N95 and # key to change from Silent to General profile (and vice-versa)

I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.

"Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
news:fi145u$q70$1@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
> *not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
> but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
> everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
> seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
> it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
> no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.

No idea but my N95 8GB on Voda works. I was not aware of the feature until
you mentioned it.

Have you updated the firmware?

"John Mason" <shjasa@asjaksj.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:fi145u$q70$1@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>> *not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>> but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>> everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>> seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>> it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>> no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.
>
> No idea but my N95 8GB on Voda works. I was not aware of the feature until
> you mentioned it.
>
> Have you updated the firmware?

my n80 dont do it and thats 3rd ed. but my nk7110 is working.

On 21 Nov, 18:40, "John Mason" <shj...@asjaksj.com> wrote:

> No idea but my N95 8GB on Voda works. I was not aware of the feature until
> you mentioned it.

My 6120 on Three does it - I, likewise, didn't know until I read it
here. Thanks, Big Bird!

Ian

"Ian" <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:870626d7-d2b0-4951-8147-5c3f09b09393@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On 21 Nov, 18:40, "John Mason" <shj...@asjaksj.com> wrote:
>
>> No idea but my N95 8GB on Voda works. I was not aware of the feature
>> until
>> you mentioned it.
>
> My 6120 on Three does it - I, likewise, didn't know until I read it
> here. Thanks, Big Bird!
>
> Ian

If you hold down the 0 key it should start the internet and hold down 1 to
dial voicemail.

Oh and if you hold the key at the top of the phone the screen goes blank.

You guys should really read the manuals which come with the phones or ever
just look at the figure showing the key layout.

PS: I'm tired, I've left my mobiles in the hotel room and I just want to go
back to sleep. "I need a coffee".

--
Gerry (The MOTH)
gerrymoth.vox.com

On 22 Nov, 07:17, "Gerry \(The MOTH\)" <Gerry (TheMOTH)> wrote:
> "Ian" <ian.gro...@btinternet.com> wrote in message

> > My 6120 on Three does it - I, likewise, didn't know until I read it
> > here. Thanks, Big Bird!

> If you hold down the 0 key it should start the internet and hold down 1 to
> dial voicemail.
>
> Oh and if you hold the key at the top of the phone the screen goes blank.
>
> You guys should really read the manuals which come with the phones or ever
> just look at the figure showing the key layout.

The manual which comes with the 6120 from Three is a cut down one
which does not include this information. The link to the full 6120
manual on the Nokia website is broken.

> PS: I'm tired, I've left my mobiles in the hotel room and I just want to go
> back to sleep. "I need a coffee".

Then I will excuse your rudeness. But next time, why not ask if the
manual contains stuff before berating us?

Ian

"Ian" <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On 22 Nov, 07:17, "Gerry \(The MOTH\)" <Gerry (TheMOTH)> wrote:
>> "Ian" <ian.gro...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
>> > My 6120 on Three does it - I, likewise, didn't know until I read it
>> > here. Thanks, Big Bird!
>
>> If you hold down the 0 key it should start the internet and hold down 1
>> to
>> dial voicemail.
>>
>> Oh and if you hold the key at the top of the phone the screen goes blank.
>>
>> You guys should really read the manuals which come with the phones or
>> ever
>> just look at the figure showing the key layout.
>
> The manual which comes with the 6120 from Three is a cut down one
> which does not include this information. The link to the full 6120
> manual on the Nokia website is broken.
>
>> PS: I'm tired, I've left my mobiles in the hotel room and I just want to
>> go
>> back to sleep. "I need a coffee".
>
> Then I will excuse your rudeness. But next time, why not ask if the
> manual contains stuff before berating us?
>
> Ian

I wasn't berating you, I was just having a laugh.

Get the full manual from here
http://home.freeuk.com/themoth/n73/a...sic_UG__en.pdf

PS: It doesn't mention the # button, whoops.

--
Gerry (The MOTH)
gerrymoth.vox.com

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:

>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.

According to my N95 manual that's what's supposed to happen when you
press and hold the # key, but when I try it the phone actually says
"Change outgoing phone line?"

Chris

"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
news:kcpak3t05lghbpqp1t63ri6kg6qks3csoq@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.
>
> According to my N95 manual that's what's supposed to happen when you
> press and hold the # key, but when I try it the phone actually says
> "Change outgoing phone line?"

Your getting more choice than me on 02 in England.

All I get is a # on screen and a long high-pitched whine.

:-\

--
Brian

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:13:37 -0000, "Brian Watson"
<WACCI_inf@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
>news:kcpak3t05lghbpqp1t63ri6kg6qks3csoq@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>>>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>>>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>>>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>>>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>>>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>>>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.
>>
>> According to my N95 manual that's what's supposed to happen when you
>> press and hold the # key, but when I try it the phone actually says
>> "Change outgoing phone line?"
>
>Your getting more choice than me on 02 in England.
>
>All I get is a # on screen and a long high-pitched whine.

It seems you have to hold the # key down for a bit longer than for the
other keys. It takes around 5 seconds of holding the button down
before the message appears on my phone.

Chris

"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
news:i6tak31ms14pdre8jr0tt0utneuodhu2hl@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:13:37 -0000, "Brian Watson"
> <WACCI_inf@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
>>news:kcpak3t05lghbpqp1t63ri6kg6qks3csoq@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>>>>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>>>>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>>>>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>>>>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>>>>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>>>>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.
>>>
>>> According to my N95 manual that's what's supposed to happen when you
>>> press and hold the # key, but when I try it the phone actually says
>>> "Change outgoing phone line?"
>>
>>Your getting more choice than me on 02 in England.
>>
>>All I get is a # on screen and a long high-pitched whine.
>
> It seems you have to hold the # key down for a bit longer than for the
> other keys. It takes around 5 seconds of holding the button down
> before the message appears on my phone.

Tried it, and gave up at 20 seconds.

:-(

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

It doesn't work on all Nokias made in Finland (despite saying otherwise
in the manual!). If your N95 is made in Asia it will work. I'm trying
to find out why from Nokia but a firmware re-install to remove branding
does *not* resolve the issue. Seems hardware related. Will report back
when I find out why from Nokia.

* John Mason wrote:
> Have you updated the firmware?

Yes. Running latest firmware. Seems hardware related. WOrks on some N95s
and not on others.

* Ian wrote:
> On 21 Nov, 18:40, "John Mason" <shj...@asjaksj.com> wrote:
>
>> No idea but my N95 8GB on Voda works. I was not aware of the feature until
>> you mentioned it.
>
> My 6120 on Three does it - I, likewise, didn't know until I read it
> here. Thanks, Big Bird!
>
> Ian

Glad it works for you! ;-)

Hopefully I'll get it working some day too, it's bloody useful!

* Gerry (The MOTH) wrote:
> You guys should really read the manuals which come with the phones or ever
> just look at the figure showing the key layout.

And Nokia should only put in the manual information that is valid. They
say press and hold the # key to switch profiles. This does *not* work on
all N95s in the UK. Problem reported to Nokia. Will report back.

According to a friend of mine (in the industry) it will only ork if you
have an icon on the # key of a music note with a cross through it. Seems
this hardware is made in Asia not in Europe. Check the sticker on the
battery to find out where your Nokia is born :-)

"Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
news:fi41ct$260i$6@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
> According to a friend of mine (in the industry) it will only ork if you
> have an icon on the # key of a music note with a cross through it. Seems
> this hardware is made in Asia not in Europe. Check the sticker on the
> battery to find out where your Nokia is born :-)

Mine has an Up Arrow sharing with the # and doesn't work the Silent >
General shortcut.

Seems to confirm what's being said.

--
Brian

* Brian Watson wrote:
> "Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:fi41ct$260i$6@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>> According to a friend of mine (in the industry) it will only ork if you
>> have an icon on the # key of a music note with a cross through it. Seems
>> this hardware is made in Asia not in Europe. Check the sticker on the
>> battery to find out where your Nokia is born :-)
>
> Mine has an Up Arrow sharing with the # and doesn't work the Silent >
> General shortcut.
>
> Seems to confirm what's being said.
>

ditto :-(

"Brian Watson" <WACCI_inf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5qlgsiF10la25U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:fi41ct$260i$6@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>> According to a friend of mine (in the industry) it will only ork if you
>> have an icon on the # key of a music note with a cross through it. Seems
>> this hardware is made in Asia not in Europe. Check the sticker on the
>> battery to find out where your Nokia is born :-)
>
> Mine has an Up Arrow sharing with the # and doesn't work the Silent >
> General shortcut.
>
> Seems to confirm what's being said.
>

<panto>Oh no it doesn't </panto>

Mine (UK version with latest firmware) has an Up Arrow on the # key and
holding it down DOES toggle between Silent an General



--
John Blessing

* John Blessing wrote:
> "Brian Watson" <WACCI_inf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5qlgsiF10la25U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:fi41ct$260i$6@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>>> According to a friend of mine (in the industry) it will only ork if you
>>> have an icon on the # key of a music note with a cross through it. Seems
>>> this hardware is made in Asia not in Europe. Check the sticker on the
>>> battery to find out where your Nokia is born :-)
>> Mine has an Up Arrow sharing with the # and doesn't work the Silent >
>> General shortcut.
>>
>> Seems to confirm what's being said.
>>
>
> <panto>Oh no it doesn't </panto>
>
> Mine (UK version with latest firmware) has an Up Arrow on the # key and
> holding it down DOES toggle between Silent an General

The plot thickens. Well, where is your one made? Finland or Asia? You
can tell from the sticker on the battery....

Oh.. and what network is it? O2?

"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
news:kcpak3t05lghbpqp1t63ri6kg6qks3csoq@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.
>
> According to my N95 manual that's what's supposed to happen when you
> press and hold the # key, but when I try it the phone actually says
> "Change outgoing phone line?"
>
Wild stab in the dark, but are you, or was the phone,
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change jealous to sad to reply. originally on Orange?

"Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
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>* John Blessing wrote:
>> "Brian Watson" <WACCI_inf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5qlgsiF10la25U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fi41ct$260i$6@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>>>> According to a friend of mine (in the industry) it will only ork if you
>>>> have an icon on the # key of a music note with a cross through it.
>>>> Seems
>>>> this hardware is made in Asia not in Europe. Check the sticker on the
>>>> battery to find out where your Nokia is born :-)
>>> Mine has an Up Arrow sharing with the # and doesn't work the Silent >
>>> General shortcut.
>>>
>>> Seems to confirm what's being said.
>>>
>>
>> <panto>Oh no it doesn't </panto>
>>
>> Mine (UK version with latest firmware) has an Up Arrow on the # key and
>> holding it down DOES toggle between Silent an General
>
> The plot thickens. Well, where is your one made? Finland or Asia? You
> can tell from the sticker on the battery....


Well, the battery was made in China, but I guess you meant "the battery...."
compartment, which shows the phone was made in Finland. Amazed really, I
thought everything was made in China these days.

And I'm on t-mobile.

--
John Blessing

* John Blessing wrote:
> Well, the battery was made in China, but I guess you meant "the battery...."
> compartment, which shows the phone was made in Finland. Amazed really, I
> thought everything was made in China these days.
>
> And I'm on t-mobile.
>

Interesting because I'm on T-Mobile UK and it doesn't work, nor does it
on any other T-Mobile ones I've tried it on. Also on my mates O2 one.
I'll just have to see what Nokia have to say about it. :-)

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:34:51 GMT, "Steve Dulieu"
<steve.dulieu@greenyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
>news:kcpak3t05lghbpqp1t63ri6kg6qks3csoq@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>>>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>>>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>>>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>>>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>>>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>>>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.
>>
>> According to my N95 manual that's what's supposed to happen when you
>> press and hold the # key, but when I try it the phone actually says
>> "Change outgoing phone line?"
>>
>Wild stab in the dark, but are you, or was the phone,
>--
>Cheers, Steve.
>Change jealous to sad to reply. originally on Orange?

?????

Chris

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:28:49 GMT, "John Blessing"
<nospam.lbe@REMOVE_THISgmail.com> wrote:

>"Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:fi44do$2aqr$1@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>>* John Blessing wrote:
>>> "Brian Watson" <WACCI_inf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5qlgsiF10la25U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Big Bird" <big.bird@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fi41ct$260i$6@custnews.inweb.co.uk...
>>>>> According to a friend of mine (in the industry) it will only ork if you
>>>>> have an icon on the # key of a music note with a cross through it.
>>>>> Seems
>>>>> this hardware is made in Asia not in Europe. Check the sticker on the
>>>>> battery to find out where your Nokia is born :-)
>>>> Mine has an Up Arrow sharing with the # and doesn't work the Silent >
>>>> General shortcut.
>>>>
>>>> Seems to confirm what's being said.
>>>>
>>>
>>> <panto>Oh no it doesn't </panto>
>>>
>>> Mine (UK version with latest firmware) has an Up Arrow on the # key and
>>> holding it down DOES toggle between Silent an General
>>
>> The plot thickens. Well, where is your one made? Finland or Asia? You
>> can tell from the sticker on the battery....
>
>
>Well, the battery was made in China, but I guess you meant "the battery...."
>compartment, which shows the phone was made in Finland. Amazed really, I
>thought everything was made in China these days.
>
>And I'm on t-mobile.

My battery also says "Made in China", but the label inside the battery
compartment says "MADE BY NOKIA" with no other clue as to which
country it was produced in.

I bought my phone in Hong Kong a couple of days after it was first
released there, but because of the type of charger supplied with it I
suspect it was not originally intended to be sold there.

Chris

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:

>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.

Just butting in...

Black N95 - 2 (8gb, Vodaphone, UK). Has no other markings on the #
key. Pressing it switches between silent and general in about a half
a second. Didn't know it did this... thanks!

"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
news8pck3lcbbr2asatjjeecclpurtnh3jj6s@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:34:51 GMT, "Steve Dulieu"
> <steve.dulieu@greenyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
>>news:kcpak3t05lghbpqp1t63ri6kg6qks3csoq@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>>>>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>>>>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>>>>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>>>>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>>>>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>>>>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.
>>>
>>> According to my N95 manual that's what's supposed to happen when you
>>> press and hold the # key, but when I try it the phone actually says
>>> "Change outgoing phone line?"
>>>
>>Wild stab in the dark, but are you, or was the phone,
>>--
>>Cheers, Steve.
>>Change jealous to sad to reply. originally on Orange?
>
> ?????
>
Sorry, my bad. What I was trying to ask was have Orange ever had anything to
do with the phone? IIRC pressing and holding the # key is how you switch to
line 2 on Orange Nokias.

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:55:04 GMT, "Steve Dulieu"
<steve.dulieu@greenyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
>news8pck3lcbbr2asatjjeecclpurtnh3jj6s@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:34:51 GMT, "Steve Dulieu"
>> <steve.dulieu@greenyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Chris Blunt" <chris_blunt@spamfence.net> wrote in message
>>>news:kcpak3t05lghbpqp1t63ri6kg6qks3csoq@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:17:23 +0000, Big Bird <big.bird@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have an N95 on T-Mobile and if I press and hold the # key it does
>>>>>*not* switch from General to Silent. I'm sure it *did* at some point
>>>>>but I could be wrong as I've done some searching on the web and it seems
>>>>>everyone who got their phone from Nokia in Finland rather than Nokia
>>>>>seems to be affected. Can anyone confirm this? Explain the problem? Is
>>>>>it a firmware issue? It seems Nokia are aware of the issue but I've seen
>>>>>no proper explanation from their message board or otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> According to my N95 manual that's what's supposed to happen when you
>>>> press and hold the # key, but when I try it the phone actually says
>>>> "Change outgoing phone line?"
>>>>
>>>Wild stab in the dark, but are you, or was the phone,
>>>--
>>>Cheers, Steve.
>>>Change jealous to sad to reply. originally on Orange?
>>
>> ?????
>>
>Sorry, my bad. What I was trying to ask was have Orange ever had anything to
>do with the phone? IIRC pressing and holding the # key is how you switch to
>line 2 on Orange Nokias.

As far as I know, it's never been anywhere near Orange.

Chris