"ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
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> Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
> tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
> My question is if I can get hold of a old call abroad branded sim,
> will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
> rates?
> Cheers.
>
I suspect you would be better off with an old Orange OVP Virgin Sim,
which would give you Orange contract Roaming rate.
>"ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
>news:hnou04hucd145e934jjc50nfsitcadm5oq@4ax.com.. .
>> Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
>> tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
>> My question is if I can get hold of a old call abroad branded sim,
>> will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
>> rates?
>> Cheers.
>>
>I suspect you would be better off with an old Orange OVP Virgin Sim,
>which would give you Orange contract Roaming rate.
Hi,
Not interested in roaming, just direct dial calls. looking at the
contract direct dial calls, most of mine would fall into the rest of
world 2 band at £1.75 per min.
Camel PAYG rates would be 15p landline / 20p mobile per min.
Call abroad PAYG rates would be 7p landline/mobile per min for the
countries I call most.
"ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:55:30 +0100, "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net>
> wrote:
>
>>"ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
>>news:hnou04hucd145e934jjc50nfsitcadm5oq@4ax.com. ..
>>> Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
>>> tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
>>> My question is if I can get hold of a old call abroad branded sim,
>>> will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
>>> rates?
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>I suspect you would be better off with an old Orange OVP Virgin Sim,
>>which would give you Orange contract Roaming rate.
>
> Hi,
> Not interested in roaming, just direct dial calls. looking at the
> contract direct dial calls, most of mine would fall into the rest of
> world 2 band at £1.75 per min.
> Camel PAYG rates would be 15p landline / 20p mobile per min.
> Call abroad PAYG rates would be 7p landline/mobile per min for the
> countries I call most.
> Cheers.
>
>
I'm sorry I associate Camel with Roaming as it's a PAYT roaming technique.
So Bloody Orange have called a Tarff Camel!
Great that should cause lots of unnecessary confusion.
Umm I would probably look at callthroughs for calling abroad,
I would need to know which countries and if mobiles?
>I'm sorry I associate Camel with Roaming as it's a PAYT roaming technique.
>
>So Bloody Orange have called a Tarff Camel!
>Great that should cause lots of unnecessary confusion.
>
>Umm I would probably look at callthroughs for calling abroad,
>I would need to know which countries and if mobiles?
Hi,
I call mostly mobiles in various Caribbean countries, mainly Barbados.
I did use my 02 contract to dial 0844 and 0870 callthroughs, but not
since they stopped including them in inclusive minutes.
"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> Umm I would probably look at callthroughs for calling abroad,
> I would need to know which countries and if mobiles?
So which would you suggest for calling Cyprus mobiles from either a landline
(with inclusive 01 & 02 numbers) or an Orange contract phone (select500)
with inc X-net minutes?
I can't seem to make predial work, and checking their website, it says CY
mob's are not included.
"ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:33:29 +0100, "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net>
> wrote:
>>I'm sorry I associate Camel with Roaming as it's a PAYT roaming technique.
>>So Bloody Orange have called a Tariff Camel!
>>Great that should cause lots of unnecessary confusion.
>>Umm I would probably look at callthroughs for calling abroad,
>>I would need to know which countries and if mobiles?
>
> Hi,
> I call mostly mobiles in various Caribbean countries, mainly Barbados.
> I did use my 02 contract to dial 0844 and 0870 callthroughs, but not
> since they stopped including them in inclusive minutes.
> Have been using Tesco PAYG at 20p per min.
> Cheers.
>
Umm if you still have 0870 callthroughs that work, and off peak calls will
do?
Why not look for an Orange ED50 contract to transfer,
they do still inc 0870 and 0845 for 50 mins off peak a day,
and then 1p per min after that.
and I suspect 3's international bolt on will beat your Tesco 20p per min.
assuming you make a lot of calls
"J B" <jb@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:fuq5oc$182$1@news.albasani.net...
>
>> Umm I would probably look at callthroughs for calling abroad,
>> I would need to know which countries and if mobiles?
>
> So which would you suggest for calling Cyprus mobiles from either a
> landline (with inclusive 01 & 02 numbers) or an Orange contract phone
> (select500) with inc X-net minutes?
>
> I can't seem to make predial work, and checking their website, it says CY
> mob's are not included.
> J B
Sounds like you need a post pay calling card service
(not the crap ones from shops)
check out: http://www.magsys.co.uk/ http://www.magsys.co.uk/telecom/residx.htm
Look for the rates to Cyprus, check out the obvious ones like
Tiscali talk, Telecom plus, Alpha telecom,1899 etc,etc.
most have raised their rates in recent months.
>"ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
>news:tb711499c4trr0kcud43lcqkfo1o829kll@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:33:29 +0100, "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net>
>> wrote:
>>>I'm sorry I associate Camel with Roaming as it's a PAYT roaming technique.
>>>So Bloody Orange have called a Tariff Camel!
>>>Great that should cause lots of unnecessary confusion.
>>>Umm I would probably look at callthroughs for calling abroad,
>>>I would need to know which countries and if mobiles?
>>
>> Hi,
>> I call mostly mobiles in various Caribbean countries, mainly Barbados.
>> I did use my 02 contract to dial 0844 and 0870 callthroughs, but not
>> since they stopped including them in inclusive minutes.
>> Have been using Tesco PAYG at 20p per min.
>> Cheers.
>>
>Umm if you still have 0870 callthroughs that work, and off peak calls will
>do?
Hi,
I haven't used them since 02 removed them from inclusive minutes, so
have no idea if they still work. I found them quite unreliable most
times.
>Why not look for an Orange ED50 contract to transfer,
>they do still inc 0870 and 0845 for 50 mins off peak a day,
>and then 1p per min after that.
I had a ED50 contract, then ported to 02 as I needed peak calls to
those non-geo numbers.
>and I suspect 3's international bolt on will beat your Tesco 20p per min.
>assuming you make a lot of calls
Is this the £15 international saver option? If so calls to the
Caribbean are excluded.
Been looking at other options like Lebara Mobile, Nomi Mobile, Mobile
World, even 02 Your Country.
It's seems O's Call Abroad tariff was going to be the best for me.
> "ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
> news:hnou04hucd145e934jjc50nfsitcadm5oq@4ax.com...
> > Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
> > tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
> > My question is if I can get hold of a old call abroad branded sim,
> > will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
> > rates?
> > Cheers.
> >
> I suspect you would be better off with an old Orange OVP Virgin Sim,
> which would give you Orange contract Roaming rate.
Is there any difference? The EU forced all the companies to harmonise
their rates to a set amount. Good thing too!
--
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(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Steve Terry <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote:
>
> > "ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
> > news:hnou04hucd145e934jjc50nfsitcadm5oq@4ax.com...
> > > Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
> > > tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
> > > My question is if I can get hold of a old call abroad branded sim,
> > > will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
> > > rates?
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > I suspect you would be better off with an old Orange OVP Virgin Sim,
> > which would give you Orange contract Roaming rate.
>
> Is there any difference? The EU forced all the companies to harmonise
> their rates to a set amount. Good thing too!
Sorry- this only affects EU countries of course...
--
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(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
"ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:34:18 +0100, "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net>
> wrote:
>>"ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
>>news:tb711499c4trr0kcud43lcqkfo1o829kll@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:33:29 +0100, "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net>
>>> wrote:
<snip>
> I had a ED50 contract, then ported to 02 as I needed peak calls to
> those non-geo numbers.
>
>>and I suspect 3's international bolt on will beat your Tesco 20p per min.
>>assuming you make a lot of calls
>
> Is this the £15 international saver option? If so calls to the
> Caribbean are excluded.
>
That's a shame
>
> Been looking at other options like Lebara Mobile, Nomi Mobile, Mobile
> World, even 02 Your Country.
> It's seems O's Call Abroad tariff was going to be the best for me.
> Cheers.
>
It probably is
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Steve Terry <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote:
>> > "ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
>> > news:hnou04hucd145e934jjc50nfsitcadm5oq@4ax.com...
>> > > Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
>> > > tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
>> > > My question is if I can get hold of a old call abroad branded sim,
>> > > will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
>> > > rates?
>> > > Cheers.
>> > >
>> > I suspect you would be better off with an old Orange OVP Virgin Sim,
>> > which would give you Orange contract Roaming rate.
>>
>> Is there any difference? The EU forced all the companies to harmonise
>> their rates to a set amount. Good thing too!
>
> Sorry- this only affects EU countries of course...
>
Contract Roaming rates are almost always cheaper then PAYT roaming rates.
Also Contract Roaming will allow you to manually choose which foreign
network
you want to use, handy in areas where the default PAYT Roaming network
maybe weak.
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1ifxn0v.1ihoo29824hb1N%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> > David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Steve Terry <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote:
> >> > "ct392" <ct392@not.real> wrote in message
> >> > news:hnou04hucd145e934jjc50nfsitcadm5oq@4ax.com...
> >> > > Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
> >> > > tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
> >> > > My question is if I can get hold of a old call abroad branded sim,
> >> > > will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
> >> > > rates?
> >> > > Cheers.
> >> > >
> >> > I suspect you would be better off with an old Orange OVP Virgin Sim,
> >> > which would give you Orange contract Roaming rate.
> >>
> >> Is there any difference? The EU forced all the companies to harmonise
> >> their rates to a set amount. Good thing too!
> >
> > Sorry- this only affects EU countries of course...
> >
> Contract Roaming rates are almost always cheaper then PAYT roaming rates.
Maybe- but not for the EU.
> Also Contract Roaming will allow you to manually choose which foreign
> network
> you want to use, handy in areas where the default PAYT Roaming network
> maybe weak.
This must be orange you're talking about? Several other PAYT networks
have long since allowed a choice of networks abroad. I use Tesco mobile-
it was their cheap roaming rates which finally convinced me I didn't
need a contract. Tesco doesn't work in all countries though. Not a big
deal to me, though I've visited some of them where it didn't work.
--
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(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> Contract Roaming rates are almost always cheaper then PAYT roaming
rates.
My wife's PAYG roaming rates are considerably cheaper than my work
contract phone, because of Vodafone Passport (can't get it on my
contract).
> Also Contract Roaming will allow you to manually choose which
foreign
> network
> you want to use, handy in areas where the default PAYT Roaming
network
> maybe weak.
You can do that on PAYG too, on Vodafone at least. Although you won't
get passport rates if you don't use the default.
In article <hnou04hucd145e934jjc50nfsitcadm5oq@4ax.com>, ct392@not.real
says...
> Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
> tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
>
> My question is if I can get hold of a old call aboard branded sim,
> will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
> rates?
The SIM is not relevant, in fact we are using Call Abroad SIMs to
connect customers to Camel. You will be given the choice of animal
package when calling 343 to register - it doesn't matter what type of
SIM you actually buy/obtain.
--
Regards
Jon
In article <1ifxmz1.1luyn2jxhrskN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, d4g4h4
@yahoo.co.uk says...
> Is there any difference? The EU forced all the companies to harmonise
> their rates to a set amount. Good thing too!
Isn't that called price-fixing?
The roaming rates are not identical accross networks in any case.
--
Regards
Jon
> In article <1ifxmz1.1luyn2jxhrskN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, d4g4h4
> @yahoo.co.uk says...
> > Is there any difference? The EU forced all the companies to harmonise
> > their rates to a set amount. Good thing too!
>
> Isn't that called price-fixing?
It's called good sense.
> The roaming rates are not identical accross networks in any case.
No, because some are lower than others, but the upper limit is capped.
If you know of any company charging above the limit, do let me know, and
I'll report them, and they'll be fined. One of the best things the EU
did for consumers in recent years....
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:20:11 +0100, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
wrote:
>In article <hnou04hucd145e934jjc50nfsitcadm5oq@4ax.com>, ct392@not.real
>says...
>> Was going to get a call abroad sim, however looking at the new Camel
>> tariff it looks like calls to my destinations will go up over 100%.
>>
>> My question is if I can get hold of a old call aboard branded sim,
>> will it still be charged at the call abroad rates or the new Camel
>> rates?
>
>The SIM is not relevant, in fact we are using Call Abroad SIMs to
>connect customers to Camel. You will be given the choice of animal
>package when calling 343 to register - it doesn't matter what type of
>SIM you actually buy/obtain.
Hi,
Thanks for the heads up, looks like I will not be returning anytime
soon then.
New Orange PAYG tarrifs 
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