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Old 02-12-2007, 10:59 PM
Paul Welsh
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Default Company mobile - any downsides?

I've been offered a company mobile by my employer. I haven't accepted
so far because I'm under contract, but that expires at the end of
March. I was concerned about whether this would be seen as a taxable
benefit but it appears not - http://www.workbox.demon.co.uk/B11.htm -
so I guess I'd be a fool not to take up this offer.

I expect I could port my number over and, if I changed jobs I'm
confident they'd let me port the number back (unless I left under a
cloud I suppose).

That's the only issue that concerns me a bit. In some ways it would
be good to keep my number (which I've had for years) under my control,
but I can't see an easy way around it.

Has anyone else saved themselves a few quid by accepting a company
mobile and ended up regretting it?


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Old 02-12-2007, 11:28 PM
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Paul Welsh <pwelsh@uk2.net> wrote:

> I've been offered a company mobile by my employer. I haven't accepted
> so far because I'm under contract, but that expires at the end of
> March. I was concerned about whether this would be seen as a taxable
> benefit but it appears not - http://www.workbox.demon.co.uk/B11.htm -
> so I guess I'd be a fool not to take up this offer.
>
> I expect I could port my number over and, if I changed jobs I'm
> confident they'd let me port the number back (unless I left under a
> cloud I suppose).
>
> That's the only issue that concerns me a bit. In some ways it would
> be good to keep my number (which I've had for years) under my control,
> but I can't see an easy way around it.
>
> Has anyone else saved themselves a few quid by accepting a company
> mobile and ended up regretting it?


I wouldn't port my personal number over to a company phone. Not unless
you want to be contactable 24/7/365.

Although I do make private calls during the working day on my company
phone, I have kept my private phone (on a T-Mobile SIM only contract
with Web'n'Walk add-on) for use at weekends and in the evening when I
*don't* want my stores to contact me.
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Old 02-13-2007, 01:51 AM
R. Mark Clayton
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"Paul Welsh" <pwelsh@uk2.net> wrote in message
news:1171321180.678946.313300@l53g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I've been offered a company mobile by my employer. I haven't accepted
> so far because I'm under contract, but that expires at the end of
> March. I was concerned about whether this would be seen as a taxable
> benefit but it appears not - http://www.workbox.demon.co.uk/B11.htm -
> so I guess I'd be a fool not to take up this offer.
>
> I expect I could port my number over and, if I changed jobs I'm
> confident they'd let me port the number back (unless I left under a
> cloud I suppose).
>
> That's the only issue that concerns me a bit. In some ways it would
> be good to keep my number (which I've had for years) under my control,
> but I can't see an easy way around it.


Keep your number on a pay and go or very cheap contract, moving it to the
same network as your employer, and then having it on divert to your company
one.

>
> Has anyone else saved themselves a few quid by accepting a company
> mobile and ended up regretting it?
>




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Old 02-13-2007, 07:06 AM
Jon
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pwelsh@uk2.net declared for all the world to hear...
> I've been offered a company mobile by my employer. I haven't accepted
> so far because I'm under contract, but that expires at the end of
> March. I was concerned about whether this would be seen as a taxable
> benefit but it appears not - http://www.workbox.demon.co.uk/B11.htm -
> so I guess I'd be a fool not to take up this offer.
>
> I expect I could port my number over and, if I changed jobs I'm
> confident they'd let me port the number back (unless I left under a
> cloud I suppose).
>
> That's the only issue that concerns me a bit. In some ways it would
> be good to keep my number (which I've had for years) under my control,
> but I can't see an easy way around it.


Put your personal number on PAYG when the contract expires. Take the
offer of a work phone with a new number. Best to keep work and personal
as far apart as possible :-)
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:07 AM
Jon
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nospamclayton@btinternet.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Keep your number on a pay and go or very cheap contract, moving it to the
> same network as your employer, and then having it on divert to your company
> one.


Divert calls? On PAYG? Bzzzzzzzzzzzt!
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:09 AM
Andy Pandy
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"Paul Welsh" <pwelsh@uk2.net> wrote in message
news:1171321180.678946.313300@l53g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I've been offered a company mobile by my employer. I haven't accepted
> so far because I'm under contract, but that expires at the end of
> March. I was concerned about whether this would be seen as a taxable
> benefit but it appears not - http://www.workbox.demon.co.uk/B11.htm -
> so I guess I'd be a fool not to take up this offer.
>
> I expect I could port my number over and, if I changed jobs I'm
> confident they'd let me port the number back (unless I left under a
> cloud I suppose).


Depending on what kind of contract your company has, you may not be able to port the
number. With my employer if you get a company mobile you get a number in their range.

> That's the only issue that concerns me a bit. In some ways it would
> be good to keep my number (which I've had for years) under my control,
> but I can't see an easy way around it.
>
> Has anyone else saved themselves a few quid by accepting a company
> mobile and ended up regretting it?


Everyone at our place who has done it has saved themselves a fortune. We have to
reimburse the company for personal calls but their rates are quite low, and you only
pay for what you use, unlike nearly all personal contracts where you have to predict
your monthly use and agree to be charged for 200 mins or whatever. People who were
paying £30 a month or more now generally pay about a fiver!

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Old 02-13-2007, 10:15 AM
Paul Welsh
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Default Re: Company mobile - any downsides?

On 13 Feb, 07:07, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
> nospamclay...@btinternet.com declared for all the world to hear...
>
> > Keep your number on a pay and go or very cheap contract, moving it to the
> > same network as your employer, and then having it on divert to your company
> > one.

>
> Divert calls? On PAYG? Bzzzzzzzzzzzt!
> --
> Regards
> Jon


Yeah, that's the problem isn't it? If I keep my number but don't
divert then effectively I either carry around 2 phones or leave a
voicemail giving callers my work mobile number. Pretty soon they'll
stop ringing the old number.

Am I right in thinking that there isn't really such a thing as a cheap
contract - what are we talking about, £25 pm? I suppose at the end of
the day diverting on payg would be OK so long as it was only a few
calls per month.


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Old 02-13-2007, 06:43 PM
Ivor Jones
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"Paul Welsh" <pwelsh@uk2.net> wrote in message
news:1171321180.678946.313300@l53g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com
> I've been offered a company mobile by my employer. I
> haven't accepted so far because I'm under contract, but
> that expires at the end of March. I was concerned about
> whether this would be seen as a taxable benefit but it
> appears not - http://www.workbox.demon.co.uk/B11.htm - so
> I guess I'd be a fool not to take up this offer.
>
> I expect I could port my number over and, if I changed
> jobs I'm confident they'd let me port the number back
> (unless I left under a cloud I suppose).
>
> That's the only issue that concerns me a bit. In some
> ways it would be good to keep my number (which I've had
> for years) under my control, but I can't see an easy way
> around it.


Personally I like to keep work and personal phones entirely separate. I
have a PAYG phone I use for work (they won't pay for a phone but do
reimburse me for calls, I don't make many) but I do get a lot of incoming
calls as I am sometimes on call.

No way I'd want anyone in the company to have my personal number, the work
phone is switched off when I'm not at work/on call. Yes it means carrying
two phones, but it's a small price to pay for my privacy when I don't want
work calling me.

Ivor



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Old 02-13-2007, 10:50 PM
Jon Pitts
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"Paul Welsh" <pwelsh@uk2.net> wrote in message
news:1171321180.678946.313300@l53g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I've been offered a company mobile by my employer. I haven't accepted
> so far because I'm under contract, but that expires at the end of
> March. I was concerned about whether this would be seen as a taxable
> benefit but it appears not - http://www.workbox.demon.co.uk/B11.htm -
> so I guess I'd be a fool not to take up this offer.
>
> I expect I could port my number over and, if I changed jobs I'm
> confident they'd let me port the number back (unless I left under a
> cloud I suppose).
>


If your company is with Orange, you could always port your personal number
onto Line 2 with its own account. One of the more useful applications of
Line 2!!

Regards

Jon.

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Old 02-14-2007, 07:21 AM
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:43:50 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

>No way I'd want anyone in the company to have my personal number, the work
>phone is switched off when I'm not at work/on call. Yes it means carrying
>two phones, but it's a small price to pay for my privacy when I don't want
>work calling me.


I would get hold of a cheap handset such as a Nokia 1100 or similar
and a free/cheap SIM card such as a Virgin. I recently bough a Nokia
3100 (almost new) on Ebay for £6.50. Port your number over to Virgin
and keep the card for incoming use on the cheap handset. Virgin are
quite lax about how often you need to make or receive a call to keep
the card going. Our family has a couple of Virgin cards which came
with £5 free credit a few years ago and we have never topped them up.

Yes, it is inconvenient to have two handsets but you can port your
valuable personal number out from Virgin and back to whichever network
you require with very little trouble. I would never combine my private
number with work in any form, not even as a line two number on an
Orange account.


HTH.



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Old 02-14-2007, 07:45 AM
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"Paul Welsh" <pwelsh@uk2.net> wrote in message
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On 13 Feb, 07:07, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
> nospamclay...@btinternet.com declared for all the world to hear...
>
> > Keep your number on a pay and go or very cheap contract, moving it to
> > the
> > same network as your employer, and then having it on divert to your
> > company
> > one.

>
> Divert calls? On PAYG? Bzzzzzzzzzzzt!
> --
> Regards
> Jon


Yeah, that's the problem isn't it? If I keep my number but don't
divert then effectively I either carry around 2 phones or leave a
voicemail giving callers my work mobile number. Pretty soon they'll
stop ringing the old number.

Am I right in thinking that there isn't really such a thing as a cheap
contract - what are we talking about, £25 pm? I suppose at the end of
the day diverting on payg would be OK so long as it was only a few
calls per month.

You can get a T-Mobile sim only contract that costs £7.50 per month. You get
50 minutes a month but no texts. Because you don't get a phone with it, it
has no minimum term. More details here...
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/eshop/pers...m-plans-sim.do ...you could
port your personal number to this and stick it in a sim-free/unlocked
handset and as far as I know will be able to divert.
HTH
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:31 AM
Paul Welsh
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On 14 Feb, 07:45, "Steve Dulieu" <steve.dul...@greenyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> You can get a T-Mobile sim only contract that costs £7.50 per month.


This is a good plan, though their Everyone PAYG price plan has 12p per
minute charges so I'd get 62.5 mins rather than 50 for £7.50. Will it
divert on this rate though?


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Old 02-16-2007, 07:31 AM
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"Paul Welsh" <pwelsh@uk2.net> wrote in message
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On 14 Feb, 07:45, "Steve Dulieu" <steve.dul...@greenyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>>
>> You can get a T-Mobile sim only contract that costs £7.50 per month.


>This is a good plan, though their Everyone PAYG price plan has 12p per
>minute charges so I'd get 62.5 mins rather than 50 for £7.50. Will it
>divert on this rate though?


You will not be able to divert a PAY phone...
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:45 AM
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"Steve Dulieu" <steve.dulieu@greenyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Welsh" <pwelsh@uk2.net> wrote in message
> news:1171589494.168064.312080@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> On 14 Feb, 07:45, "Steve Dulieu" <steve.dul...@greenyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can get a T-Mobile sim only contract that costs £7.50 per month.

>
>>This is a good plan, though their Everyone PAYG price plan has 12p per
>>minute charges so I'd get 62.5 mins rather than 50 for £7.50. Will it
>>divert on this rate though?

>
> You will not be able to divert a PAY phone...


That should, of course read, you will not be able to divert a PAYG phone.
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