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Old 01-10-2008, 10:16 AM
Andy Davidson
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Default Geographic number on UK mobile.


hi,

Around ten years ago, Orange used to offer mobile service on
an London Geographic number.

I would find it useful to have this service right now, and I
am wondering if anyone here knows whether any of the big operators
offer such a service today ?

Even if it is sold by one of the major networks, I wonder whether
it is instead cheaper to get a Geographic number forwarded to a
conventional mobile & 07 number (~10p/min ish ?)...

Any ideas welcome,
Andy


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Old 01-10-2008, 11:45 AM
Theo Markettos
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Default Re: Geographic number on UK mobile.

Andy Davidson <$andy$@nosignal.org> wrote:
> Even if it is sold by one of the major networks, I wonder whether
> it is instead cheaper to get a Geographic number forwarded to a
> conventional mobile & 07 number (~10p/min ish ?)...


A slightly off-the-wall idea, but I wonder if there are any foreign networks
that have cheaper roaming costs than to call a UK mobile? So, for example,
if you had a US mobile (which already comes with a geographic US number)
calling it from the UK would be roughly free. So diverting a UK geo number
to a US geo number would be roughly free too (maybe a penny a minute or
less). You'd then have to find one that roams in the UK for less than
10p/min for incoming calls. Maybe that wouldn't work for a US mobile, but
perhaps there's a country it would work for - maybe one of the
'international roaming' SIMs?

Theo

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Old 01-10-2008, 12:21 PM
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"Andy Davidson" <$andy$@nosignal.org> wrote in message
news:4785fe9a$0$8411$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk
: : hi,
: :
: : Around ten years ago, Orange used to offer mobile
: : service on
: : an London Geographic number.
: :
: : I would find it useful to have this service right now,
: : and I
: : am wondering if anyone here knows whether any of the
: : big operators offer such a service today ?
: :
: : Even if it is sold by one of the major networks, I
: : wonder whether it is instead cheaper to get a
: : Geographic number forwarded to a conventional mobile &
: : 07 number (~10p/min ish ?)...
: :
: : Any ideas welcome,
: : Andy

You could get a free Sipgate VoIP account and forward that to your mobile.
No terminal equipment required if it's going to be on permanent divert.

Cost is 10p/min for the diverted leg of the call.

Ivor


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Old 01-10-2008, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Geographic number on UK mobile.

On 10 Jan, 13:21, "Ivor Jones" <i...@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
> "Andy Davidson" <$an...@nosignal.org> wrote in message
>
> news:4785fe9a$0$8411$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk
> : : hi,
> : :
> : : Around ten years ago, Orange used to offer mobile
> : : service on
> : : an London Geographic number.
> : :
> : : I would find it useful to have this service right now,
> : : and I
> : : am wondering if anyone here knows whether any of the
> : : big operators offer such a service today ?
> : :
> : : Even if it is sold by one of the major networks, I
> : : wonder whether it is instead cheaper to get a
> : : Geographic number forwarded to a conventional mobile &
> : : 07 number (~10p/min ish ?)...
> : :
> : : Any ideas welcome,
> : : Andy
>
> You could get a free Sipgate VoIP account and forward that to your mobile.
> No terminal equipment required if it's going to be on permanent divert.
>
> Cost is 10p/min for the diverted leg of the call.
>
> Ivor


If you're doing a lot of call divert, it might be worth getting a
Fixed Cellular Terminal with 'Follow-Me' functionality.

If you have a sharer sim with free calls between the sharers, you just
plug the unit into your landline and calls can be forwarded to your
mobile (both your landline and mobile phones can ring simultaneously
if you wish).

Cost is therefore just the cost of a sharer sim (£12.50 to £15
depending on tariff/network) once you have purchased the unit.

I sell the Telecom FM CellFax for (£165 + postage) + vat, although
personally I use the more expensive Burnside P910 (as I can text it
and find the cli of who's rung me if I miss a call!).

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Business Telecoms

(my email address is my full name with no dot at my business name dot
com)

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Old 01-10-2008, 07:17 PM
Jon
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Default Re: Geographic number on UK mobile.

In article <4785fe9a$0$8411$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, $andy
$@nosignal.org says...
>
> hi,
>
> Around ten years ago, Orange used to offer mobile service on
> an London Geographic number.
>
> I would find it useful to have this service right now, and I
> am wondering if anyone here knows whether any of the big operators
> offer such a service today ?


Orange still do it, it's called Locally Integrated Number, you pay a one
off set up fee and a per minute rate for incoming calls. Codes available
I think are 0207 and 0161 and possibly one other which I can't remember.
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: Geographic number on UK mobile.

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:17:24 -0000, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
wrote:

>In article <4785fe9a$0$8411$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, $andy
>$@nosignal.org says...
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> Around ten years ago, Orange used to offer mobile service on
>> an London Geographic number.
>>
>> I would find it useful to have this service right now, and I
>> am wondering if anyone here knows whether any of the big operators
>> offer such a service today ?

>
>Orange still do it, it's called Locally Integrated Number, you pay a one
>off set up fee and a per minute rate for incoming calls. Codes available
>I think are 0207 and 0161 and possibly one other which I can't remember.


Surely you mean 020 & 0161?
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:03 AM
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"PeterT" <peter.thomas8899@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:r3eeo3lc1qh4cctnnccoqiqjdue864qnt3@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:17:24 -0000, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <4785fe9a$0$8411$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, $andy
>>$@nosignal.org says...
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> Around ten years ago, Orange used to offer mobile service on
>>> an London Geographic number.
>>>
>>> I would find it useful to have this service right now, and I
>>> am wondering if anyone here knows whether any of the big operators
>>> offer such a service today ?

>>
>>Orange still do it, it's called Locally Integrated Number, you pay a one
>>off set up fee and a per minute rate for incoming calls. Codes available
>>I think are 0207 and 0161 and possibly one other which I can't remember.

>
> Surely you mean 020 & 0161?


Took a bit of searhcing but I found it buried on one of Orange's PDFs, pay
monthy price guide at:

..
http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla...ce_guides.html


"If you don't want people to know you are using a mobile phone, you can have
a local number. Available for London,
Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester dialling codes No initial charge.
Monthly charges: a number local to your
billing address £17.63 a number not local to your billing address £32.25
cost per incoming call (pm) 10p"



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Old 01-11-2008, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: Geographic number on UK mobile.

Obsidian Order wrote:

> "If you don't want people to know you are using a mobile phone, you can have
> a local number. Available for London,
> Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester dialling codes No initial charge.
> Monthly charges: a number local to your
> billing address £17.63 a number not local to your billing address £32.25
> cost per incoming call (pm) 10p"


At that price, forget it. A voip.co.uk or Sipgate local number is
cheaper, better, more flexible and can be used with any mobile network.

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Old 01-11-2008, 10:23 AM
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"Iain" <no-one@hairydog.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1200049673.33802.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
> Obsidian Order wrote:
>
>> "If you don't want people to know you are using a mobile phone, you can
>> have a local number. Available for London,
>> Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester dialling codes No initial charge.
>> Monthly charges: a number local to your
>> billing address £17.63 a number not local to your billing address £32.25
>> cost per incoming call (pm) 10p"

>
> At that price, forget it. A voip.co.uk or Sipgate local number is cheaper,
> better, more flexible and can be used with any mobile network.


Agreed, the only downside is outgoing CLI.



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Old 01-11-2008, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Geographic number on UK mobile.

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:03:09 +0000, Obsidian Order wrote:

> "If you don't want people to know you are using a mobile phone, you can
> have a local number. Available for London, Birmingham, Liverpool and
> Manchester dialling codes No initial charge. Monthly charges: a number
> local to your billing address £17.63 a number not local to your billing
> address £32.25 cost per incoming call (pm) 10p"


There must be a reason they don't want people to use it - any idea what
it is?

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Old 01-11-2008, 06:00 PM
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"Obsidian Order" <obsidian.order@tesco.net> wrote in
message news:13oefn64aumpj18@news.supernews.com

[snip]

: : "If you don't want people to know you are using a
: : mobile phone, you can have a local number. Available
: : for London,
: : Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester dialling codes No
: : initial charge. Monthly charges: a number local to your
: : billing address £17.63 a number not local to your
: : billing address £32.25 cost per incoming call (pm) 10p"

Cheaper to use Sipgate then, no monthly charge and still 10p/min for the
calls.

Ivor


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Old 01-11-2008, 06:01 PM
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"Obsidian Order" <obsidian.order@tesco.net> wrote in
message news:13oeke3a6iijh2e@news.supernews.com
: : "Iain" <no-one@hairydog.co.uk> wrote in message
: : news:1200049673.33802.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
: : : Obsidian Order wrote:
: : :
: : : : "If you don't want people to know you are using a
: : : : mobile phone, you can have a local number.
: : : : Available for London,
: : : : Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester dialling codes
: : : : No initial charge. Monthly charges: a number local
: : : : to your
: : : : billing address £17.63 a number not local to your
: : : : billing address £32.25 cost per incoming call (pm)
: : : : 10p"
: : :
: : : At that price, forget it. A voip.co.uk or Sipgate
: : : local number is cheaper, better, more flexible and
: : : can be used with any mobile network.
: :
: : Agreed, the only downside is outgoing CLI.

I don't send outgoing CLI so that's that one dealt with ;-)

Ivor


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Old 01-11-2008, 07:11 PM
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Obsidian Order wrote:

> Agreed, the only downside is outgoing CLI.


Well, if people then choose to call you back on your mobile number,
that's a few pence per minute saved.

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Old 01-12-2008, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Geographic number on UK mobile.

In article <r3eeo3lc1qh4cctnnccoqiqjdue864qnt3@4ax.com>,
peter.thomas8899@googlemail.com says...
> >Orange still do it, it's called Locally Integrated Number, you pay a one
> >off set up fee and a per minute rate for incoming calls. Codes available
> >I think are 0207 and 0161 and possibly one other which I can't remember.

>
> Surely you mean 020 & 0161?


No. I was saying that orange offer 0207 and 0161 as a geographic prefix.
Orange do not offer 020.
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:18 AM
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In article <47878b15$0$512$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
troffasky@hotmail.com says...
> There must be a reason they don't want people to use it - any idea what
> it is?


It's simply not a popular service.
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:31 AM
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Default Re: Geographic number on UK mobile.

On 12/01/2008 07:16, Jon wrote:

> No. I was saying that orange offer 0207 and 0161 as a geographic prefix.
> Orange do not offer 020.


They offer 020 that just happen to begin with 7.

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Old 01-12-2008, 08:06 AM
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On 12/1/08 07:31, Andy Burns wrote:
> On 12/01/2008 07:16, Jon wrote:
>
>> No. I was saying that orange offer 0207 and 0161 as a geographic
>> prefix. Orange do not offer 020.

>
> They offer 020 that just happen to begin with 7.


Why would anyone want 7020 as a prefix?

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Old 01-12-2008, 10:56 AM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.21f27a08e361afb59896a3@nntp.aioe.org
: : In article <47878b15$0$512$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
: : troffasky@hotmail.com says...
: : : There must be a reason they don't want people to use
: : : it - any idea what it is?
: :
: : It's simply not a popular service.
: : --
: : Regards
: : Jon

I'm not surprised at that price.

Like I said, get a *free* Sipgate account and divert that.

Ivor


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Old 01-12-2008, 10:56 AM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.21f279ab462a045d9896a2@nntp.aioe.org
: : In article <r3eeo3lc1qh4cctnnccoqiqjdue864qnt3@4ax.com>,
: : peter.thomas8899@googlemail.com says...
: : : : Orange still do it, it's called Locally Integrated
: : : : Number, you pay a one off set up fee and a per
: : : : minute rate for incoming calls. Codes available I
: : : : think are 0207 and 0161 and possibly one other
: : : : which I can't remember.
: : :
: : : Surely you mean 020 & 0161?
: :
: : No. I was saying that orange offer 0207 and 0161 as a
: : geographic prefix. Orange do not offer 020.

But (all together now) 0207 isn't a prefix.

Ivor


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Old 01-13-2008, 03:52 PM
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:16:55 -0000, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
wrote:

>In article <r3eeo3lc1qh4cctnnccoqiqjdue864qnt3@4ax.com>,
>peter.thomas8899@googlemail.com says...
>> >Orange still do it, it's called Locally Integrated Number, you pay a one
>> >off set up fee and a per minute rate for incoming calls. Codes available
>> >I think are 0207 and 0161 and possibly one other which I can't remember.

>>
>> Surely you mean 020 & 0161?

>
>No. I was saying that orange offer 0207 and 0161 as a geographic prefix.
>Orange do not offer 020.


They obviously do offer 020 as that is the code for London, wheras
0207 is a code plus another number
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