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Old 06-27-2007, 06:29 PM
Mary Pegg
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Default Best UK PAYG SIM for use in Spain?

As subject - looking for minimal costs for
(a) most important, sending texts back to UK
(b) receiving incoming calls from UK.

Will be getting a separate Spanish SIM / phone for local calls.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:57 PM
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Mary Pegg <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

> As subject - looking for minimal costs for
> (a) most important, sending texts back to UK
> (b) receiving incoming calls from UK.
>
> Will be getting a separate Spanish SIM / phone for local calls.


Are the UK mobile companies deciding to ignore the EU directive
requesting them (under threat of compelling them) to drop prices?

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Old 06-27-2007, 09:24 PM
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
> Mary Pegg <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> As subject - looking for minimal costs for
>> (a) most important, sending texts back to UK
>> (b) receiving incoming calls from UK.
>>
>> Will be getting a separate Spanish SIM / phone for local calls.

>
> Are the UK mobile companies deciding to ignore the EU directive
> requesting them (under threat of compelling them) to drop prices?



Won't be until Autumn that we might see the prices drop.


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Old 06-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
> > Mary Pegg <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As subject - looking for minimal costs for
> >> (a) most important, sending texts back to UK
> >> (b) receiving incoming calls from UK.
> >>
> >> Will be getting a separate Spanish SIM / phone for local calls.

> >
> > Are the UK mobile companies deciding to ignore the EU directive
> > requesting them (under threat of compelling them) to drop prices?

>
>
> Won't be until Autumn that we might see the prices drop.


Dragged kicking and screaming comes to mind...

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Old 06-28-2007, 07:57 AM
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"Mary Pegg" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> As subject - looking for minimal costs for
> (a) most important, sending texts back to UK
> (b) receiving incoming calls from UK.
>
> Will be getting a separate Spanish SIM / phone for local calls.
> --
> "Checking identity papers is a complete waste of time. If anyone can
> be counted on to have valid papers, it will be the terrorists".



Global card with UK number free incoming calls in spain. Texts 25p back to
UK or O2 thay have a euro bolt on.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:11 AM
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On Jun 27, 6:29 pm, Mary Pegg <inva...@invalid.com> wrote:
> As subject - looking for minimal costs for
> (a) most important, sending texts back to UK
> (b) receiving incoming calls from UK.
>
> Will be getting a separate Spanish SIM / phone for local calls.
> --
> "Checking identity papers is a complete waste of time. If anyone can
> be counted on to have valid papers, it will be the terrorists".


There are already much cheaper options than the reductions that should
follow the EU announcements, which others mention on this thread

O2 payg, registered for Chosen Country - Spain.

http://www.o2.co.uk/international/tr...encountryspain

This costs £5 a month, then you have free incoming calls, outgoing are
25p. Using a separate callback service would allow even cheaper
outgoing calls. Take a look at ReturnCall; although the website still
says 2p to UK landlines, it's actually 3p now according to the
announcement at the start of the call.

For your Spanish SIM, the ordinary tariffs are not wonderful, but
there are some favourite number options. At the moment I'd suggest
Vodafone Spain's 60 for 1 minutes option, useful with a calling card
or Sipbroker access number. You might also consider this add-on

http://forum.niftylist.co.uk/index.php?topic=2846.0

For sending cheap texts, look into one of the mobile Java programs
that send the equivalent over wap/grps, such as mobisms, vgsmail,
vyke, voipbuster. These cost a few cents (Vyke cheapest at 2c US),
then the network cost for under 2k of data.


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Old 06-28-2007, 10:21 AM
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On Jun 28, 10:11 am, andy <andy.gg...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> O2 payg, registered for Chosen Country - Spain.
>
> http://www.o2.co.uk/international/tr...oabroad/chosen...
>
> This costs £5 a month, then you have free incoming calls, outgoing are
> 25p. Using a separate callback service would allow even cheaper
> outgoing calls. Take a look at ReturnCall; although the website still
> says 2p to UK landlines, it's actually 3p now according to the
> announcement at the start of the call.
>



and I forgot to say - for back-up to ReturnCall, look into Voipcheap
sms callback, usable with either UK or Spanish SIM once they are
registered on the account

in addition, if you set up a Spanish Voipcheap account, you can use
their local callthrough access number to make calls for an onward cost
of 1.19c a minute to about 40 countries' landlines, etc - useful for
long calls from the Voda 60 minutes option


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Old 06-28-2007, 11:37 AM
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:21:37 -0700, andy <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 28, 10:11 am, andy <andy.gg...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> O2 payg, registered for Chosen Country - Spain.
>>
>> http://www.o2.co.uk/international/tr...oabroad/chosen...
>>
>> This costs £5 a month, then you have free incoming calls, outgoing are
>> 25p. Using a separate callback service would allow even cheaper
>> outgoing calls. Take a look at ReturnCall; although the website still
>> says 2p to UK landlines, it's actually 3p now according to the
>> announcement at the start of the call.
>>

>
>
>and I forgot to say - for back-up to ReturnCall, look into Voipcheap
>sms callback, usable with either UK or Spanish SIM once they are
>registered on the account
>
>in addition, if you set up a Spanish Voipcheap account, you can use
>their local callthrough access number to make calls for an onward cost
>of 1.19c a minute to about 40 countries' landlines, etc - useful for
>long calls from the Voda 60 minutes option

I've just thought of another route. If you have cheap access to local
numbers in Spain you could call a sipbroker PSTN access number. Then,
once 'in' call your voxalot number. That number could be set to
divert calls from your specific mobile number to any service you want
- e.g. the 0808 number for 18185 for example.... then dial wherever
you want.
With the appropriate settings on your mobile phone you should be able,
with the inclusion of pauses, be able to call your voxalot number with
a single keypress (on a Nokia phone anyway).
Alternatively, if you have wap access in Spain, use the voxalot
callback service with the providers of your choice.
Refer to:
www.voxalot.com
www.sipbroker.com


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Old 06-28-2007, 06:23 PM
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On Jun 28, 11:37 am, Brian A <no_spam_bca1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:21:37 -0700, andy <andy.gg...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jun 28, 10:11 am, andy <andy.gg...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> >> O2 payg, registered for Chosen Country - Spain.

>
> >>http://www.o2.co.uk/international/tr...oabroad/chosen...

>
> >> This costs £5 a month, then you have free incoming calls, outgoing are
> >> 25p. Using a separate callback service would allow even cheaper
> >> outgoing calls. Take a look at ReturnCall; although the website still
> >> says 2p to UK landlines, it's actually 3p now according to the
> >> announcement at the start of the call.

>
> >and I forgot to say - for back-up to ReturnCall, look into Voipcheap
> >sms callback, usable with either UK or Spanish SIM once they are
> >registered on the account

>
> >in addition, if you set up a Spanish Voipcheap account, you can use
> >their local callthrough access number to make calls for an onward cost
> >of 1.19c a minute to about 40 countries' landlines, etc - useful for
> >long calls from the Voda 60 minutes option

>
> I've just thought of another route. If you have cheap access to local
> numbers in Spain you could call a sipbroker PSTN access number. Then,
> once 'in' call your voxalot number. That number could be set to
> divert calls from your specific mobile number to any service you want
> - e.g. the 0808 number for 18185 for example.... then dial wherever
> you want.
> With the appropriate settings on your mobile phone you should be able,
> with the inclusion of pauses, be able to call your voxalot number with
> a single keypress (on a Nokia phone anyway).
> Alternatively, if you have wap access in Spain, use the voxalot
> callback service with the providers of your choice.
> Refer to:www.voxalot.comwww.sipbroker.com


Indeed, and I did drop a hint about Sipbroker, but thought I wouldn't
add more without a further query

I think it would be trickier to use 18185 as an ongoing destination
when the origin is a Spanish SIM, unless the forwarded VoIP account
has replaced a registered caller ID onto the call it.

However, ReturnCall callback supports caller ID, and the second leg
can be a 18185 Voipcheap or Voipbuster number, or a DID pointed at
another forwarded VoIP account ...

And I should have also mentioned Voxalot, as you suggest. Especially
if one can also use a landline for some incoming calls, then free
calls between two landlines on some VoIP accounts

I hope the range of options isn't making things confusing - there are
certainly several ways to make calls very cheaply, potentially even
under 10p between 2 mobiles ...


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