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Old 03-02-2007, 04:47 AM
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Meaning of the word Islam

Question:
What is the meaning of the word Islam?

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

If you refer to Arabic language dictionaries you will find out that
the meaning of the word Islam is: submission, humbling oneself, and
obeying commands and heeding prohibitions without objection, sincerely
worshipping Allaah alone, believing what He tells us and having faith
in Him. The word Islam has become the name of the religion which was
brought by Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Why is this religion called Islam? For all the religions on earth are
called by various names, either the name of a specific man or a
specific nation. So Christianity takes its name from Christ; Buddhism
takes its name from its founder, the Buddha; the Zoroastrians became
well known by this name because their founder and standard-bearer was
Zoroaster. Similarly, Judaism took its name from a tribe known as
Yehudah (Judah), so it became known as Judaism. And so on. Except for
Islam, for it is not attributed to any specific man or to any specific
nation, rather its name refers to the meaning of the word Islam. What
this name indicates is that the establishment and founding of this
religion was not the work of one particular man and that it is not
only for one particular nation to the exclusion of all others. Rather
its aim is give the attribute implied by the word Islam to all the
peoples of the earth. So everyone who acquires this attribute, whether
he is from the past or the present, is a Muslim, and everyone who
acquires this attribute in the future will also be a Muslim.


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Old 03-02-2007, 09:45 AM
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"msk2000" <msk2000@naseej.com> wrote in message
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> Meaning of the word Islam
>
> Question:
> What is the meaning of the word Islam?
>
> Answer:

Terrorist scum?



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Old 03-02-2007, 01:23 PM
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"msk2000" <msk2000@naseej.com> wrote in message
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> Meaning of the word Islam
>
> Question:
> What is the meaning of the word Islam?
>
> Answer:
> "The Great Brain-washed"




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Old 03-02-2007, 03:22 PM
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:23:01 -0000, "Rob" <anon@anon.com> wrote:

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>"msk2000" <msk2000@naseej.com> wrote in message
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>> Meaning of the word Islam
>>
>> Question:
>> What is the meaning of the word Islam?
>>
>> Answer:
>> "The Great Brain-washed"

That's my thinking too but I think it applies to most religions.
Each religion thinks that it is the right religion - so really none of
them are :-)
Sadly children are indoctrinated by their parents.
Oh what a can of worms!
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:49 PM
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msk2000 wrote:
> Meaning of the word Islam
>

<SNIP>

In reality you are almost as much an athiest as I am.
The only difference is I believe in one less god than you.
When you figure out why you don't believe in all those other gods,
you will understand why I don't believe in yours.

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Old 03-02-2007, 06:58 PM
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"Rob" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message news:45e839e0.0@entanet...
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> "msk2000" <msk2000@naseej.com> wrote in message
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>> Meaning of the word Islam
>>
>> Question:
>> What is the meaning of the word Islam?
>>
>> Answer:
>> "The Great Brain-washed"

>
>

After life insurance like all organised religions.

RC and Cof E should improve their policys,
and add some virgins to match Islams offer

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Old 03-03-2007, 08:28 PM
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In news:udjgu21tnmi8qqr3j0lggbvb9udfb65rgv@4ax.com,
Brian A <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wibbled
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:23:01 -0000, "Rob" <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>
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>> "msk2000" <msk2000@naseej.com> wrote in message
>> news:1172814479.882810.280020@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Meaning of the word Islam
>>>
>>> Question:
>>> What is the meaning of the word Islam?
>>>
>>> Answer:
>>> "The Great Brain-washed"

> That's my thinking too but I think it applies to most religions.
> Each religion thinks that it is the right religion - so really none of
> them are :-)
> Sadly children are indoctrinated by their parents.
> Oh what a can of worms!
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.


which is why they're all for sad losers who need to be told how to live


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Old 03-03-2007, 08:42 PM
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"Sla#s" <phil@KNOTslatts.net> wrote in message
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> msk2000 wrote:
> > Meaning of the word Islam
> >

> <SNIP>
>
> In reality you are almost as much an athiest as I am.
> The only difference is I believe in one less god than you.
> When you figure out why you don't believe in all those
> other gods, you will understand why I don't believe in
> yours.


Come, come, live and let live. I couldn't care less what god/religion
anybody chooses to believe in. The only thing I will not tolerate is any
of them trying to convert *me* - whether I believe in a god or not is
between me and that god, if I choose to believe, which is *my* business
and none of anybody else's.


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Old 03-03-2007, 09:27 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> Come, come, live and let live. I couldn't care less what god/religion
> anybody chooses to believe in. The only thing I will not tolerate is any
> of them trying to convert *me* - whether I believe in a god or not is
> between me and that god, if I choose to believe, which is *my* business
> and none of anybody else's.




but if you are truly religious - you believe the whole story, everything,
it's 100% real, then you HAVE to try to convert them surely? - if you truly
believe that if you don't, they are doomed to eternal damnation?

if i were religious i'd at least put my money where my mouth is.



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Old 03-03-2007, 10:43 PM
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"the dog from that film you saw"
<dsb@REMOVETHECAPITALSbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:54u8ddF22ib95U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> > Come, come, live and let live. I couldn't care less
> > what god/religion anybody chooses to believe in. The
> > only thing I will not tolerate is any of them trying to
> > convert *me* - whether I believe in a god or not is
> > between me and that god, if I choose to believe, which
> > is *my* business and none of anybody else's.

>
> but if you are truly religious - you believe the whole
> story, everything, it's 100% real, then you HAVE to try
> to convert them surely? - if you truly believe that if
> you don't, they are doomed to eternal damnation?


If you say so, I certainly didn't..!

> if i were religious i'd at least put my money where my
> mouth is.


I never said I was religious. I said that my beliefs are my own business,
nothing more, nothing less. Read into that what you will.

As I said, *nobody* is going to "convert" me. At least not by any
legal/ethical/moral means.


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Old 03-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:43:57 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

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>
>"the dog from that film you saw"
><dsb@REMOVETHECAPITALSbtinternet.com> wrote in message
>news:54ub1bF226dbeU1@mid.individual.net
>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:54u8ddF22ib95U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> > Come, come, live and let live. I couldn't care less
>> > what god/religion anybody chooses to believe in. The
>> > only thing I will not tolerate is any of them trying to
>> > convert *me* - whether I believe in a god or not is
>> > between me and that god, if I choose to believe, which
>> > is *my* business and none of anybody else's.

>>
>> but if you are truly religious - you believe the whole
>> story, everything, it's 100% real, then you HAVE to try
>> to convert them surely? - if you truly believe that if
>> you don't, they are doomed to eternal damnation?

>
>If you say so, I certainly didn't..!
>
>> if i were religious i'd at least put my money where my
>> mouth is.

>
>I never said I was religious. I said that my beliefs are my own business,
>nothing more, nothing less. Read into that what you will.
>
>As I said, *nobody* is going to "convert" me. At least not by any
>legal/ethical/moral means.

I think you are saying the same as me. I don't care a toss what
religion people are so long as they don't try to foist it on me AND
that in their profesional life they don't show religious favour.
Just today I heard, on the radio, about a 19 year old lad who was set
upon, in Iraq, by some Muslims, and forcably circumcised. As you'd
imagine, the experience had created tremendous emotional trama for
him.
Really these people are at the same stage we were at 100s of years ago
when people were fined for not going to church or tortured because
they didn't follow the religion that the King wanted them to follow.
Spain was the same with the inquisition.
The Islamist extemists are just brainwashed primitives in living in a
timewarp.


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"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>As I said, *nobody* is going to "convert" me. At least not by any
>>legal/ethical/moral means.

> I think you are saying the same as me. I don't care a toss what
> religion people are so long as they don't try to foist it on me AND
> that in their profesional life they don't show religious favour.
> Just today I heard, on the radio, about a 19 year old lad who was set
> upon, in Iraq, by some Muslims, and forcably circumcised. As you'd
> imagine, the experience had created tremendous emotional trama for
> him.




a woman tried doing that to me once.......



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Old 03-04-2007, 01:23 PM
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Ivor Jones wrote:
<SNIP>
>>
>> In reality you are almost as much an athiest as I am.
>> The only difference is I believe in one less god than you.
>> When you figure out why you don't believe in all those
>> other gods, you will understand why I don't believe in
>> yours.

>
> Come, come, live and let live. I couldn't care less what god/religion
> anybody chooses to believe in. The only thing I will not tolerate is
> any of them trying to convert *me* - whether I believe in a god or
> not is between me and that god, if I choose to believe, which is *my*
> business and none of anybody else's.
>


Personaly I do "live and let live".
The problem with islam is that many adherents believe they either have to
convert you and if they fail, it is their duty to kill you!

"And slay them wherever ye catch then." Qur'an 2:191.
"...slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, ..." Qur'an 9:5.
"Strike off the heads of the disbelievers and after making a wide slaughter
among them, ..." Qur'an 47:4.
"And if any believe not in Allah and His messenger, We have prepared, for
those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!" Qur'an 48:13

I could go on...

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Old 03-04-2007, 08:37 PM
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:23:33 -0000, "Sla#s" <phil@KNOTslatts.net>
wrote:

>Ivor Jones wrote:
><SNIP>
>>>
>>> In reality you are almost as much an athiest as I am.
>>> The only difference is I believe in one less god than you.
>>> When you figure out why you don't believe in all those
>>> other gods, you will understand why I don't believe in
>>> yours.

>>
>> Come, come, live and let live. I couldn't care less what god/religion
>> anybody chooses to believe in. The only thing I will not tolerate is
>> any of them trying to convert *me* - whether I believe in a god or
>> not is between me and that god, if I choose to believe, which is *my*
>> business and none of anybody else's.
>>

>
>Personaly I do "live and let live".
>The problem with islam is that many adherents believe they either have to
>convert you and if they fail, it is their duty to kill you!
>
>"And slay them wherever ye catch then." Qur'an 2:191.
> "...slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, ..." Qur'an 9:5.
>"Strike off the heads of the disbelievers and after making a wide slaughter
>among them, ..." Qur'an 47:4.
>"And if any believe not in Allah and His messenger, We have prepared, for
>those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!" Qur'an 48:13
>

Hmmm very interesting. I think what it portrays is that there are
those who follow these parts of the Qur'an slavishly whilst others
have more sense. It is the same with the Bible. I may not get this
absolutely correct but, as I remember it, in leviticus, people who
shave their beards and people who are blind shall be damned - how was
this piece of wisdom dreamt up? This quite sensibly this ignored by
the C of E but then they make an enormous fuss over the 'man shall
not lie with man as with woman' bit.
There are people who pick out the bits they want to suit their own
hang ups. When I look around the world it seems to me that more hate
created by religion than good.


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