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Old 12-03-2006, 07:39 PM
Larry
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Default How check a phone number is on Orange

Is there a direct way to find if a number is on Orange ....

Maybe there is a special Orange number which I can call for this info?
Perhaps a web page which confirms if a number is on Orange or not?
Or phone 150 each time I want to check. (What a chore!)

---

I'd usually check with this web site but ported numbers may be wrong, so
it's not as useful as I'd like.
http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/section/h...oduction.shtml

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Old 12-03-2006, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange

Larry submitted this idea :
> Is there a direct way to find if a number is on Orange ....
>
> Maybe there is a special Orange number which I can call for this info?
> Perhaps a web page which confirms if a number is on Orange or not?
> Or phone 150 each time I want to check. (What a chore!)
>
> ---
>
> I'd usually check with this web site but ported numbers may be wrong, so
> it's not as useful as I'd like.
> http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/section/h...oduction.shtml


If you have an orange phone yourself, call your voicemail & choose to
send a message to another user. If it lets you send to the mobile
number you want to check, it's with Orange, otherwise it's not.

I rather thought dialling 07973100123 from a non-orange phone would
yield similar results, however, it doesn't seem to work this evening.



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Old 12-03-2006, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:46:32 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:

>I rather thought dialling 07973100123 from a non-orange phone would
>yield similar results, however, it doesn't seem to work this evening.


Very hard to tell these days due to number porting. However, it always
used to be the case that when dialling an Orange mobile, there was a
long single ring followed by the normal burr, burr ring.

This may have changed in recent years or other networks may now
exhibit the same sequence.

W.


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Old 12-03-2006, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange

Mr Woo wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:46:32 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> I rather thought dialling 07973100123 from a non-orange phone would
>> yield similar results, however, it doesn't seem to work this evening.

>
> Very hard to tell these days due to number porting. However, it always
> used to be the case that when dialling an Orange mobile, there was a
> long single ring followed by the normal burr, burr ring.
>
> This may have changed in recent years or other networks may now
> exhibit the same sequence.
>
> W.
>


3 does the same thing.

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Old 12-04-2006, 02:39 AM
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"Larry" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a direct way to find if a number is on Orange ....
>
>

Orange and 3 network phones when called, start with one ring,
then ring ring
All other networks start with ring ring

Steve Terry



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Old 12-04-2006, 04:40 PM
Richard Oliver
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Steve Terry wrote:
> "Larry" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns988ED226EA1C9D5E712@127.0.0.1...
>> Is there a direct way to find if a number is on Orange ....
>>
>>

> Orange and 3 network phones when called, start with one ring,
> then ring ring
> All other networks start with ring ring


I suppose that has improved his odds of finding out - a bit.

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Old 12-07-2006, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange

In article <Xns988ED226EA1C9D5E712@127.0.0.1>, mail@mail.com says...
> Is there a direct way to find if a number is on Orange ....
>
> Maybe there is a special Orange number which I can call for this info?
> Perhaps a web page which confirms if a number is on Orange or not?
> Or phone 150 each time I want to check. (What a chore!)
>
> ---
>
> I'd usually check with this web site but ported numbers may be wrong, so
> it's not as useful as I'd like.
> http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/section/h...oduction.shtml
>


For the end user your site mentioned above seems one of the best I've
seen, though as you've said if a numbers ported across from one network
to another this may be incorrect.

When numbers are ported from one network to another the initial call
routing still goes via the original network. A network engineer could
trace the routing for that number and identify where it ends up but I
doubt customer services would have a clue!

Probably the easiest way would be to phone the person who's numbers in
question and ask them.

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Old 12-07-2006, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange

In article <Xns988ED226EA1C9D5E712@127.0.0.1>, mail@mail.com says...
> Is there a direct way to find if a number is on Orange ....
>
> Maybe there is a special Orange number which I can call for this info?
> Perhaps a web page which confirms if a number is on Orange or not?
> Or phone 150 each time I want to check. (What a chore!)
>
> ---
>
> I'd usually check with this web site but ported numbers may be wrong, so
> it's not as useful as I'd like.
> http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/section/h...oduction.shtml
>


For the end user your site mentioned above seems one of the best I've
seen, though as you've said if a numbers ported across from one network
to another this may be incorrect.

When numbers are ported from one network to another the initial call
routing still goes via the original network. A network engineer could
trace the routing for that number and identify where it ends up but I
doubt customer services would have a clue!

Probably the easiest way would be to phone the person who's numbers in
question and ask them.

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Old 12-08-2006, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange

Samo wrote:
>
> For the end user your site mentioned above seems one of the best I've
> seen, though as you've said if a numbers ported across from one network
> to another this may be incorrect.
>
> When numbers are ported from one network to another the initial call
> routing still goes via the original network. A network engineer could
> trace the routing for that number and identify where it ends up but I
> doubt customer services would have a clue!
>
> Probably the easiest way would be to phone the person who's numbers in
> question and ask them.


If they've sent you a text message, would checking the source SMSC
number work? Do virtual networks use their own?

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Old 12-09-2006, 04:47 PM
Jon Pitts
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"Simon Dobson" <replytogroup@nospam.domain.invalid> wrote in message
news:4trs6vF159odeU1@mid.individual.net...
> >


>
> If they've sent you a text message, would checking the source SMSC
> number work?


It certainly would.

> Do virtual networks use their own?


Good question, which also stands for 3 users roaming outside of the 3G
coverage area. Pass!

Regards

--
Jon Pitts
Email: jon@pitts50.co.uk Attachments: files@pitts50.co.uk



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Old 12-14-2006, 07:06 PM
dan@u.genie.co.uk
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange

Larry wrote:
> Is there a direct way to find if a number is on Orange ....
> Maybe there is a special Orange number which I can call for this info?
> Perhaps a web page which confirms if a number is on Orange or not?
> Or phone 150 each time I want to check. (What a chore!)
> ---
> I'd usually check with this web site but ported numbers may be wrong, so
> it's not as useful as I'd like.
> http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/section/h...oduction.shtml


Yes.

Call voicemail, select the option to send a message to another Orange
user, enter the number and there's your answer! then just hang up.

It's Ideal for users on Orange/landline only tariffs to check a
number before they call it or to take up promotions/discounted rates
only to Orange numbers, and AFAIK it will pick up on ported numbers,
even better if you get voicemail free or included within your free
minutes, as it won't cost you to check :-)

Dan


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Old 12-15-2006, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange


"Samson" <news@samo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fe2a6dbe0c3d87f989681@news.freeola.net.. .
>A network engineer could
> trace the routing for that number and identify where it ends up


How?

Regards
Andrew




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Old 12-15-2006, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: How check a phone number is on Orange


"Andrew Crane" <news2@inweb.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eluipc$6v6$1@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>
> "Samson" <news@samo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1fe2a6dbe0c3d87f989681@news.freeola.net.. .
>>A network engineer could
>> trace the routing for that number and identify where it ends up

>
> How?
>
> Regards
> Andrew
>


When I used to do faulting on the network (BT that is) it was all done via
Switch Manager, and you could eventually track where a call ended up, IE
breaking out of the BT Network to (say) Orange, Vodafone, etc, etc, or
ending up at a particular location within the network.

As for getting that information for a single number via this route, I think
you have whats known as 'a cat in hells chance'. Regulation, process,
proecdure, etc, would prevent it being divulged.

J



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