BT ACR charge lawful?

I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the *amount* of
money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.

The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by
telephone companies about the initial cost of implementation.

BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and excludes ACR
from value/feature packs.

Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?

It happens that Gareth formulated :
> I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the *amount* of
> money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.
>
> The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
> modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by telephone
> companies about the initial cost of implementation.
>
> BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and excludes ACR
> from value/feature packs.
>
> Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?

How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.

"Jono" wrote in message
news:mn.1d327dc623cdd932.88534@blueyonder.invalid. ..
>
>It happens that Gareth formulated :
>> I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the *amount*
>> of money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.
>>
>> The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
>> modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by
>> telephone companies about the initial cost of implementation.
>>
>> BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and excludes
>> ACR from value/feature packs.
>>
>> Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?
>
>How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.

£13 a quarter!

On 03/06/2012 21:23, Gareth wrote:
> I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the *amount*
> of money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.
>
> The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
> modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by
> telephone companies about the initial cost of implementation.
>
> BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and excludes
> ACR from value/feature packs.
>
> Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?
>
>
>
>



I presume that all they do is bring up the customer's record on a
computer screen and tick a box for ACR. I can't imagine there being a
black box marked "ACR" at the exchange, will surely all be done in the
software.

Gareth has brought this to us :
> "Jono" wrote in message news:mn.1d327dc623cdd932.88534@blueyonder.invalid. ..
>>
>>It happens that Gareth formulated :
>>> I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the *amount*
>>> of money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.
>>>
>>> The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
>>> modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by
>>> telephone companies about the initial cost of implementation.
>>>
>>> BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and excludes
>>> ACR from value/feature packs.
>>>
>>> Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?
>>
>>How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.
>
> £13 a quarter!

Not a bad mark up.

"Gareth" <hotmail.com@dgareth_remove.com> wrote in message
news:4fcbc7cc$0$10743$5b6aafb4@news.zen.co.uk...
> I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the *amount*
> of money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.
>
> The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
> modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by
> telephone companies about the initial cost of implementation.
>
> BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and excludes
> ACR from value/feature packs.
>
> Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?


ACR?
TLA
Ah - anonymous call rejection.
TTFN

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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:59:00 +0100, "David WE Roberts"
<nospam@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Gareth" <hotmail.com@dgareth_remove.com> wrote in message
>news:4fcbc7cc$0$10743$5b6aafb4@news.zen.co.uk.. .
>> I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the *amount*
>> of money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.
>>
>> The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
>> modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by
>> telephone companies about the initial cost of implementation.
>>
>> BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and excludes
>> ACR from value/feature packs.
>>
>> Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?
>
>
>ACR?
>TLA
>Ah - anonymous call rejection.
>TTFN

Also Alternative Carrier Routing, so its as bad as "DRM" as having
two meanings in the same broad context

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

On 03/06/2012 22:10, Jono wrote:
> It happens that Gareth formulated :
>> I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the
>> *amount* of money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.
>>
>> The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
>> modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by
>> telephone companies about the initial cost of implementation.
>>
>> BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and
>> excludes ACR from value/feature packs.
>>
>> Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?
>
> How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.

You sure about that? - http://users.plus.net/QL:692459AC

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on Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Plusnet Support Team <support@plus.net> remarked:

>> How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.
>
>You sure about that? - http://users.plus.net/QL:692459AC

There's an awful lot of 24p's in that table (8p/month).

Is it one of the £1.50 per quarter (50p/month) ones?
--
Roland Perry

In message <hY6dnUTN5IVOpFLSnZ2dnUVZ8gydnZ2d@brightview.co.uk >, Plusnet
Support Team <support@plus.net> writing at 12:06:37 in his/her local
time opines:-
>On 03/06/2012 22:10, Jono wrote:
>> How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.

>You sure about that? - http://users.plus.net/QL:692459AC

Can't tell. Which one is ACR?

--
Roy Brown 'Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be
Kelmscott Ltd useful, or believe to be beautiful' William Morris

On 06/06/2012 15:07, Roy Brown wrote:
> In message <hY6dnUTN5IVOpFLSnZ2dnUVZ8gydnZ2d@brightview.co.uk >, Plusnet
> Support Team <support@plus.net> writing at 12:06:37 in his/her local
> time opines:-
>> On 03/06/2012 22:10, Jono wrote:
>>> How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.
>
>> You sure about that? - http://users.plus.net/QL:692459AC
>
> Can't tell. Which one is ACR?

Good point, I also neglected to notice they were quarterly charges. I'll
try and find out but I suspect it's one of the more expensive given how
much we charge for it compared to our other calling features ...

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|Support Home & Business @
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Roland Perry explained on 06/06/2012 :
> on Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Plusnet Support Team <support@plus.net> remarked:
>
>>> How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.
>>
>>You sure about that? - http://users.plus.net/QL:692459AC
>
> There's an awful lot of 24p's in that table (8p/month).
>
> Is it one of the £1.50 per quarter (50p/month) ones?

Positive.

<http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/pricing/loadProductPriceDetails.do?data=fRnGbapg%2BDdUlytK NPty42LhXIIrB4uUUPoqazmOIzYlMnGHsqdC0vzO163bJmh34D 91D7M0q8u%2F%0AIlSgtIFAKw%3D%3D>

Plusnet Support Team submitted this idea :
> On 03/06/2012 22:10, Jono wrote:
>> It happens that Gareth formulated :
>>> I'm not convinced, having glanced at the EU directive, that the
>>> *amount* of money BT is charging for ACR is lawful.
>>>
>>> The initial aim and direction was for the service to be free. This was
>>> modified to reasonable cost presumably following representations by
>>> telephone companies about the initial cost of implementation.
>>>
>>> BT charges more for ACR than any other subscription service and
>>> excludes ACR from value/feature packs.
>>>
>>> Has this been picked up before in terms of a formal complaint to Ofcom?
>>
>> How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.
>
> You sure about that? - http://users.plus.net/QL:692459AC

Positive

<http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/pricing/loadProductPriceDetails.do?data=fRnGbapg%2BDdUlytK NPty42LhXIIrB4uUUPoqazmOIzYlMnGHsqdC0vzO163bJmh34D 91D7M0q8u%2F%0AIlSgtIFAKw%3D%3D>

(supersedes <mn.35547dc677fc5f25.88534@blueyonder.invalid>)

Roland Perry explained on 06/06/2012 :
> on Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Plusnet Support Team <support@plus.net> remarked:
>
>>> How much do they charge? Openreach charge CPs 8p per month for ACR.
>>
>>You sure about that? - http://users.plus.net/QL:692459AC

Positive.

<http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/pricing/loadProductPriceDetails.do?data=fRnGbapg%2BDdUlytK NPty42LhXIIrB4uUUPoqazmOIzYlMnGHsqdC0vzO163bJmh34D 91D7M0q8u%2F%0AIlSgtIFAKw%3D%3D>

>
> There's an awful lot of 24p's in that table (8p/month).

They're all the current prices (check the dates)

>
> Is it one of the £1.50 per quarter (50p/month) ones?

No, it's in a different table. Still 24p per quarter. All the £1.50
ones are old prices...check the dates.