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Old 11-21-2009, 10:54 PM
Andy
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Default Nokia 2720 Fold Internal Memory

I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the official
Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a total of a
stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!. I realised
when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory card so that's
Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to because I have opened it
and been using the phone but Nokia should get done for this if I am right
that they advertise it as having 32mb of internal memory when it only has a
total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor you would expect better from a firm
like Nokia.

Andy.




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Old 11-22-2009, 12:28 AM
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"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
>memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the
>official Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a total
>of a stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!. I
>realised when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory card
>so that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to because I
>have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia should get done for this
>if I am right that they advertise it as having 32mb of internal memory when
>it only has a total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor you would expect better
>from a firm like Nokia.
> Andy.
>
>

The clue is in the model number, it's a 2xxx Nokia which means it'll of had
everything of use left out so as not to conflict with sales of mid range
Nokias

Steve Terry
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:07 AM
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"Steve Terry" <gfourwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:hea447$ne4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
> news:he9ujs$e4u$1@news.datemas.de...
>>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of
>>Internal memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the
>>specifications on the official Nokia UK website only to find
>>the phone seems to have only a total of a stupid 12.5mb Total
>>Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!. I realised when I
>>bought the phone it does not accept an external memory card so
>>that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to
>>because I have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia
>>should get done for this if I am right that they advertise it
>>as having 32mb of internal memory when it only has a total of
>>12.5mb of memory. Very poor you would expect better from a firm
>>like Nokia.
>> Andy.
>>
>>

> The clue is in the model number, it's a 2xxx Nokia which means
> it'll of had
> everything of use left out so as not to conflict with sales of
> mid range
> Nokias
>
> Steve Terry
> --
> Get a free Three 3pay Sim with £2 bonus after £10 top up
> http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276
>
>



Surely isn't a reason for misleading advertising? If the phone is
advertised as having 32Mb and it does not have 32Mb available to
the user then Nokia should explain why. If they don't - and there
is no good reason why - then the OP will have a claim under the
SOGA.

It could of course be that the 32Mb is the chip size and Nokia
are conveniently omitting the memory needed by the phone to
operate.

If it were me I would contact Nokia for an explanation, and if
that is not forthcoming then in the first instance make a
complaint to the ASA. At the same time I would return the phone
to the supplier and reject it under SOGA and see what they have
to say.

Thanks for the tip incidently. I was looking for a 2760 (my wife
has one and it is a real cookie) but was told by CPW that they
are obsolete and replaced by the 2720. I suppose I'll have to
have a good nose around now for something else. Come back 6310i,
all is forgiven.


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Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



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Old 11-22-2009, 01:03 PM
R. Mark Clayton
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"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
news:he9ujs$e4u$1@news.datemas.de...
>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
>memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the
>official Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a total
>of a stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!. I
>realised when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory card
>so that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to because I
>have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia should get done for this
>if I am right that they advertise it as having 32mb of internal memory when
>it only has a total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor you would expect better
>from a firm like Nokia.
>
> Andy.
>
>
>


Nokia do tend to advertise things that aren't in the phone (like Voip in
n-series, which has taken months to sort out).

In this case I think it is fairly obvious that your phone does have 32Mb of
internal memory, but that ~20Mb are occupied by the phone's firmware and
internal data.



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Old 11-22-2009, 01:59 PM
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"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:kpudnauAW-Aa2ZTWnZ2dnUVZ8nGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
> news:he9ujs$e4u$1@news.datemas.de...
>>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
>>memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the
>>official Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a
>>total of a stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!.
>>I realised when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory
>>card so that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to because
>>I have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia should get done for
>>this if I am right that they advertise it as having 32mb of internal
>>memory when it only has a total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor you would
>>expect better from a firm like Nokia.
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Nokia do tend to advertise things that aren't in the phone (like Voip in
> n-series, which has taken months to sort out).
>
> In this case I think it is fairly obvious that your phone does have 32Mb
> of internal memory, but that ~20Mb are occupied by the phone's firmware
> and internal data.
>


do you think so? - if that's the case I haven't got a leg to stand on then
because they will say the phone does have 32mb of memory then.

Andy.




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Old 11-22-2009, 02:02 PM
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"Steve Terry" <gfourwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:hea447$ne4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
> news:he9ujs$e4u$1@news.datemas.de...
>>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
>>memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the
>>official Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a
>>total of a stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!.
>>I realised when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory
>>card so that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to because
>>I have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia should get done for
>>this if I am right that they advertise it as having 32mb of internal
>>memory when it only has a total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor you would
>>expect better from a firm like Nokia.
>> Andy.
>>
>>

> The clue is in the model number, it's a 2xxx Nokia which means it'll of
> had
> everything of use left out so as not to conflict with sales of mid range
> Nokias
>
> Steve Terry
> --
> Get a free Three 3pay Sim with £2 bonus after £10 top up
> http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276
>


i didnt realise about that makes sense i suppose mind you the phone has
bluetooth, fm radio 1.3 camera so lot of features but what use is 12.5mb for
camera and mp3 and other things that memory's gonna be used up in no time.

Andy.




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Old 11-22-2009, 10:16 PM
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"Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message
news:S38Om.66812$_o.27504@newsfe22.ams2...
> "Steve Terry" <gfourwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:hea447$ne4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
>> news:he9ujs$e4u$1@news.datemas.de...
>>>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
>>>memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the
>>>official Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a
>>>total of a stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!.
>>>I realised when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory
>>>card so that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to
>>>because I have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia should get
>>>done for this if I am right that they advertise it as having 32mb of
>>>internal memory when it only has a total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor
>>>you would expect better from a firm like Nokia.
>>> Andy.
>>>

>> The clue is in the model number, it's a 2xxx Nokia which means it'll of
>> had
>> everything of use left out so as not to conflict with sales of mid range
>> Nokias
>> Steve Terry

>
> Surely isn't a reason for misleading advertising? If the phone is
> advertised as having 32Mb and it does not have 32Mb available to the user
> then Nokia should explain why. If they don't - and there is no good reason
> why - then the OP will have a claim under the SOGA.
>
>

It probably does have 32mb if you delete all the applications /
phone book / sms, etc.

I've had camera phones before without expandable slots,
and they've all proved useless
The important thing is to go for a phone with a microSD or similar slot
so you can do your own expansion.

With the Skype S2 so cheap and unlockable, I wouldn't bother looking
at any Nokia 2/3xxx

Steve Terry
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:05 AM
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"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
news:hebjqp$9m4$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:kpudnauAW-Aa2ZTWnZ2dnUVZ8nGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
>> news:he9ujs$e4u$1@news.datemas.de...
>>>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
>>>memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the
>>>official Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a
>>>total of a stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!.
>>>I realised when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory
>>>card so that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to
>>>because I have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia should get
>>>done for this if I am right that they advertise it as having 32mb of
>>>internal memory when it only has a total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor
>>>you would expect better from a firm like Nokia.
>>>
>>> Andy.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Nokia do tend to advertise things that aren't in the phone (like Voip in
>> n-series, which has taken months to sort out).
>>
>> In this case I think it is fairly obvious that your phone does have 32Mb
>> of internal memory, but that ~20Mb are occupied by the phone's firmware
>> and internal data.
>>

>
> do you think so? - if that's the case I haven't got a leg to stand on then
> because they will say the phone does have 32mb of memory then.
>
> Andy.
>
>
>


Well I haven't seen a memory chip that wasn't 2**n since the early seventies
(er which is when they came out)...



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Old 11-23-2009, 01:38 PM
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"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:kpudnauAW-Aa2ZTWnZ2dnUVZ8nGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
> news:he9ujs$e4u$1@news.datemas.de...
>>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
>>memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the
>>official Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a
>>total of a stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!.
>>I realised when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory
>>card so that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to because
>>I have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia should get done for
>>this if I am right that they advertise it as having 32mb of internal
>>memory when it only has a total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor you would
>>expect better from a firm like Nokia.
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Nokia do tend to advertise things that aren't in the phone (like Voip in
> n-series, which has taken months to sort out).
>
> In this case I think it is fairly obvious that your phone does have 32Mb
> of internal memory, but that ~20Mb are occupied by the phone's firmware
> and internal data.
>


Blimey is that not a high percentage of memory to use just for system files
and firmware - it seems high to me.

Andy.




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Old 12-03-2009, 11:27 AM
Andy
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"Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message
news:S38Om.66812$_o.27504@newsfe22.ams2...
> "Steve Terry" <gfourwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:hea447$ne4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
>> news:he9ujs$e4u$1@news.datemas.de...
>>>I am pretty peeved to find that I thought I was getting 32mb of Internal
>>>memory on my Nokia 2720 Fold according to the specifications on the
>>>official Nokia UK website only to find the phone seems to have only a
>>>total of a stupid 12.5mb Total Internal memory and I only have 8mb left!.
>>>I realised when I bought the phone it does not accept an external memory
>>>card so that's Ok but I cannot return the phone now if I wanted to
>>>because I have opened it and been using the phone but Nokia should get
>>>done for this if I am right that they advertise it as having 32mb of
>>>internal memory when it only has a total of 12.5mb of memory. Very poor
>>>you would expect better from a firm like Nokia.
>>> Andy.
>>>
>>>

>> The clue is in the model number, it's a 2xxx Nokia which means it'll of
>> had
>> everything of use left out so as not to conflict with sales of mid range
>> Nokias
>>
>> Steve Terry
>> --
>> Get a free Three 3pay Sim with £2 bonus after £10 top up
>> http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276
>>
>>

>
>
> Surely isn't a reason for misleading advertising? If the phone is
> advertised as having 32Mb and it does not have 32Mb available to the user
> then Nokia should explain why. If they don't - and there is no good reason
> why - then the OP will have a claim under the SOGA.
>
> It could of course be that the 32Mb is the chip size and Nokia are
> conveniently omitting the memory needed by the phone to operate.
>
> If it were me I would contact Nokia for an explanation, and if that is not
> forthcoming then in the first instance make a complaint to the ASA. At the
> same time I would return the phone to the supplier and reject it under
> SOGA and see what they have to say.
>
> Thanks for the tip incidently. I was looking for a 2760 (my wife has one
> and it is a real cookie) but was told by CPW that they are obsolete and
> replaced by the 2720. I suppose I'll have to have a good nose around now
> for something else. Come back 6310i, all is forgiven.
>
>
> --
> Woody
>
> harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
>


I just for the hell of it went onto the Nokia 2720 FOLD on the Nokia USA
website and it reports the internal memory on there as being 10mb Internal
Dynamic Memory whereas the UK Nokia website lists it as having 32 MB
internal dynamic memory!

Andy.




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