Effect of cell phone usage on semen analysis in men attending infertility clinic

got phone/wireless in your lap? :-/ oooh er....

Effect of cell phone usage on semen analysis in men attending infertility
clinic: an observational study.

Agarwal A, Deepinder F, Sharma RK, Ranga G, Li J.

Reproductive Research Center, Glickman Urological Institute and Department of Obstetrics-Gynecology, Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, Ohio.

OBJECTIVE: To investigate the effect of cell phone use on various markers of semen quality. DESIGN: Observational study. SETTING: Infertility clinic. PATIENT(S): Three hundred sixty-one men undergoing infertility evaluation were divided into four groups according to their active cell phone use: group A: no use; group B: <2 h/day; group C: 2-4 h/day; and group D: >4 h/day. INTERVENTION(S): None. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S): Sperm parameters (volume, liquefaction time, pH, viscosity, sperm count, motility, viability, and morphology). RESULT(S): The comparisons of mean sperm count, motility, viability, and normal morphology among four different cell phone user groups were statistically significant. Mean sperm motility, viability, and normal morphology were significantly different in cell phone user groups within two sperm count groups. The laboratory values of the above four sperm parameters decreased in all four cell phone user groups as the duration of daily exposure to cell phones increased. CONCLUSION(S): Use of cell phones decrease the semen quality in men by decreasing the sperm count, motility, viability, and normal morphology. The decrease in sperm parameters was dependent on the duration of daily exposure to cell phones and independent of the initial semen quality.

PMID: 17482179 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

"Lenny" <lenny@say.no.to.wifi> wrote in message
news:f24sbn$4ov$1@news.datemas.de...
> got phone/wireless in your lap? :-/ oooh er....
>
> Effect of cell phone usage on semen analysis in men attending infertility
> clinic: an observational study.
>
> Agarwal A, Deepinder F, Sharma RK, Ranga G, Li J.
>
> Reproductive Research Center, Glickman Urological Institute and Department
> of Obstetrics-Gynecology, Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, Ohio.

Note that the men concerned were already suffering infertility problems and
that no control group based on men with normal fertility was mentioned.

That is don't believe a word of it unless they start again and do a *proper*
test.

Lenny can you at least find reports where the test method is sensible and
carried out correctly.
With the ones you have posted so far it makes you look thi^V naive.

On May 12, 6:09 pm, Lenny <l...@say.no.to.wifi> wrote:

> Effect of cell phone scares on wankers

you appear to have been affected.

On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:30:05 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

>
> "Lenny" <lenny@say.no.to.wifi> wrote in message
> news:f24sbn$4ov$1@news.datemas.de...
>> got phone/wireless in your lap? :-/ oooh er....
>>
>> Effect of cell phone usage on semen analysis in men attending
>> infertility clinic: an observational study.
>>
>> Agarwal A, Deepinder F, Sharma RK, Ranga G, Li J.
>>
>> Reproductive Research Center, Glickman Urological Institute and
>> Department of Obstetrics-Gynecology, Cleveland Clinic Foundation,
>> Cleveland, Ohio.
>
> Note that the men concerned were already suffering infertility problems
> and that no control group based on men with normal fertility was
> mentioned.
>
> That is don't believe a word of it unless they start again and do a
> *proper* test.

Like I said to you before:

head in sand, out of, asap.

> Lenny can you at least find reports where the test method is sensible and
> carried out correctly.
> With the ones you have posted so far it makes you look thi^V naive.

I don't take orders and especially not dumb ones.
There is nothing wrong with that study as read from the abstract.

On Sat, 12 May 2007 10:54:46 -0700, PhilT wrote:

> On May 12, 6:09 pm, Lenny <l...@say.no.to.wifi> wrote:
>
>> Effect of cell phone scares on wankers
>
> you appear to have been affected.

At least I don't have shit-for-brains like you have.

On May 12, 7:00 pm, Lenny <l...@say.no.to.wifi> wrote:

> At least I don't have shit-for-brains like you have.

the evidence is to the contrary. Go and chop up some combine
harvesters and leave us in peace.

Think of all the radiation you are exposing yourself too by using a
computer.

"Lenny" <lenny@say.no.to.wifi> wrote in message
news:f24sbn$4ov$1@news.datemas.de
> got phone/wireless in your lap? :-/ oooh er....
>
> Effect of cell phone usage on semen analysis in men
> attending infertility
> clinic: an observational study.

[snip]

He's off again..!

Ivor

"Lenny" <lenny@say.no.to.wifi> wrote in message
news:f24vb7$c8t$2@news.datemas.de
> On Sat, 12 May 2007 10:54:46 -0700, PhilT wrote:
>
> > On May 12, 6:09 pm, Lenny <l...@say.no.to.wifi> wrote:
> >
> > > Effect of cell phone scares on wankers
> >
> > you appear to have been affected.
>
> At least I don't have shit-for-brains like you have.

It appears you have no brains at all. Maybe the RF got to the remaining
cell and let what little information that was in there out..?

Now, as you claim to have killfiled me, I wonder if you'll reply..?


Ivor

On Sat, 12 May 2007 17:59:08 UTC, Lenny <lenny@say.no.to.wifi> wrote:

> There is nothing wrong with that study as read from the abstract.

So you are saying that:

a) There is something wrong if you read more than the abstract

or

b) You haven't actually read anything but the abstract

Please confirm.

--
[ 7'ism - a condition by which the sufferer experiences an inability
to give concise answers, express reasoned argument or opinion.
Usually accompanied by silly noises and gestures - incurable, early
euthanasia recommended. ]

On May 12, 7:15 pm, "Ivor Jones" <i...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> "Lenny" <l...@say.no.to.wifi> wrote in message
>
> news:f24sbn$4ov$1@news.datemas.de
>
> > got phone/wireless in your lap? :-/ oooh er....
>
> > Effect of cell phone usage on semen analysis in men
> > attending infertility
> > clinic: an observational study.
>
> [snip]
>
> He's off again..!
>
> Ivor

well, if they've had the snip, they're bound to be infertile

Lenny wrote:
> got phone/wireless in your lap? :-/ oooh er....
>
> Effect of cell phone usage on semen analysis in men attending infertility
> clinic: an observational study.

<snip>

From the piece you post, the study doesn't establish causality.

The correlation may be infertility with job stress and there may
also be a correlation between the level of job stress and cell phone
usage. In fact, similar correlations have been shown in previous
studies.

This problem of interpretation can be demonstrated by concluding
that, as all observations of traffic hold-ups have a policeman
attending as a common factor, then they are always caused by the
police being present.

regards, Ian

On May 13, 11:47 am, Ian Smith <news0107REMOVEC...@orrery.e4ward.com>
wrote:
> Lenny wrote:
> > got phone/wireless in your lap? :-/ oooh er....
>
> > Effect of cell phone usage on semen analysis in men attending infertility
> > clinic: an observational study.
>
> <snip>
>
> From the piece you post, the study doesn't establish causality.
>
> The correlation may be infertility with job stress and there may
> also be a correlation between the level of job stress and cell phone
> usage. In fact, similar correlations have been shown in previous
> studies.
>
> This problem of interpretation can be demonstrated by concluding
> that, as all observations of traffic hold-ups have a policeman
> attending as a common factor, then they are always caused by the
> police being present.
>
> regards, Ian

Compared to one of Lenny's previous quotes, about what Prof Laithwaite
hypothesised about moths in 1969, and consequent effects of wi-fi and
mobile phones on humans, this one at least has some connection with
reality.

According to Wikipedia

"Although Laithwaite is best known for his ideas concerning
gyroscopes, he also held an idea concerning moths. It was that they
communicate via radiation. He persisted in this belief even after the
pheromone, which they actually use, had been isolated and could even
be bought 'over-the-counter'. "