Nokia 6210 information

Guys 'n' Gals,

I just bought a car, which had a car kit installed (including cradle,
aerial, speaker and privacy handset). I've not used it yet but, because
the kit was there, the seller included the Nokia 6210 phone, which fits
it. The phone will charge in the cradle but had nothing with it, mains
charger, instruction book, data cable, software, nix. Furthermore I know
nothing about it beyond what I was told, which included that it had a
voice dial facility.

I've tracked down a user guide:

http://nds2.nokia.com/files/support/...a_6210_APAC_UG
_EN.pdf

so I might make some progress but I have a couple of questions that you
might be able to help me with.

1) I believe it does not have bluetooth. Is there a similar phone that
will fit the cradle that does? (I'm wondering about a sat-nav with BT
for traffic updates.)

2) We have a charger that was used with a Nokia 3100. That seems to fit
the charger socket on the phone but does anyone know if it's suitable to
use with the 6210? (Correct o/p voltage, etc.)

Thanks,
--
Peter

In message <cMlS$GCgePGGFwgI@zzmail.org.uk>, The Drone
<wsne@zzmail.org.uk> writes

>I've tracked down a user guide:
>
>http://nds2.nokia.com/files/support/...a_6210_APAC_UG
>_EN.pdf
>
>so I might make some progress but I have a couple of questions that you
>might be able to help me with.
>
>1) I believe it does not have bluetooth.

Correct the 6210 didn't have BT.

>Is there a similar phone that will fit the cradle that does? (I'm
>wondering about a sat-nav with BT for traffic updates.)

If memory serves the 6210 was the 2000 version which was followed by the
6310 in about 2002. I think both fitted the same kit so it might be
worth seeing if anyone has a 6310i that you can try as that does have
BT.

>2) We have a charger that was used with a Nokia 3100. That seems to fit
>the charger socket on the phone but does anyone know if it's suitable
>to use with the 6210? (Correct o/p voltage, etc.)
>
I don't recall what the charger was for the 6210 but the 6310i was 5.7v
800mA and I think that they were both the same.
--
Paul Harris

"The Drone" <wsne@zzmail.org.uk> wrote in message
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<snip>
> 1) I believe it does not have bluetooth. Is there a similar phone that
> will fit the cradle that does? (I'm wondering about a sat-nav with BT for
> traffic updates.)

The 6310i. Perhaps the best phone that Nokia have ever produced, and
available quite cheaply second-hand.

> 2) We have a charger that was used with a Nokia 3100. That seems to fit
> the charger socket on the phone but does anyone know if it's suitable to
> use with the 6210? (Correct o/p voltage, etc.)

The 6210 was originally supplied with an ACP7x charger. This charger is
still used for many modern phones and will work for either the 3100 or the
6210. The later ACP12x charger should also work with both phones.

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"The Drone" <wsne@zzmail.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Guys 'n' Gals,
>
> I just bought a car, which had a car kit installed (including
cradle,
> aerial, speaker and privacy handset). I've not used it yet but,
because
> the kit was there, the seller included the Nokia 6210 phone, which
fits
> it. The phone will charge in the cradle but had nothing with it,
mains
> charger, instruction book, data cable, software, nix. Furthermore I
know
> nothing about it beyond what I was told, which included that it had
a
> voice dial facility.
>
> I've tracked down a user guide:
>
>
http://nds2.nokia.com/files/support/...a_6210_APAC_UG
> _EN.pdf
>
> so I might make some progress but I have a couple of questions that
you
> might be able to help me with.
>
> 1) I believe it does not have bluetooth. Is there a similar phone
that
> will fit the cradle that does? (I'm wondering about a sat-nav with
BT
> for traffic updates.)
>
> 2) We have a charger that was used with a Nokia 3100. That seems to
fit
> the charger socket on the phone but does anyone know if it's
suitable to
> use with the 6210? (Correct o/p voltage, etc.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Peter

You have a Nokia CARK91 fitted. In addition to what you already have,
in most modern cars it can also be made to use the car stereo to feed
the audio instead of using the additional speaker.

The CARK91 will work with any version of 6210 or 6310 phone, but you
do need the latest phone software (5.51 or above) to make it work
properly (*#0000# will show the version.) The 6310i certainly (maybe
the 6310 also) is a tri-band phone whereas the 6210 is only dual band
(do make sure the external aerial is dual band.) There are adapters
available (Nokia and others) to allow the later 'pop' connected phones
to fit in and work with the CARK91 but you may have to search a little
to find them.

One thing you will find however is that the phone will NOT permit the
use of Bluetooth whilst it is in the CARK91 - if BT is switched on
when you plug the phone in it will object - so you will probably not
be able to use it with BT-linked satnav.

As someone else said the 6310 is probably the best (business user)
phone ever produced - which is probably why people hang on to them as
long as possible. By the same token the CARK91 was also probably one
of the best in-car kits also - now superceeded by the CARK123 for
'pop' connected phones - which is pretty well every modern Nokia phone
(as distinct from the pda types.)


--
Woody

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wsne@zzmail.org.uk declared for all the world to hear...
> 1) I believe it does not have bluetooth. Is there a similar phone that
> will fit the cradle that does? (I'm wondering about a sat-nav with BT
> for traffic updates.)

The 6310i. Good luck finding one though.

> 2) We have a charger that was used with a Nokia 3100. That seems to fit
> the charger socket on the phone but does anyone know if it's suitable to
> use with the 6210? (Correct o/p voltage, etc.)

Yes it will, although your will probably never need it.
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> wsne@zzmail.org.uk declared for all the world to hear...
>> 1) I believe it does not have bluetooth. Is there a similar phone that
>> will fit the cradle that does? (I'm wondering about a sat-nav with BT
>> for traffic updates.)
>
> The 6310i. Good luck finding one though.
>
Ahem...
http://www.retrofone.com/product_inf...products_id=94
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>"The Drone" <wsne@zzmail.org.uk> wrote in message
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Thank you all for the replies, most helpful.

>>1) I believe it does not have bluetooth. Is there a similar phone that
>>will fit the cradle that does? (I'm wondering about a sat-nav with BT
>>for traffic updates.)

>>2) We have a charger that was used with a Nokia 3100. That seems to
>>fit the charger socket on the phone but does anyone know if it's
>>suitable to use with the 6210? (Correct o/p voltage, etc.)
Other posters have said that the charger will work with this phone -
should it ever be needed. Since the battery has now run down a bit, I
have plugged the charger in and it all appears to be working properly.

>You have a Nokia CARK91 fitted.
You are quite right. I'd seen the manual for the car kit but hadn't
twigged it was a Nokia kit; I'd assumed it was generic.
>In addition to what you already have, in most modern cars it can also
>be made to use the car stereo to feed the audio instead of using the
>additional speaker.
The car and its radio are three years older than the phone and car kit.
I had been told that the car kit muted the stereo but it doesn't appear
to. I suspect that if I got an appropriate modern stereo, it would have
a feed from the car kit to do as you say.

>The CARK91 will work with any version of 6210 or 6310 phone, but you
>do need the latest phone software (5.51 or above) to make it work
>properly (*#0000# will show the version.)
Version 05.56
>The 6310i certainly (maybe the 6310 also) is a tri-band phone whereas
>the 6210 is only dual band (do make sure the external aerial is dual
>band.)
The aerial is glued(?) to the top of the rear screen and is branded
Vodafone (and about a foot long). I suspect therefore that it isn't
dual-band but, since we use Vodafone, it's not an issue at present. I
guess if we moved to Orange or T-Mobile (or derivatives) we might need
to change the aerial - or it might work better if we do?
>There are adapters available (Nokia and others) to allow the later
>'pop' connected phones to fit in and work with the CARK91 but you may
>have to search a little to find them.
I assume the 'pop' of which you speak is a later version of Nokia's
connection?

>One thing you will find however is that the phone will NOT permit the
>use of Bluetooth whilst it is in the CARK91 - if BT is switched on
>when you plug the phone in it will object - so you will probably not
>be able to use it with BT-linked satnav.
I suppose at the time that the only BT accessory would have been a
headset so there'd be no point with it in a car kit.

That's a blow. On the other hand, since BT won't work in the car kit,
there's little point in getting a different phone. (My wife uses her
phone very little and for calls and text messages only so the other
6310i features will be of little use to her.) I'll need to check the
situation with new stereo/satnav gear. I'd sort of thought that I might
get a combined unit - if I do, perhaps the link to the stereo might
carry the updates for the navigation as well? I have no idea.

>As someone else said the 6310 is probably the best (business user)
>phone ever produced - which is probably why people hang on to them as
>long as possible. By the same token the CARK91 was also probably one
>of the best in-car kits also - now superceeded by the CARK123 for
>'pop' connected phones - which is pretty well every modern Nokia phone
>(as distinct from the pda types.)
It all seems to be pretty good gear, which is gratifying.

Thanks again,
--
Peter

The Drone wrote:

> The car and its radio are three years older than the phone and car kit.
> I had been told that the car kit muted the stereo but it doesn't appear
> to. I suspect that if I got an appropriate modern stereo, it would have
> a feed from the car kit to do as you say.

If the radio has no mute, it is a somewhat trivial matter to install a
relay that cuts power to the radio when the phone rings.

"Steve Dulieu" <steve.dulieu@greenyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.208363c95dd3792498a89d@text.usenet.plus.n et...
>> wsne@zzmail.org.uk declared for all the world to hear...
>>> 1) I believe it does not have bluetooth. Is there a similar phone that
>>> will fit the cradle that does? (I'm wondering about a sat-nav with BT
>>> for traffic updates.)
>>
>> The 6310i. Good luck finding one though.
>>
> Ahem...
> http://www.retrofone.com/product_inf...products_id=94
> --

There's also http://www.nokia6310i.co.uk as well as some of the web dealers.

Regards

Jon.
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"The Drone" <wsne@zzmail.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <PxbSh.7754$xT6.2025@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, harrogate3
> <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes
>
> >"The Drone" <wsne@zzmail.org.uk> wrote in message
> >news:cMlS$GCgePGGFwgI@zzmail.org.uk...
>
> Thank you all for the replies, most helpful.
>
> >>1) I believe it does not have bluetooth. Is there a similar phone
that
> >>will fit the cradle that does? (I'm wondering about a sat-nav with
BT
> >>for traffic updates.)
>
> >>2) We have a charger that was used with a Nokia 3100. That seems
to
> >>fit the charger socket on the phone but does anyone know if it's
> >>suitable to use with the 6210? (Correct o/p voltage, etc.)
> Other posters have said that the charger will work with this phone -
> should it ever be needed. Since the battery has now run down a bit,
I
> have plugged the charger in and it all appears to be working
properly.
>
> >You have a Nokia CARK91 fitted.
> You are quite right. I'd seen the manual for the car kit but hadn't
> twigged it was a Nokia kit; I'd assumed it was generic.
> >In addition to what you already have, in most modern cars it can
also
> >be made to use the car stereo to feed the audio instead of using
the
> >additional speaker.
> The car and its radio are three years older than the phone and car
kit.
> I had been told that the car kit muted the stereo but it doesn't
appear
> to. I suspect that if I got an appropriate modern stereo, it would
have
> a feed from the car kit to do as you say.
>
> >The CARK91 will work with any version of 6210 or 6310 phone, but
you
> >do need the latest phone software (5.51 or above) to make it work
> >properly (*#0000# will show the version.)
> Version 05.56
> >The 6310i certainly (maybe the 6310 also) is a tri-band phone
whereas
> >the 6210 is only dual band (do make sure the external aerial is
dual
> >band.)
> The aerial is glued(?) to the top of the rear screen and is branded
> Vodafone (and about a foot long). I suspect therefore that it isn't
> dual-band but, since we use Vodafone, it's not an issue at present.
I
> guess if we moved to Orange or T-Mobile (or derivatives) we might
need
> to change the aerial - or it might work better if we do?
> >There are adapters available (Nokia and others) to allow the later
> >'pop' connected phones to fit in and work with the CARK91 but you
may
> >have to search a little to find them.
> I assume the 'pop' of which you speak is a later version of Nokia's
> connection?
>
> >One thing you will find however is that the phone will NOT permit
the
> >use of Bluetooth whilst it is in the CARK91 - if BT is switched on
> >when you plug the phone in it will object - so you will probably
not
> >be able to use it with BT-linked satnav.
> I suppose at the time that the only BT accessory would have been a
> headset so there'd be no point with it in a car kit.
>
> That's a blow. On the other hand, since BT won't work in the car
kit,
> there's little point in getting a different phone. (My wife uses her
> phone very little and for calls and text messages only so the other
> 6310i features will be of little use to her.) I'll need to check the
> situation with new stereo/satnav gear. I'd sort of thought that I
might
> get a combined unit - if I do, perhaps the link to the stereo might
> carry the updates for the navigation as well? I have no idea.
>
> >As someone else said the 6310 is probably the best (business user)
> >phone ever produced - which is probably why people hang on to them
as
> >long as possible. By the same token the CARK91 was also probably
one
> >of the best in-car kits also - now superceeded by the CARK123 for
> >'pop' connected phones - which is pretty well every modern Nokia
phone
> >(as distinct from the pda types.)
> It all seems to be pretty good gear, which is gratifying.
>
> Thanks again,
> --
> Peter


Don't be so sure about the aerial - most on-glass types have been dual
band for getting on for a decade. Look on the edge of the internal
unit for a model number and then Google it.

How old is the car and what type/model is the radio. External muting
and/or audio input has been on most radios also for getting on for a
decade. If it is a type with ISO connections (and many are) then all
you need to do is pull the radio out and look at the connections
(you'll find the pinouts again with Google) - ISTR the Nokia mute wire
is yellow (or was it blue?)


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