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Old 11-07-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default chavs won't like the iphone

imagine the tantrums when they discover they can't record their happy
slapping attacks on their shiny new iphone. (!)


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Old 11-08-2007, 10:31 AM
He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be
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"the dog from that film you saw" <dsb@removethisportionbtinternet.com> wrote
in message news:5pena9Fqtq75U1@mid.individual.net...
> imagine the tantrums when they discover they can't record their happy
> slapping attacks on their shiny new iphone. (!)
>


Why?

Does it not record video then?




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Old 11-08-2007, 10:36 AM
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"He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> wrote in
message news:5pg6stFraacfU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "the dog from that film you saw" <dsb@removethisportionbtinternet.com>
> wrote
> in message news:5pena9Fqtq75U1@mid.individual.net...
>> imagine the tantrums when they discover they can't record their happy
>> slapping attacks on their shiny new iphone. (!)
>>

>
> Why?
>
> Does it not record video then?


Nope



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Old 11-08-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: chavs won't like the iphone

By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
video. Might work as a phone though!!!


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Old 11-08-2007, 10:52 AM
He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be
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"Gizmo." <Nothome@right.now> wrote in message
news:2FBYi.4236$7_6.3507@newsfet01.ams...
>
> "He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> wrote in
> message news:5pg6stFraacfU1@mid.individual.net...
> >
> > "the dog from that film you saw" <dsb@removethisportionbtinternet.com>
> > wrote
> > in message news:5pena9Fqtq75U1@mid.individual.net...
> >> imagine the tantrums when they discover they can't record their happy
> >> slapping attacks on their shiny new iphone. (!)
> >>

> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Does it not record video then?

>
> Nope


And the media and expectation was that the iPhone was going to be the best
phone out there! Im glad I didn't wait for it. Anyone who wants one is
welcome to it !!

Aparently the following is true:

No vibrate alert
No battery removal is possible (unable to swap battery)
No video record
Crap camera with only 2mpixel and no autofocus (no flash??)

Does anyone else want to add to the 'won't do' list??
There must be other things its failing on too.....



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Old 11-08-2007, 11:26 AM
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In message 1194519025.407278.240300@z24g2000prh.googlegroups. com,
CS <colinstone@hotmail.com> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:

> By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
> phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
> video. Might work as a phone though!!!


From what I've seen, and from playing with an iPod 'Touch' which I think
uses the same UI. The interface IS very nice, slick and intuitive. Not
nearly enough to convince me to buy one though.
It's not enough being able to tell it to do things in a fancy and stylish
way. It has to be able to DO those things well, and from what I have read,
it doesn't!

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Old 11-08-2007, 12:09 PM
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On 8/11/07 10:50, CS wrote:
> By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
> phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
> video. Might work as a phone though!!!
>


Has /anything/ good ever come out of the gadget show?

The iPhone may be limited compared with other phones but a) it's
designed to be usable and b) it's designed to incite hatred from the M$
fanboys.

It will be a roaring success on both counts...

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Old 11-08-2007, 12:36 PM
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"He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> writes:

>
> And the media and expectation was that the iPhone was going to be the best
> phone out there! Im glad I didn't wait for it. Anyone who wants one is
> welcome to it !!
>
> Aparently the following is true:
>
> No vibrate alert
> No battery removal is possible (unable to swap battery)
> No video record
> Crap camera with only 2mpixel and no autofocus (no flash??)
>
> Does anyone else want to add to the 'won't do' list??
> There must be other things its failing on too.....
>

No 3G.
No 3rd party apps

Don't think it has a GPS either.

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Old 11-08-2007, 01:15 PM
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i thought the £269 plus 12 months @ £50 would have been a good enough reason
for chavs not to like it too!

can you get a fake burberry phone case for it?


"David Kennedy"
<davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindo fferyoubastard.invalid>
wrote in message news:13j5v4b5a8a5ge3@corp.supernews.com...
> On 8/11/07 10:50, CS wrote:
>> By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
>> phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
>> video. Might work as a phone though!!!
>>

>
> Has /anything/ good ever come out of the gadget show?
>
> The iPhone may be limited compared with other phones but a) it's designed
> to be usable and b) it's designed to incite hatred from the M$ fanboys.
>
> It will be a roaring success on both counts...
>
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>
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:14 PM
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It's a minimum 18 month contract to get the iPhone on O2.

D

Kevin Cole wrote:
> i thought the £269 plus 12 months @ £50 would have been a good enough reason
> for chavs not to like it too!
>
> can you get a fake burberry phone case for it?
>
>
> "David Kennedy"
> <davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindo fferyoubastard.invalid>
> wrote in message news:13j5v4b5a8a5ge3@corp.supernews.com...
>> On 8/11/07 10:50, CS wrote:
>>> By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
>>> phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
>>> video. Might work as a phone though!!!
>>>

>> Has /anything/ good ever come out of the gadget show?
>>
>> The iPhone may be limited compared with other phones but a) it's designed
>> to be usable and b) it's designed to incite hatred from the M$ fanboys.
>>
>> It will be a roaring success on both counts...
>>
>> --
>> David Kennedy
>>
>> http://www.anindianinexile.com

>
>


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Old 11-08-2007, 05:10 PM
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"He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> wrote in
message news:5pg83oFr4g2lU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Gizmo." <Nothome@right.now> wrote in message
> news:2FBYi.4236$7_6.3507@newsfet01.ams...
>>
>> "He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> wrote in
>> message news:5pg6stFraacfU1@mid.individual.net...
>> >
>> > "the dog from that film you saw" <dsb@removethisportionbtinternet.com>
>> > wrote
>> > in message news:5pena9Fqtq75U1@mid.individual.net...
>> >> imagine the tantrums when they discover they can't record their happy
>> >> slapping attacks on their shiny new iphone. (!)
>> >>
>> >
>> > Why?
>> >
>> > Does it not record video then?

>>
>> Nope

>
> And the media and expectation was that the iPhone was going to be the best
> phone out there! Im glad I didn't wait for it. Anyone who wants one is
> welcome to it !!
>
> Aparently the following is true:
>
> No vibrate alert


Hopeless - a feature for 15 years (Motorola Elite).

> No battery removal is possible (unable to swap battery)


Utterly hopeless - if the phone can't be opened with tools then it is dead
when the battery fails.
a feature for > 20 years (many makes), but early Technophones couldn't.

> No video record


less of an issue for me, but obviously if you have just paid £££ for
supposedly the most advanced gadget phone in the world you are going to be
dissappointed with this result.

> Crap camera with only 2mpixel and no autofocus (no flash??)


2Mp OK, but no focus [zoom, light or flash] - tch! F ratio and ASA
equivalent?

>
> Does anyone else want to add to the 'won't do' list??
> There must be other things its failing on too.....


No third party applications - prioprietary only.
Can't unlock [yet]
Poor data rate.
Decent deal with O2, because O2 has to revenue share on calls*
Change out of $1,000 SIM free see
http://www.jvbdigital.com/jvb.asp?cu...itle&title=575
eyc.

>
>





* OTOH does Apple think O2 will honour this or were they dreaming?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:16 PM
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"He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> wrote in
message news:5pg83oFr4g2lU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Gizmo." <Nothome@right.now> wrote in message
> news:2FBYi.4236$7_6.3507@newsfet01.ams...
>>
>> "He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> wrote in
>> message news:5pg6stFraacfU1@mid.individual.net...
>> >
>> > "the dog from that film you saw" <dsb@removethisportionbtinternet.com>
>> > wrote
>> > in message news:5pena9Fqtq75U1@mid.individual.net...
>> >> imagine the tantrums when they discover they can't record their happy
>> >> slapping attacks on their shiny new iphone. (!)
>> >>
>> >
>> > Why?
>> >
>> > Does it not record video then?

>>
>> Nope

>
> And the media and expectation was that the iPhone was going to be the best
> phone out there! Im glad I didn't wait for it. Anyone who wants one is
> welcome to it !!
>
> Aparently the following is true:
>
> No vibrate alert
> No battery removal is possible (unable to swap battery)
> No video record
> Crap camera with only 2mpixel and no autofocus (no flash??)
>
> Does anyone else want to add to the 'won't do' list??
> There must be other things its failing on too.....
>

Unable to send a text to multiple recipients apparently...
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:27 PM
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"Phil" <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Don't think it has a GPS either.
>
> Phil



Does it not have GPS?



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Old 11-08-2007, 11:40 PM
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"He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> wrote in
message news:5phkbjFrefmpU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Phil" <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
> newsv7iksc3t0.fsf@GLKD2485705.GREENLNK.NET...
>> Don't think it has a GPS either.
>>
>> Phil

>
>
> Does it not have GPS?


Nope

Basically the iPhone is a 3 year out of date toy.



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Old 11-08-2007, 11:45 PM
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"David Kennedy"
<davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindo fferyoubastard.invalid>
wrote in message news:13j5v4b5a8a5ge3@corp.supernews.com...
> On 8/11/07 10:50, CS wrote:
>> By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
>> phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
>> video. Might work as a phone though!!!
>>

>
> Has /anything/ good ever come out of the gadget show?


Well the female presenter has a nice pair of tits. )

> The iPhone may be limited compared with other phones but a) it's designed
> to be usable


Usable to who ?
Its features are desperately lacking. What it does have is way out of date.
Hmm .. but it does have the neat touch screen ... which will soon be covered
in finger-prints and earwax ;o)

> and b) it's designed to incite hatred from the M$ fanboys.


Nah ... it'll just be hated.

> It will be a roaring success on both counts...


I predict it'll bomb.
It's an over-priced, over-hyped sack of crap. Not helped by Apple locking it
to O2. So those wanting an unlocked handset will either have to run the
guantlet of risking the handset being locked when they try to unlock it. Or
they'll just buy it from France at the end of November.



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Old 11-08-2007, 11:46 PM
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David Kennedy
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> wrote:


> On 8/11/07 10:50, CS wrote:
> > By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
> > phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
> > video. Might work as a phone though!!!
> >

>
> Has /anything/ good ever come out of the gadget show?


From what I saw of it, the Nokia won because it was easier to send a
text on the Nokia whilst bouncing on the end of a bungee cord.

Nothing like a real-world useage test, eh?
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:46 AM
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On 8/11/07 23:45, Gizmo. wrote:
> "David Kennedy"
> <davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindo fferyoubastard.invalid>
> wrote in message news:13j5v4b5a8a5ge3@corp.supernews.com...
>> On 8/11/07 10:50, CS wrote:

>
>> It will be a roaring success on both counts...

>
> I predict it'll bomb.


How much actual folding cash are we talking about here to back up the
prediction ?

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Old 11-09-2007, 06:47 AM
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On 8/11/07 23:46, SteveH wrote:
> David Kennedy
> <davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindo fferyoubastard.invalid
>> wrote:

>
>> On 8/11/07 10:50, CS wrote:
>>> By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
>>> phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
>>> video. Might work as a phone though!!!
>>>

>> Has /anything/ good ever come out of the gadget show?

>
> From what I saw of it, the Nokia won because it was easier to send a
> text on the Nokia whilst bouncing on the end of a bungee cord.
>
> Nothing like a real-world useage test, eh?


The Gadget Show always does nothing like a real world test.

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Old 11-09-2007, 07:27 AM
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hebeouthebe@privacy.net declared for all the world to hear...
> > Don't think it has a GPS either.


> Does it not have GPS?


No, no GPS.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:11 PM
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Sorry, I meant 18 !

Gone are the days of 12 month hey!

cheers, Dave

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"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
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> It's a minimum 18 month contract to get the iPhone on O2.
>
> D
>
> Kevin Cole wrote:
>> i thought the £269 plus 12 months @ £50 would have been a good enough
>> reason for chavs not to like it too!
>>
>> can you get a fake burberry phone case for it?
>>
>>
>> "David Kennedy"
>> <davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindo fferyoubastard.invalid>
>> wrote in message news:13j5v4b5a8a5ge3@corp.supernews.com...
>>> On 8/11/07 10:50, CS wrote:
>>>> By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
>>>> phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
>>>> video. Might work as a phone though!!!
>>>>
>>> Has /anything/ good ever come out of the gadget show?
>>>
>>> The iPhone may be limited compared with other phones but a) it's
>>> designed to be usable and b) it's designed to incite hatred from the M$
>>> fanboys.
>>>
>>> It will be a roaring success on both counts...
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> http://www.anindianinexile.com

>>



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Old 11-09-2007, 02:47 PM
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:50:25 -0800, CS <colinstone@hotmail.com> wrote:

>By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
>phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
>video. Might work as a phone though!!!


It also got a kicking on Working Lunch, when compared with the N95
due to poor texting and camera.
However, they then went on to say they wanted a phone without all the
extras anyway.


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Old 11-09-2007, 05:19 PM
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<pjlusenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:50:25 -0800, CS <colinstone@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
>>phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
>>video. Might work as a phone though!!!

>
> It also got a kicking on Working Lunch, when compared with the N95
> due to poor texting and camera.
> However, they then went on to say they wanted a phone without all the
> extras anyway.


So they wanted an out of date phone with a price tag of £259 (?) plus an 18
month contract.

I'm going to assume the £259 is the stupidity tax ;o)



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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:19:09 -0000, "Gizmo." <Nothome@right.now> wrote:

>
><pjlusenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:ajs8j35d5fdfk73th0hrr9qt0lnan4ojp3@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:50:25 -0800, CS <colinstone@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>By all accounts the Iphone is a triumph of marketing of a crappy
>>>phone. Did not do well in the Gadget Show - rubbish pics and no
>>>video. Might work as a phone though!!!

>>
>> It also got a kicking on Working Lunch, when compared with the N95
>> due to poor texting and camera.
>> However, they then went on to say they wanted a phone without all the
>> extras anyway.

>
>So they wanted an out of date phone with a price tag of £259 (?) plus an 18
>month contract.
>
>I'm going to assume the £259 is the stupidity tax ;o)
>

Sorry, I wasn't clear.
They dismissed both phones and produced some large, ancient 'flip'
phones that must have been 5+ years old.
I think(?) they were joking.


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Old 11-09-2007, 09:03 PM
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:10:38 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
<nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Decent deal with O2, because O2 has to revenue share on calls*
>Change out of $1,000 SIM free see
>http://www.jvbdigital.com/jvb.asp?cu...itle&title=575


Bargain!

"BUT... a WARNING!
This Unlocked Apple iPhone 8GB is based on Firmware version 1.0.2,

Apple have released a new software update, v1.1.1
do not update to this version, and neither use the Restore command.

This will VOID your warranty
even after downgrading you won't be able to unlock your phone at the
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:55 AM
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"Gavin" <gavin@mindless.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:40:02 -0000, "Gizmo." <Nothome@right.now> wrote:
>
>>
>>"He Not Be In He Not, He Be Out He Be" <hebeouthebe@privacy.net> wrote in
>>message news:5phkbjFrefmpU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Phil" <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> newsv7iksc3t0.fsf@GLKD2485705.GREENLNK.NET...
>>>> Don't think it has a GPS either.
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> Does it not have GPS?

>>
>>Nope
>>
>>Basically the iPhone is a 3 year out of date toy.
>>

>
>
> You missed the fact it's in a shiny designer box


That's very true ... I apologise for my oversight ;o)



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