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Old 04-26-2011, 03:52 PM
jhopkins
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Default Best handset for reception


I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my chances
of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best reception
for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual models?
I've tried talking to phone companies and network companies...but
they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept of bad
reception !!

John.




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Old 04-27-2011, 07:58 PM
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"jhopkins" <jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my
> chances
> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best
> reception
> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual
> models?
> I've tried talking to phone companies and network
> companies...but
> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept
> of bad
> reception !!
>
> John.
>
>
>
>
> --
> jhopkins




Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
poor coverage by your SP?

Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.



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Old 04-27-2011, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: Best handset for reception

On 26/04/11 16:52, jhopkins wrote:
> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my chances
> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best reception
> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual models?
> I've tried talking to phone companies and network companies...but
> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept of bad
> reception !!



My experience extends to little more than the few phones I've handled,
so don't give this reply too much weight: I suspect the newer so-called
"smart" phones are not so good for actually making phone calls.

The older Nokia's may have a better signal -eg 3410, 3100, 6230, 6310.

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Old 04-27-2011, 10:00 PM
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'Woody[_3_ Wrote:
> ;219841']"jhopkins" jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk wrote in message
>
> news:jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk...-
>
> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my
> chances
> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best
> reception
> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual
> models?
> I've tried talking to phone companies and network
> companies...but
> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept
> of bad
> reception !!
>
> John.
>
>
>
>
> --
> jhopkins-
>
>
>
> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
> poor coverage by your SP?
>
> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>
>
>
> --
> Woody
>
> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com


Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can sometimes
send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed against one
small window !!




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Old 04-27-2011, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: Best handset for reception

jhopkins <jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk> wrote:
> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my chances
> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best reception
> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual models?
> I've tried talking to phone companies and network companies...but
> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept of bad
> reception !!


A Nokia 6310i is the usual response to what is the best mobile PHONE kind
of question. Of course it's not up to date with web, email, facebook, skype
etc., but it's a darned good phone.

Tim

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Old 04-28-2011, 07:45 AM
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'Tim[_6_ Wrote:
> ;219847']jhopkins jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk wrote:-
> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my
> chances
> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best reception
> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual models?
> I've tried talking to phone companies and network companies...but
> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept of bad
> reception !!-
>
> A Nokia 6310i is the usual response to what is the best mobile PHONE
> kind
> of question. Of course it's not up to date with web, email, facebook,
> skype
> etc., but it's a darned good phone.
>
> Tim


And if I want to add a simple on-line ability ( email/web but no need
for skype/facebook/ a million apps etc) what sort of manufacturer or
model should I be looking at? I'm not crazy about touchscreens,and had
wondered about the Blackberry Pearl or one of the fancier 'candy-bar'
Nokias...any thoughts on what reception might be like with them? Thanks




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Old 04-28-2011, 08:39 AM
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>>
>> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
>> poor coverage by your SP?
>>
>> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
>> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Woody
>>
>> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

>
>Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
>neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can sometimes
>send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed against one
>small window !!
>
>


What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone sure
signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite well...


http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
coverage/sure-signal/index.htm
>
>
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:02 AM
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tony sayer wrote:
>>> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
>>> poor coverage by your SP?
>>>
>>> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
>>> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Woody
>>>
>>> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

>>
>> Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
>> neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can
>> sometimes send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed
>> against one small window !!
>>
>>

>
> What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone
> sure signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite
> well...
>
>
> http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
> coverage/sure-signal/index.htm


A better link.
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal

Only any use if you'er with Vodafone alas but it's now only 20 which seems
a bit of a bargain.

Tim



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Old 04-28-2011, 11:22 AM
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tony sayer;219859 Wrote:
> --
> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
> poor coverage by your SP?
>
> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>
>
>
> --
> Woody
>
> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com-
>
> Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
> neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can sometimes
>
> send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed against one
> small window !!
>
> -
>
> What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone
> sure
> signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite well...
>
>
> http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
> coverage/sure-signal/index.htm-
>
>
> --
> jhopkins-
>
> --
> Tony Sayer


Broadband isn't too bad..I'm getting 7Mb/sec at moment. I've heard of
the Vodaphone gadget...does it actually work for most people? And
does it have any negative effects on the broadband
connection?..we're running a desktop, a laptop and an itouch off the
wireless router at the moment.




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Old 04-28-2011, 11:42 AM
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On 28/04/11 11:02, Tim Downie wrote:
> tony sayer wrote:
>>>> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
>>>> poor coverage by your SP?
>>>>
>>>> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
>>>> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Woody
>>>>
>>>> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
>>>
>>> Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
>>> neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can
>>> sometimes send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed
>>> against one small window !!
>>>
>>>

>>
>> What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone
>> sure signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite
>> well...
>>
>>
>> http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
>> coverage/sure-signal/index.htm

>
> A better link.
> http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal
>
> Only any use if you'er with Vodafone alas but it's now only 20 which
> seems a bit of a bargain.


This seems to be data only. The OP wants to be able to use his phone for
calls and texts, so it's probably not much use.

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Old 04-28-2011, 12:09 PM
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chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28/04/11 11:02, Tim Downie wrote:
>> tony sayer wrote:
>>>>> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
>>>>> poor coverage by your SP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
>>>>> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Woody
>>>>>
>>>>> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
>>>>
>>>> Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
>>>> neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can
>>>> sometimes send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed
>>>> against one small window !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone
>>> sure signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite
>>> well...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
>>> coverage/sure-signal/index.htm

>>
>> A better link.
>> http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal
>>
>> Only any use if you'er with Vodafone alas but it's now only £20 which
>> seems a bit of a bargain.

>
> This seems to be data only. The OP wants to be able to use his phone for
> calls and texts, so it's probably not much use.


I think you're right. It did seem suspiciously cheap for a home " micro
cell" device.

Tim

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Old 04-28-2011, 02:02 PM
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"chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 28/04/11 11:02, Tim Downie wrote:
>> tony sayer wrote:
>>>>> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
>>>>> poor coverage by your SP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
>>>>> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Woody
>>>>>
>>>>> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
>>>>
>>>> Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
>>>> neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can
>>>> sometimes send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed
>>>> against one small window !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone
>>> sure signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite
>>> well...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
>>> coverage/sure-signal/index.htm

>>
>> A better link.
>> http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal
>>
>> Only any use if you'er with Vodafone alas but it's now only 20 which
>> seems a bit of a bargain.

>
> This seems to be data only. The OP wants to be able to use his phone for
> calls and texts, so it's probably not much use.


What makes you think that?
I would have thought it unlikely that they would use the same name for the
new version of the 'sure signal' if it doesn't do everything the old one
did.

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Old 04-28-2011, 02:05 PM
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"jhopkins" <jhopkins.7feed9e@mobilebanter.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> 'Tim[_6_ Wrote:
>> ;219847']jhopkins jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk wrote:-
>> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my
>> chances
>> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best reception
>> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual models?
>> I've tried talking to phone companies and network companies...but
>> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept of bad
>> reception !!-
>>
>> A Nokia 6310i is the usual response to what is the best mobile PHONE
>> kind
>> of question. Of course it's not up to date with web, email, facebook,
>> skype
>> etc., but it's a darned good phone.
>>
>> Tim

>
> And if I want to add a simple on-line ability ( email/web but no need
> for skype/facebook/ a million apps etc) what sort of manufacturer or
> model should I be looking at? I'm not crazy about touchscreens,and had
> wondered about the Blackberry Pearl or one of the fancier 'candy-bar'
> Nokias...any thoughts on what reception might be like with them? Thanks
>


I think the phones that actually have an aerial sticking out the top have
the best reception.

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Old 04-28-2011, 02:15 PM
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On 28/04/11 15:05, Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:
> "jhopkins"<jhopkins.7feed9e@mobilebanter.co.uk > wrote in message
> news:jhopkins.7feed9e@mobilebanter.co.uk...
>>
>> 'Tim[_6_ Wrote:
>>> ;219847']jhopkins jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk wrote:-
>>> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my
>>> chances
>>> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best reception
>>> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual models?
>>> I've tried talking to phone companies and network companies...but
>>> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept of bad
>>> reception !!-
>>>
>>> A Nokia 6310i is the usual response to what is the best mobile PHONE
>>> kind
>>> of question. Of course it's not up to date with web, email, facebook,
>>> skype
>>> etc., but it's a darned good phone.
>>>
>>> Tim

>>
>> And if I want to add a simple on-line ability ( email/web but no need
>> for skype/facebook/ a million apps etc) what sort of manufacturer or
>> model should I be looking at? I'm not crazy about touchscreens,and had
>> wondered about the Blackberry Pearl or one of the fancier 'candy-bar'
>> Nokias...any thoughts on what reception might be like with them? Thanks
>>

>
> I think the phones that actually have an aerial sticking out the top have
> the best reception.


Do you have any proof at all of that?

Radio reception usually relates to receiver sensitivity. Getting more
than 2dB out of an alternative aerial design usually involves masts and
towers and the employment of an aerial rigger

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Old 04-28-2011, 03:04 PM
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On 28/04/11 15:02, Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:
> "chris"<ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ipbjqt$44h$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 28/04/11 11:02, Tim Downie wrote:
>>> tony sayer wrote:
>>>>>> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
>>>>>> poor coverage by your SP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
>>>>>> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Woody
>>>>>>
>>>>>> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
>>>>>
>>>>> Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
>>>>> neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can
>>>>> sometimes send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed
>>>>> against one small window !!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone
>>>> sure signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite
>>>> well...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
>>>> coverage/sure-signal/index.htm
>>>
>>> A better link.
>>> http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal
>>>
>>> Only any use if you'er with Vodafone alas but it's now only 20 which
>>> seems a bit of a bargain.

>>
>> This seems to be data only. The OP wants to be able to use his phone for
>> calls and texts, so it's probably not much use.

>
> What makes you think that?


These bits from the link above:

"After you've installed Sure Signal, up to four people can use it at
once. So one of you might be checking out your favourite sites while
others are updating Facebook or sharing videos on YouTube."

No mention of being able to make a call or send texts.

"To enjoy great 3G reception, you'll need:

Fixed-line broadband with a speed of at least 1MB

At least one Vodafone 3G mobile phone (with 3G activated) or a
Vodafone internet dongle"

Explicit requirement for 3G capable device, thus only capable of doing
3G stuff.

> I would have thought it unlikely that they would use the same name for the
> new version of the 'sure signal' if it doesn't do everything the old one
> did.


Having seen this for the first time, I can't comment on the relative
differences. And your assumption is not correct: companies often change
the specs of new versions down rather up.

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Old 04-28-2011, 06:53 PM
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chris used his keyboard to write :
> On 28/04/11 11:02, Tim Downie wrote:
>> tony sayer wrote:
>>>>> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
>>>>> poor coverage by your SP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
>>>>> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Woody
>>>>>
>>>>> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
>>>>
>>>> Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
>>>> neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can
>>>> sometimes send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed
>>>> against one small window !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone
>>> sure signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite
>>> well...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
>>> coverage/sure-signal/index.htm

>>
>> A better link.
>> http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal
>>
>> Only any use if you'er with Vodafone alas but it's now only 20 which
>> seems a bit of a bargain.

>
> This seems to be data only. The OP wants to be able to use his phone for
> calls and texts, so it's probably not much use.


It's for 3G voice and data.

Never sure why someone would want to use it for data...as they may as
well just use the associated broadband line.

When they work, they're very very good. If you have a problem, their
support is atrocious.



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Old 04-28-2011, 09:07 PM
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Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, chris chose
the tried and tested strategy of:

> No mention of being able to make a call or send texts.


No mention of *not* being able to, either. Come on, the 12 year olds who
write all this marketing guff don't use phones to make calls on, so don't
expect to see a mention of it on Vodafone's site.

> Explicit requirement for 3G capable device, thus only capable of doing
> 3G stuff.


Voice calls are "3G stuff".

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Old 04-29-2011, 09:14 AM
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In article <jhopkins.7ff41ff@mobilebanter.co.uk>, jhopkins <jhopkins.7ff
41ff@mobilebanter.co.uk> scribeth thus
>
>tony sayer;219859 Wrote:
>> --
>> Is this out in the country and generally poor coverage, or just
>> poor coverage by your SP?
>>
>> Look on the OfCom Sitefinder to see if there is another SP with a
>> mast nearer than your present SP and consdier switching.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Woody
>>
>> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com-
>>
>> Out in the country...I'm currently with O2 , my wife with Vodaphone,
>> neighbours with Orange...all useless....on a good day I can sometimes
>>
>> send a text if I stand on tiptoe with phone pressed against one
>> small window !!
>>
>> -
>>
>> What's your Broadband like?, if thats tolerable then get a Vodafone
>> sure
>> signal unit, its like your own base station they do work quite well...
>>
>>
>> http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/p...s/network-and-
>> coverage/sure-signal/index.htm-
>>
>>
>> --
>> jhopkins-
>>
>> --
>> Tony Sayer

>
>Broadband isn't too bad..I'm getting 7Mb/sec at moment. I've heard of
>the Vodaphone gadget...does it actually work for most people? And
>does it have any negative effects on the broadband
>connection?..we're running a desktop, a laptop and an itouch off the
>wireless router at the moment.
>
>
>


I know of three places that have them, and in each instance they work
fine and don't clobber the broadband. One outfit had one and reckoned it
was "crap" and didn't work. Reason was that they hadn't registered their
handsets to it and that most all mobiles there were on T-Mobile;!......
>
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:18 AM
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In article <ipbsqe$gc4$4@dont-email.me>, William Black <blackusenet@gmail.com>
scribeth thus
>On 28/04/11 15:05, Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:
>> "jhopkins"<jhopkins.7feed9e@mobilebanter.co.uk > wrote in message
>> news:jhopkins.7feed9e@mobilebanter.co.uk...
>>>
>>> 'Tim[_6_ Wrote:
>>>> ;219847']jhopkins jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk wrote:-
>>>> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my
>>>> chances
>>>> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best reception
>>>> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual models?
>>>> I've tried talking to phone companies and network companies...but
>>>> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept of bad
>>>> reception !!-
>>>>
>>>> A Nokia 6310i is the usual response to what is the best mobile PHONE
>>>> kind
>>>> of question. Of course it's not up to date with web, email, facebook,
>>>> skype
>>>> etc., but it's a darned good phone.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>
>>> And if I want to add a simple on-line ability ( email/web but no need
>>> for skype/facebook/ a million apps etc) what sort of manufacturer or
>>> model should I be looking at? I'm not crazy about touchscreens,and had
>>> wondered about the Blackberry Pearl or one of the fancier 'candy-bar'
>>> Nokias...any thoughts on what reception might be like with them? Thanks
>>>

>>
>> I think the phones that actually have an aerial sticking out the top have
>> the best reception.

>
>Do you have any proof at all of that?
>
>Radio reception usually relates to receiver sensitivity. Getting more
>than 2dB out of an alternative aerial design usually involves masts and
>towers and the employment of an aerial rigger


Here is the first lesson.

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Old 04-29-2011, 11:49 AM
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"tony sayer" <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote in message news:u2XYziBeJouNFwYn@bancom.co.uk...
> In article <ipbsqe$gc4$4@dont-email.me>, William Black <blackusenet@gmail.com>
> scribeth thus
>>On 28/04/11 15:05, Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:
>>> "jhopkins"<jhopkins.7feed9e@mobilebanter.co.uk > wrote in message
>>> news:jhopkins.7feed9e@mobilebanter.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> 'Tim[_6_ Wrote:
>>>>> ;219847']jhopkins jhopkins.7fcf35f@mobilebanter.co.uk wrote:-
>>>>> I live in a poor reception area but would like to maximise my
>>>>> chances
>>>>> of mobile phone use by choosing the handset with the best reception
>>>>> for weak signals. Any suggestions for either makes or actual models?
>>>>> I've tried talking to phone companies and network companies...but
>>>>> they're all based in the middle of cities so have no concept of bad
>>>>> reception !!-
>>>>>
>>>>> A Nokia 6310i is the usual response to what is the best mobile PHONE
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of question. Of course it's not up to date with web, email, facebook,
>>>>> skype
>>>>> etc., but it's a darned good phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> And if I want to add a simple on-line ability ( email/web but no need
>>>> for skype/facebook/ a million apps etc) what sort of manufacturer or
>>>> model should I be looking at? I'm not crazy about touchscreens,and had
>>>> wondered about the Blackberry Pearl or one of the fancier 'candy-bar'
>>>> Nokias...any thoughts on what reception might be like with them? Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think the phones that actually have an aerial sticking out the top have
>>> the best reception.

>>
>>Do you have any proof at all of that?
>>
>>Radio reception usually relates to receiver sensitivity. Getting more
>>than 2dB out of an alternative aerial design usually involves masts and
>>towers and the employment of an aerial rigger

>
> Here is the first lesson.
>
> It is a good thing to receiveth but it is also most blessed to giveth...
> --
> Tony Sayer


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On 28/04/2011 22:07, alexd wrote:
> Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, chris chose
> the tried and tested strategy of:
>
>> No mention of being able to make a call or send texts.

>
> No mention of *not* being able to, either. Come on, the 12 year olds who
> write all this marketing guff don't use phones to make calls on, so don't
> expect to see a mention of it on Vodafone's site.


Maybe. If that's really the case, then that's very poor marketing as I
certainly wouldn't buy it if I needed improved reception for my phone.

>> Explicit requirement for 3G capable device, thus only capable of doing
>> 3G stuff.

>
> Voice calls are "3G stuff".


Really? How come I can make calls when there's no 3G, then?


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Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, chris chose
the tried and tested strategy of:

> On 28/04/2011 22:07, alexd wrote:
>> Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, chris
>> chose the tried and tested strategy of:


>>> Explicit requirement for 3G capable device, thus only capable of doing
>>> 3G stuff.

>>
>> Voice calls are "3G stuff".

>
> Really? How come I can make calls when there's no 3G, then?


Presumably your phone falls back to 2G.

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"chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ipea6h$gh5$1@dont-email.me...
> On 28/04/2011 22:07, alexd wrote:
>> Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, chris chose
>> the tried and tested strategy of:
>>
>>> No mention of being able to make a call or send texts.

>>
>> No mention of *not* being able to, either. Come on, the 12 year olds who
>> write all this marketing guff don't use phones to make calls on, so don't
>> expect to see a mention of it on Vodafone's site.

>
> Maybe. If that's really the case, then that's very poor marketing as I certainly wouldn't buy it if I needed improved reception
> for my phone.
>
>>> Explicit requirement for 3G capable device, thus only capable of doing
>>> 3G stuff.

>>
>> Voice calls are "3G stuff".

>
> Really? How come I can make calls when there's no 3G, then?


Where did he say you couldn't?

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Old 04-30-2011, 05:42 AM
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Thanks everyone for all your comments. We've decided to give
Suresignal a try...our small local mobile phone shop is so confident
that he can get it to work that he's offered us an " all your money
back/cancel the contract " deal if it doesn't....too good to turn down!
Will let you know how it goes.




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Old 04-30-2011, 05:00 PM
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On 2011-04-30 14:06:42 +0100, Phil W Lee said:

> jhopkins <jhopkins.801909e@mobilebanter.co.uk> considered Sat, 30 Apr
> 2011 06:42:49 +0100 the perfect time to write:
>
>>
>> Thanks everyone for all your comments. We've decided to give
>> Suresignal a try...our small local mobile phone shop is so confident
>> that he can get it to work that he's offered us an " all your money
>> back/cancel the contract " deal if it doesn't....too good to turn down!
>> Will let you know how it goes.

>
> Of course, under the legal requirement of fitness for purpose, that is
> the minimum they should offer.


Of course it will work. I have one and it wasn't difficult to set up
and works perfectly. I can only assume that those who complain are
clueless and couldn't boil a kettle!


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Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, zeitgeist
chose the tried and tested strategy of:

> Of course it will work. I have one and it wasn't difficult to set up
> and works perfectly. I can only assume that those who complain are
> clueless and couldn't boil a kettle!


From looking at Vodafone's forum it looks like it sets up an IPsec tunnel to
Vodafone to transport data in. There are plenty of ways this can be foiled
by buggy NAT implementations in routers or tampering by ISPs so I wouldn't
be too surprised if some people found it just doesn't work.

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Old 05-02-2011, 07:48 AM
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on 01/05/2011, alexd supposed :
> Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, zeitgeist
> chose the tried and tested strategy of:
>
>> Of course it will work. I have one and it wasn't difficult to set up
>> and works perfectly. I can only assume that those who complain are
>> clueless and couldn't boil a kettle!

>
> From looking at Vodafone's forum it looks like it sets up an IPsec tunnel to
> Vodafone to transport data in. There are plenty of ways this can be foiled
> by buggy NAT implementations in routers or tampering by ISPs so I wouldn't
> be too surprised if some people found it just doesn't work.


Indeed.

It also gets foiled by new IP address allocations - Vodafone seem to
"maintain" a list of allowed UK ip address ranges. If yours falls
outside this list, it won't work......it's quite a toil persuading them
to add to the list.



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In message <ipbsqe$gc4$4@dont-email.me>
William Black <blackusenet@gmail.com> wrote:

> Radio reception usually relates to receiver sensitivity.


You refer to a radio receiver. The thing that receives the radio
signal is the antenna or aerial. The receiver can only process
the signal received by the antenna.

> Getting more than 2dB out of an alternative aerial design usually
> involves masts and towers and the employment of an aerial rigger


Your idea assumes that the antenna has not been compromised by
other factors, e.g. proximity to a lossy lump of meat or to
conductive objects such as electronic components.

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Old 05-06-2011, 06:48 PM
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If anyone is still interested, my wife got the Suresignal gadget and it
works a treat! She has gone from no bars to full signal...and the
only hiccups in setting it up were minor ones. So now I just have to
get O2 off my back ( only another 15 months to go) and I can join the
ranks of mobile phone users. Yippee!!!




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In article <jhopkins.80a225c@mobilebanter.co.uk>, jhopkins <jhopkins.80a
225c@mobilebanter.co.uk> scribeth thus
>
>If anyone is still interested, my wife got the Suresignal gadget and it
>works a treat! She has gone from no bars to full signal...


No real surprise there, the ones we know of do work over some distance.
I'm just wondering what frequencies they do use as if you had more then
the one or two around how would it know what channel to use?..


>and the
>only hiccups in setting it up were minor ones. So now I just have to
>get O2 off my back ( only another 15 months to go) and I can join the
>ranks of mobile phone users. Yippee!!!
>
>
>
>
>--
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I'm surprised that O2 and other network operators don't do a similar
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