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Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
In article <1191676868.701174.88960@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.c om>, james.jobs@yahoo.com wrote:
> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
Gay?
What're you? 13?
> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> foot.
That sentence really should end the thread right there. If your first
scapegoat for Apple doing something that you feel qualified to say is
wrong despite your almost total lack of hard information on the
decision-making process is Steve Jobs' arrogance, you've indicated that
you really don't want to hear any alternative views.
> Discuss
There's not much to discuss. People invalidated the warranty on a
consumer product and then an update from the vendor had a poor
interaction with it. The vendor warned ahead of time that this was
likely to happen. Anyone who didn't understand this possibility before
the warning is too stupid to use a phone, with or without an 'i' in
front of the name. You seem to have assumed that this is something that
Apple did with intent, but does it not occur to you that maybe there's
something fundamentally dangerous and fundamentally unsupportable about
sequential arbitrary changes to the lowest level operation systems of a
complex device?
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
In article <1191676868.701174.88960@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.c om>,
<james.jobs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> foot.
Yeah...why should they be allowed to create a phone that's restricted
to one carrier?
It's called free enterprise, dummy. I won't buy one because it's tied
to the crappiest cell service available. But I'm also not going to
spend $400 for one, hack it, and then bitch when it doesn't work.
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple hasEVER done
On 6/10/07 14:21, "james.jobs@yahoo.com" wrote:
> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> foot.
>
>
> Discuss
>
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
<james.jobs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> foot.
>
>
> Discuss
>
Hi Discuss,
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
james.jobs@yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> foot.
>
>
> Discuss
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
james.jobs@yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> foot.
>
>
> Discuss
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> james.jobs@yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>>
>> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
>> foot.
>>
>>
>> Discuss
>
> What do you mean by "bricking"?
It means to tamper with a phone and render it useless, beyond repair. So now
it is as useful as a brick. Obviously phones were bigger some years back and
had more of a resemblance to a brick, when the phrase was first coined.
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> james.jobs@yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>>
>> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
>> foot.
>>
>>
>> Discuss
>
> What do you mean by "bricking"?
It means to tamper with a phone and render it useless, beyond repair. So now
it is as useful as a brick. Obviously phones were bigger some years back and
had more of a resemblance to a brick, when the phrase was first coined.
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
On Oct 7, 9:40 am, "Road_HogŪ" <Road_Hog@Road_Hog.com> wrote:
> "Jon" <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
>
> news:MPG.2172a28baa331eaf98acaa@text.usenet.plus.n et...
>
> > james.j...@yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear...
> >> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> >> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> >> foot.
>
> >> Discuss
>
> > What do you mean by "bricking"?
>
> It means to tamper with a phone and render it useless, beyond repair. So now
> it is as useful as a brick. Obviously phones were bigger some years back and
> had more of a resemblance to a brick, when the phrase was first coined.
- Apple new the 1.1.1 update would brick unlocked iPhones
- They could have EASILY coded iTunes to CHECK to see if the firmware
had been altered (and if so, not continue with the update)
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
- Apple new the 1.1.1 update would brick unlocked iPhones
- They could have EASILY coded iTunes to CHECK to see if the firmware
had been altered (and if so, not continue with the update)
The Owner of the iphone could have EASILY decided not to alter his firmware
in the 1st intance
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple hasEVER done
On 7/10/07 10:19, "james.jobs@yahoo.com" wrote:
>>
>>> What do you mean by "bricking"?
>>
>> It means to tamper with a phone and render it useless, beyond repair. So now
>> it is as useful as a brick. Obviously phones were bigger some years back and
>> had more of a resemblance to a brick, when the phrase was first coined.
>
> - Apple new the 1.1.1 update would brick unlocked iPhones
> - They could have EASILY coded iTunes to CHECK to see if the firmware
> had been altered (and if so, not continue with the update)
Why would Apple want to do that? When the owner activated his iPhone, he
agreed to the terms of the license.
If said owner was stupid enough not to read the terms and conditions before
agreeing to them then they deserve everything they get.
Just because you sign up online, it doesn't make the Ts&Cs any less binding
or important to check than if one was signing a contract in a shop
people who cracked their phones are mostly reported damaged now. and you say AT&T 's services are crappy or Apple? maybe you want to use it to comment on it?
why are they restricting the phone to one carrier? you should probably check on BRANDING STRATEGIES and you will understand this
Regards
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Originally Posted by Randall Ainsworth
In article <1191676868.701174.88960@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.c om>,
<james.jobs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> foot.
Yeah...why should they be allowed to create a phone that's restricted
to one carrier?
It's called free enterprise, dummy. I won't buy one because it's tied
to the crappiest cell service available. But I'm also not going to
spend $400 for one, hack it, and then bitch when it doesn't work.
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
Road_HogŪ <Road_Hog@Road_Hog.com> wrote:
> "Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2172a28baa331eaf98acaa@text.usenet.plus.n et...
> > james.jobs@yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear...
> >> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
> >>
> >> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> >> foot.
> >>
> >>
> >> Discuss
> >
> > What do you mean by "bricking"?
>
> It means to tamper with a phone and render it useless, beyond repair. So now
> it is as useful as a brick. Obviously phones were bigger some years back and
> had more of a resemblance to a brick, when the phrase was first coined.
An iPhone would make a lousy brick. Bricks are a standard size and
shaped in such a way as to accomodate mortar. You just try building a
house using iPhones. It'd look nice and shiny, but structurally, you'd
be asking for trouble! It's crazy I tell thee!
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Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
"Wayne Stuart" <me4@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> An iPhone would make a lousy brick. Bricks are a standard size and
> shaped in such a way as to accomodate mortar. You just try building a
> house using iPhones. It'd look nice and shiny, but structurally, you'd
> be asking for trouble! It's crazy I tell thee!
>
> --
Well, if you were stupid enough to buy an iPhone, you'd probably be stupid
enough to try and build a house out of them.
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
"Road_HogŪ" <Road_Hog@Road_Hog.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Wayne Stuart" <me4@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:1i5m83g.16xp032xq8irwN%me4@privacy.net...
>> An iPhone would make a lousy brick. Bricks are a standard size and
>> shaped in such a way as to accomodate mortar. You just try building a
>> house using iPhones. It'd look nice and shiny, but structurally, you'd
>> be asking for trouble! It's crazy I tell thee!
>>
>> --
>
> Well, if you were stupid enough to buy an iPhone, you'd probably be stupid
> enough to try and build a house out of them.
About as stable as a house of sim cards :-)
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Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
Gregory Weston <uce@splook.com> wrote:
> > I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> Gay?
>
> What're you? 13?
No, he's the legendary hopeless Chris Holland, a very unfortunate
character. Just ignore him. He is of no account.
Not sure how your reply got through, though. Most of us on
uk.comp.sys.mac use use a fairly simple filtering technique to guarantee
that we never see what he posts any more (however many new Google Groups
accounts he has to create - they all seem to get canned after a day or
two) or followups to them. Time to tweak a setting perhaps.
>I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
Ignorant sod!. I have no time for people like you who use the word
'gay' in this context.
Let me reword your header more appropriately.
Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most 'James Jobs' thing Apple has
EVER done
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Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
james.jobs@yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear...
> - Apple new the 1.1.1 update would brick unlocked iPhones
> - They could have EASILY coded iTunes to CHECK to see if the firmware
> had been altered (and if so, not continue with the update)
Why should they have to check? If the user wants to screw with the
firmware that's their lookout, not Apples.
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Regards
Jon
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
sabrodiesel2000.2y3ood@no-mx.wirelessforums.org declared for all the
world to hear...
> why are they restricting the phone to one carrier? you should probably
> check on BRANDING STRATEGIES and you will understand this
You should not post again until you can learn to do it properly, I.e.
bottom-posted.
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Regards
Jon
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
What are you on about?
Bottom posting only works if the poster snips all the previous garbage.
Unfortunately most are too dim or lazy to do so and post the whole article
everytime. At least with top posting you get straight to the new posting.
"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> sabrodiesel2000.2y3ood@no-mx.wirelessforums.org declared for all the
> world to hear...
>> why are they restricting the phone to one carrier? you should probably
>> check on BRANDING STRATEGIES and you will understand this
>
> You should not post again until you can learn to do it properly, I.e.
> bottom-posted.
> --
> Regards
> Jon
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
Road_Hog@Road_Hog.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Bottom posting only works if the poster snips all the previous garbage.
> Unfortunately most are too dim or lazy to do so and post the whole article
> everytime.
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple has EVER done
Rest your case where ever you like GayBoy.
You're still a fuckwit, you bottom feeder.
"Jon" <I'm a dick@Dicks R US.com> wrote in message
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> Road_Hog@Road_Hog.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> Bottom posters are dicks, just like jon>
> I rest my case.
>
> --
> Regards
> Jon
Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple hasEVER done
james.jobs@yahoo.com wrote:
> I can't recall Apple ever doing anything more gay than this.
>
> I hope Steve Jobs arrogance hasn't caused Apple to shoot itself in the
> foot.
>
Jobs does seem rather happy, and many people are quite happy with their
iPhones. So, this might, in fact, be the gayest thing Apple has done.
Not sure why you equate "happy" with shooting yourself in the foot, but
this might be some cultural thing.
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Re: Apple bricking iPhones - this is the most gay thing Apple hasEVER done
Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <1191752196.86789@localhost.localdomain>,
> "Pete" <pete@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> The Owner of the iphone could have EASILY decided not to alter his firmware
>> in the 1st intance
>
> Daddy knows best?
Yes. Yes, he does.
Or, put another way: one incurs all the risk when one deliberately does
something that is explicitly unsupported. One is responsible for
anything that happens, good or bad, as a result of such hacking.
Blaming Apple is childish and illogical. The iPhone is obviously still
not running the most stable firmware (as is evidence by many of the
iPhone hackers) so any number of things can cause a massive upgrade like
this to cause things to go sideways.
Hacking is good, and should be encouraged, but smart hackers know they
can't bitch at the world if their hacking does something stupid. It is
something undertaken at one's own risk.
For fuck's sake. It's a /phone/. Go ahead and fuck with it, just don't
fucking bitch about it when it the magic smoke leaves the device and it
turns into a paperweight. Anyone who fucked with their iPhone and is
now blaming Apple when their precious phones crashed are a bunch of
whiners. Real hackers would look at this as just another fun challenge.
Bloody amateurs.
Let's recap:
- Folks bought iPhones knowing that a.) no third-party apps were
currently allowed and b.) it was locked to specific providers.
- Subverting this to unlock features, or allow other providers, or just
to hack is contrary to any agreement that Apple might honour.
Therefore, all responsibility for such subversion is completely upon
anyone /but/ Apple.
If you didn't want the above bullet points to apply to you, you had the
choice of not buying an iPhone. There are other phones out there, I'm
told. Maybe Nokia won't mind at all if you hack on one of their phones
without permission.
If you want to hack, you take responsibility for your actions. This is
especially so as you know full well that Apple does not have to take
your precious hacks into consideration, nor do they have to accept that
your hack is ok because you meant well, or were engaged in Noble Hacking
Intended To Free The Information For The People.
Any failure to understand these basic facts that leads to bitching and
moaning about the Evil Apple Empire are obvious and fine targets for
derision and ridicule.
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