Lycamobile SIM oddity

Grandma has an Anycool W02 mobile telephone:

<http://product.madeinchina.com/whole...ll-phone-Font-
big-Voice-ce-mobile-phone-low_13039978.shtml>

and a Lycamobile SIM card, but the combination doesn't seem to be a winning
one. It seems to have a problem with registering; sometimes it registers
straight away and works fine. Sometimes the phone keeps rebooting and then
eventually registers [you can tell it's worked because it makes a bloop-
bloopy noise]. I have tried an O2 SIM card in it and it works fine,
instantly. I have tried the Lycamobile SIM in my 6310i and there seems to be
a delay of about a minite before you can do anything with the handset that
doesn't result in "SIM card not ready", but after then it's fine.

I suspect the delay with the Lycamobile SIM is 'normal' and the Anycool W02
is just a shoddy POS, but can anyone confirm if a delay before registering
is normal with a Lycamoble SIM?

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:06:25 +0000, alexd
<troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Grandma has an Anycool W02 mobile telephone:
>
><http://product.madeinchina.com/whole...ll-phone-Font-
>big-Voice-ce-mobile-phone-low_13039978.shtml>
>
>and a Lycamobile SIM card, but the combination doesn't seem to be a winning
>one. It seems to have a problem with registering; sometimes it registers
>straight away and works fine. Sometimes the phone keeps rebooting and then
>eventually registers [you can tell it's worked because it makes a bloop-
>bloopy noise]. I have tried an O2 SIM card in it and it works fine,
>instantly. I have tried the Lycamobile SIM in my 6310i and there seems to be
>a delay of about a minite before you can do anything with the handset that
>doesn't result in "SIM card not ready", but after then it's fine.
>
>I suspect the delay with the Lycamobile SIM is 'normal' and the Anycool W02
>is just a shoddy POS, but can anyone confirm if a delay before registering
>is normal with a Lycamoble SIM?

I don't know how to describe this correctly; I hope you can
understand what I mean.

The original Lycamobile SIMs (prefix begins 075) were native to
the Orange network. The newer Lycamobile Plus SIMs (prefix
begins 074) don't have a home network; they roam on O2.

I suspect that it's the roaming aspect which is causing the
behaviours you have observed.
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Roger

Roger (for it is he) wrote:

> The original Lycamobile SIMs (prefix begins 075) were native to
> the Orange network. The newer Lycamobile Plus SIMs (prefix
> begins 074) don't have a home network; they roam on O2.
>
> I suspect that it's the roaming aspect which is causing the
> behaviours you have observed.

Yeah, that fits what I've seen as it's an 074 SIM. I guess the Anycool W02
is buggy and she's just going to need a SIM card that's "native" on its
network.

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:28:41 +0000, alexd
<troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Yeah, that fits what I've seen as it's an 074 SIM. I guess the Anycool W02
>is buggy and she's just going to need a SIM card that's "native" on its
>network.

In that case don't get Vectone as it's also a "roaming" SIM. It
roams on T-Mobile.

The only way I know of to tell a "native" from a "roaming" SIM
is to try it in a phone which indicates when it is roaming.
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Roger

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:13:24 +0000, Roger <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:28:41 +0000, alexd
><troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yeah, that fits what I've seen as it's an 074 SIM. I guess the Anycool W02
>>is buggy and she's just going to need a SIM card that's "native" on its
>>network.
>
>In that case don't get Vectone as it's also a "roaming" SIM. It
>roams on T-Mobile.
>
>The only way I know of to tell a "native" from a "roaming" SIM
>is to try it in a phone which indicates when it is roaming.


I was using my T-Mobile dongle in Widnes Mersyside today, and when I
reconected a message poped up saying I was about to roam onto a non-UK
network which would incur higher call and text charges. Did I want to
continue?

Something like that anyway, I forgot to save thee screen-shot I took.

What network was that likley to have been?





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Graham.
%Profound_observation%

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:04:20 +0000, Graham. <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

>I was using my T-Mobile dongle in Widnes Mersyside today, and when I
>reconected a message poped up saying I was about to roam onto a non-UK
>network which would incur higher call and text charges. Did I want to
>continue?
>
>Something like that anyway, I forgot to save thee screen-shot I took.
>
>What network was that likley to have been?

I have never used a dongle so I don't know what information you
can get from them.

If it definitely said "non-UK" then what is near Widnes? Isle of
Man. Republic of Ireland. Neither seems likely.

Perhaps it was offering Orange and the message you saw was a
generic message that is displayed when roaming is detected.
Does the dongle's manual give you any information?

If the manual doesn't help then someone at T-Mobile should be
able to give an authoritative answer. How you reach such a
person...
--
Roger

[snip]
>
> The original Lycamobile SIMs (prefix begins 075) were native to
> the Orange network. The newer Lycamobile Plus SIMs (prefix
> begins 074) don't have a home network; they roam on O2.
>

I know what roaming is as in when I go abroad, but can you
explain what you mean by 'roam on O2'?



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Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:24:04 -0000, "Woody"
<harrogate3@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote:

>[snip]
>>
>> The original Lycamobile SIMs (prefix begins 075) were native to
>> the Orange network. The newer Lycamobile Plus SIMs (prefix
>> begins 074) don't have a home network; they roam on O2.
>>
>
>I know what roaming is as in when I go abroad, but can you
>explain what you mean by 'roam on O2'?

Some phones indicate when they are roaming. Perhaps they display
an "R" or a triangle or some other way.

If I put my Vectone SIM in an old Motorola W377 there is a
triangle which indicates that roaming is active and the service
provider is displayed on two lines; the top line shows "T-Mobile
UK", the second line shows "Vectone Mobile". A Lycamobile Plus
SIM (prefix beginning 074) in the same phone shows the roaming
triangle, "O2-UK" and "LYCAMOBILE".

An old Lycamobile SIM (prefix beginning 075) in the same phone
does not show the roaming triangle and for the service provider
shows only "LYCAMOBILE".
--
Roger