be tested?

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Old 10-28-2009, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Anyone made a cross network 999 call yet?

On 28 Oct, 13:12, JonPhred <junk...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> Tim has written:
>
> > I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
> > possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
> > network not being available.

>
> > Long overdue but it would be *nice to know that it *actually* works
> > rather than just being told that it works.

>
> > Tim

>
> If your (uncited) source is credible then you'll just have to take it on
> trust. If it's not credible then exactly how do you propose that the
> claim be tested?
>
> --
> JonPhred


It does indeed work. Made a 999 call from a beach in West Wales using
my contract O2 phone with an 'emergency calls only' signal from
Vodafone. Worked brilliantly.

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Old 10-28-2009, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Anyone made a cross network 999 call yet?

JL wrote:
> On 28 Oct, 13:12, JonPhred <junk...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>> Tim has written:
>>
>>> I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
>>> possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own
>>> provider's network not being available.

>>
>>> Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works
>>> rather than just being told that it works.

>>
>>> Tim

>>
>> If your (uncited) source is credible then you'll just have to take
>> it on trust. If it's not credible then exactly how do you propose
>> that the claim be tested?
>>
>> --
>> JonPhred

>
> It does indeed work. Made a 999 call from a beach in West Wales using
> my contract O2 phone with an 'emergency calls only' signal from
> Vodafone. Worked brilliantly.


Ta da! Thank you JL.

Tim

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Old 10-28-2009, 04:04 PM
Tim
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JonPhred wrote:
> Tim has written:
>> I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
>> possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
>> network not being available.
>>
>> Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works
>> rather than just being told that it works.
>>
>> Tim

>
> If your (uncited) source is credible then you'll just have to take it
> on trust.


I believe the source is credible, I just want some reassurance that it
actually *does* work.

> If it's not credible then exactly how do you propose that
> the claim be tested?


Duh! By asking if someone's done it? Of course that still doesn't
constitute "proof" but I doubt folk who had successfully phoned 999 across
networks would lie about it.

Tim



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Old 10-29-2009, 01:39 AM
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"Tim" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7kqtfeF3a3qjsU1@mid.individual.net...
>I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made possible
>for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's network not
>being available.
>
> Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works rather
> than just being told that it works.
> Tim
>

Have you any news references for this?

Steve Terry



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Old 10-29-2009, 10:40 AM
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"Steve Terry" <gfourwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:hcao7v$iiu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Tim" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:7kqtfeF3a3qjsU1@mid.individual.net...
>>I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made possible
>>for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's network not
>>being available.
>>
>> Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works
>> rather than just being told that it works.
>> Tim
>>

> Have you any news references for this?



http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/200...lls-for-rescue

Paul


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Old 10-29-2009, 12:06 PM
Tim
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Paulg0 wrote:
> "Steve Terry" <gfourwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:hcao7v$iiu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Tim" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:7kqtfeF3a3qjsU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
>>> possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own
>>> provider's network not being available.
>>>
>>> Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works
>>> rather than just being told that it works.
>>> Tim
>>>

>> Have you any news references for this?

>
>
> http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/200...lls-for-rescue


Or from the horse's mouth

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consumer/200...ens/#more-3469

Tim


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Old 10-31-2009, 08:22 PM
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:58:10 +0000, Tim wrote:

> I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
> possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
> network not being available.


Nice. So when are they going to let mobile users make standard calls
through any network instead of pointlessly having four masts covering
each area?


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Old 10-31-2009, 10:41 PM
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In message <W70Hm.28923$zt3.21981@newsfe03.ams2>
Brown Cat <brown@eye.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:58:10 +0000, Tim wrote:
>
> > I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
> > possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
> > network not being available.

>
> Nice. So when are they going to let mobile users make standard calls
> through any network instead of pointlessly having four masts covering
> each area?


When hell freezes over.

Dave

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Old 11-01-2009, 02:30 PM
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"Dave Higton" <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:0acf0db350.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com...
> In message <W70Hm.28923$zt3.21981@newsfe03.ams2>
> Brown Cat <brown@eye.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:58:10 +0000, Tim wrote:
>>
>> > I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
>> > possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
>> > network not being available.

>>
>> Nice. So when are they going to let mobile users make standard calls
>> through any network instead of pointlessly having four masts covering
>> each area?

>
> When hell freezes over.
> Dave
>
>

You'd have to move to Switzerland, which does have internal roaming
They see it as a Civil Defence necessity

Steve Terry



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Old 11-01-2009, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Anyone made a cross network 999 call yet?

Dave Higton wrote:
>> Nice. So when are they going to let mobile users make standard calls
>> through any network instead of pointlessly having four masts covering
>> each area?

>
> When hell freezes over.


Some time before that, but in the history books (er, blogs) still to
write, there will be national free access to Wi-Fi (or similar wireless
VoIP internet technology) that anybody can make a voice/vido call
without cost or contract. Those masts and their owners probably ain't
going to be doing much in the long term except for maybe the provision
of mobile television services.

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Anyone made a cross network 999 call yet?

In article <hc9g1b$gfe$1@news.eternal-september.org>, junkman@gmx.co.uk
says...
> Tim has written:
> > I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
> > possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
> > network not being available.
> >
> > Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works
> > rather than just being told that it works.
> >
> > Tim

>
> If your (uncited) source is credible then you'll just have to take it on
> trust. If it's not credible then exactly how do you propose that the
> claim be tested?


By going to an area of known no-coverage, dialling 99 and upon the call
being answered simply sating "this is a test call, thankyou. There is no
emergency"
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:38 PM
Jon
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In article <W70Hm.28923$zt3.21981@newsfe03.ams2>, brown@eye.invalid
says...
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:58:10 +0000, Tim wrote:
>
> > I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
> > possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
> > network not being available.

>
> Nice. So when are they going to let mobile users make standard calls
> through any network instead of pointlessly having four masts covering
> each area?


One mast does not have the same capacity as 4 masts. It's not just about
coverage, capacity is important too.
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Jon

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:39 PM
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In article <7l6a3jF3b96rhU1@mid.individual.net>, email@here.invalid
says...
> Dave Higton wrote:
> >> Nice. So when are they going to let mobile users make standard calls
> >> through any network instead of pointlessly having four masts covering
> >> each area?

> >
> > When hell freezes over.

>
> Some time before that, but in the history books (er, blogs) still to
> write, there will be national free access to Wi-Fi (or similar wireless
> VoIP internet technology) that anybody can make a voice/vido call
> without cost or contract. Those masts and their owners probably ain't
> going to be doing much in the long term except for maybe the provision
> of mobile television services.


Mobile television is simply not going to happen.
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Jon

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:58 PM
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In article <MPG.255aa520732f41e098972b@news.eternal-september.org>, Jon
<spam@jonparker.plus.com> scribeth thus
>In article <W70Hm.28923$zt3.21981@newsfe03.ams2>, brown@eye.invalid
>says...
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:58:10 +0000, Tim wrote:
>>
>> > I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
>> > possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own provider's
>> > network not being available.

>>
>> Nice. So when are they going to let mobile users make standard calls
>> through any network instead of pointlessly having four masts covering
>> each area?

>
>One mast does not have the same capacity as 4 masts. It's not just about
>coverage, capacity is important too.


One mast -can- if its so designed, carry more than One set of aerials
for other operators.

In fact mast sharing, or "site sharing" is actively encouraged,
sometimes enforced by the planners.

Have a look at this site and you'll see many sites that have more than
the one mobile operator thereon, as well as sharing with broadcasters
and others....

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:27 AM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.255aa54717567eed98972c@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <7l6a3jF3b96rhU1@mid.individual.net>, email@here.invalid
> says...
>> Dave Higton wrote:
>> >> Nice. So when are they going to let mobile users make standard calls
>> >> through any network instead of pointlessly having four masts covering
>> >> each area?
>> >
>> > When hell freezes over.

>>
>> Some time before that, but in the history books (er, blogs) still to
>> write, there will be national free access to Wi-Fi (or similar wireless
>> VoIP internet technology) that anybody can make a voice/vido call
>> without cost or contract. Those masts and their owners probably ain't
>> going to be doing much in the long term except for maybe the provision
>> of mobile television services.

>
> Mobile television is simply not going to happen.
> Regards
> Jon
>
>

and no one's PC is ever going to need more than 640kb of memory

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Old 11-05-2009, 10:57 AM
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Jon wrote:
> In article <hc9g1b$gfe$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> junkman@gmx.co.uk says...
>> Tim has written:
>>> I notice that on the 15th of this month it was at long last made
>>> possible for you to ring 999 even in the event of your own
>>> provider's network not being available.
>>>
>>> Long overdue but it would be nice to know that it *actually* works
>>> rather than just being told that it works.
>>>
>>> Tim

>>
>> If your (uncited) source is credible then you'll just have to take
>> it on trust. If it's not credible then exactly how do you propose
>> that the claim be tested?

>
> By going to an area of known no-coverage, dialling 99 and upon the
> call being answered simply sating "this is a test call, thankyou.
> There is no emergency"


You could have a long wait for an answer if you dial 99. ;-)

Tim

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Old 11-09-2009, 08:16 PM
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In article <7lfpcdF3ba9vgU1@mid.individual.net>, timdownie2003
@obvious.yahoo.co.uk says...
> > By going to an area of known no-coverage, dialling 99 and upon the
> > call being answered simply sating "this is a test call, thankyou.
> > There is no emergency"

>
> You could have a long wait for an answer if you dial 99. ;-)


On the other hand, they are quite tasty!
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