Nokia N95: do I get FREE GPS navigation?

#1 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 06:44 AM

I want to get the Nokia N95.
Main purpose: having a built in GPS.

But is this free...?
I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!

>From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?

Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?

If you do have to pay Nokia... is it possible instead to install
Tomtom...?

Thanks.

OM

#2 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 07:02 AM

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:44:29 -0700, OM <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote:

>I want to get the Nokia N95.
>Main purpose: having a built in GPS.
>
>But is this free...?
>I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!
>
>>From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
>an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
>PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?
>
>Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?

You think the maps were compiled by some charity, do you?

According to my n95 Nokia Maps costs pennies in real terms:

£47.05 3 year
£40.33 1 year
£5.37 30 day
£4.36 7 day

What other GPS satnav device do you know that costs less than £50 for
three years?

There are free alternatives for the Northerner in us all.
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#3 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 07:07 AM

> You think the maps were compiled by some charity, do you?
I thought Father Christmas gave them away...?

> According to my n95 Nokia Maps costs pennies in real terms:
>
> £47.05 3 year
> £40.33 1 year
> £5.37 30 day
> £4.36 7 day
That sounds like a good deal to me. I'd be happy to pay this.
This isn't stated clearly though - my only gripe.

Thanks.

#4 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 08:09 AM

"OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> You think the maps were compiled by some charity, do you?
I thought Father Christmas gave them away...?

> According to my n95 Nokia Maps costs pennies in real terms:
>
> £47.05 3 year
> £40.33 1 year
> £5.37 30 day
> £4.36 7 day
>That sounds like a good deal to me. I'd be happy to pay this.
>This isn't stated clearly though - my only gripe.

>Thanks.

What you get as a basic service is the ability to see where you are, you pay
to be able to navigate to somewhere.

#5 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 08:55 AM

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> "OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191478072.491519.326250@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com...
>> You think the maps were compiled by some charity, do you?
> I thought Father Christmas gave them away...?
>
>> According to my n95 Nokia Maps costs pennies in real terms:
>>
>> £47.05 3 year
>> £40.33 1 year
>> £5.37 30 day
>> £4.36 7 day
>>That sounds like a good deal to me. I'd be happy to pay this.
>>This isn't stated clearly though - my only gripe.
>
>>Thanks.
>
>
> What you get as a basic service is the ability to see where you are, you
> pay to be able to navigate to somewhere.

www.nav4all.com. Currently free. Just the data charges if you are not on an
unlimited plan

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#6 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 09:27 AM

On 4 Oct, 06:44, OM <om.newsgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to get the Nokia N95.
> Main purpose: having a built in GPS.
>
> But is this free...?
> I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!
>
> >From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
>
> an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
> PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?
>
> Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?
>
> If you do have to pay Nokia... is it possible instead to install
> Tomtom...?
>
> Thanks.
>
> OM

If I were you I'd get the Nokia 6110 Navigator, GPS functionality is a
lot
better than the N95, though it doesn't have WIFI which is a downside.
I sold
my TomTom as the 6110 is that good!

Gareth

#7 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 10:42 AM

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:02:15 +0100, BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net>
wrote:

>>I want to get the Nokia N95.
>>Main purpose: having a built in GPS.
>>
>>But is this free...?
>>I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!
>>
>>>From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
>>an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
>>PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?
>>
>>Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?
>
>You think the maps were compiled by some charity, do you?
>
Yeah, I mean what sort of company would get maps for the whole country
and just give them away! You'd have to be an idiot to even think of
doing something like that. Either that or Google. Or Microsoft. Or
Yahoo.

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#8 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 06:13 PM

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:42:58 +0100, LeeJS <lee@nospamw2designs.co.uk>
wrote:

>>>I want to get the Nokia N95.
>>>Main purpose: having a built in GPS.
>>>
>>>But is this free...?
>>>I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!
>>>
>>>>From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
>>>an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
>>>PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?
>>>
>>>Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?
>>
>>You think the maps were compiled by some charity, do you?
>>
>Yeah, I mean what sort of company would get maps for the whole country
>and just give them away! You'd have to be an idiot to even think of
>doing something like that. Either that or Google. Or Microsoft. Or
>Yahoo.

Can you point me in the direction of the free Google, Microsoft or
Yahoo Satnav service please?
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#9 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 08:40 PM

om.newsgroup@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I want to get the Nokia N95.
> Main purpose: having a built in GPS.
>
> But is this free...?
> I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!
>
> >From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
> an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
> PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?
>
> Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?
>
> If you do have to pay Nokia... is it possible instead to install
> Tomtom...?

Without paying you do not get turn by turn instructions, so basically no
you cannot have free satnav.

It's only £48 for a 3-year licence, which is peanuts. Don't be tight!
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#10 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 08:45 PM

On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:40:59 +0100, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
wrote:

>om.newsgroup@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> I want to get the Nokia N95.
>> Main purpose: having a built in GPS.
>>
>> But is this free...?
>> I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!
>>
>> >From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
>> an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
>> PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?
>>
>> Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?
>>
>> If you do have to pay Nokia... is it possible instead to install
>> Tomtom...?
>
>Without paying you do not get turn by turn instructions, so basically no
>you cannot have free satnav.

Unless you use nav4all which is currently free.

>It's only £48 for a 3-year licence, which is peanuts. Don't be tight!

I agree. I don't use it, but that's because I have a Garmin
Streetpilot 2610 which I use in the car and for motorcycle journies.
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#11 (**permalink**) 10-05-2007, 12:07 AM

> If I were you I'd get the Nokia 6110 Navigator, GPS functionality is a
> lot
> better than the N95, though it doesn't have WIFI which is a downside.
> I sold
> my TomTom as the 6110 is that good!
erm... 6110...? what's that...?
plenty for sale on ebay: but i can't find the phone on sale with any
of the retailers?
is it *better* than the nokia n95?
how big is it...?
n95: i like small... but i'll put up with the n95's size.
the 6110 looks big.

#12 (**permalink**) 10-05-2007, 09:12 PM

"OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I want to get the Nokia N95.
> Main purpose: having a built in GPS.
>
> But is this free...?
> I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!
>
>>From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
> an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
> PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?
>
> Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?
>
> If you do have to pay Nokia... is it possible instead to install
> Tomtom...?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> OM
>
Get a 6110 Navigator, free UK maps, free navigation and a battery that lasts
more than a day.

#13 (**permalink**) 10-05-2007, 09:22 PM

"OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> If I were you I'd get the Nokia 6110 Navigator, GPS functionality is a
>> lot
>> better than the N95, though it doesn't have WIFI which is a downside.
>> I sold
>> my TomTom as the 6110 is that good!
> erm... 6110...? what's that...?
> plenty for sale on ebay: but i can't find the phone on sale with any
> of the retailers?
> is it *better* than the nokia n95?
> how big is it...?
> n95: i like small... but i'll put up with the n95's size.
> the 6110 looks big.
>
The 6110 navigator is smaller than the N95 and available from Vodafone. If
you go for one from them phone them rather than ordering online as they will
give you a better deal if you ask.

I am pleased with mt 6110, satnav is better than N95 with faster locks, as
another poster says, has everying the N95 has except WiFi.

#14 (**permalink**) 10-06-2007, 09:43 AM

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From: "BGN" <nickmooney@spamcop.net>
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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Nokia N95: do I get FREE GPS navigation?

> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:42:58 +0100, LeeJS <lee@nospamw2designs.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>>>I want to get the Nokia N95.
>>>>Main purpose: having a built in GPS.
>>>>
>>>>But is this free...?
>>>>I've read and read and read... and can't find a straight answer!
>>>>
>>>>>From what I've read: maps... you can download for free (else will cost
>>>>an arm and a leg if downloaded while using mobile)... then you have to
>>>>PAY and subscribe to some service offered by Nokia...?
>>>>
>>>>Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?
>>>
>>>You think the maps were compiled by some charity, do you?
>>>
>>Yeah, I mean what sort of company would get maps for the whole country
>>and just give them away! You'd have to be an idiot to even think of
>>doing something like that. Either that or Google. Or Microsoft. Or
>>Yahoo.
>
> Can you point me in the direction of the free Google, Microsoft or
> Yahoo Satnav service please?

That wasn't the point of your original comment was it? Or are you, as part
of an entry in to the World's Most Talented Twat Competition, attempting to
elevate pedantry to a modern art form? The poster didn't suggest that Google
or MS or Yahoo provide sat nav data for free - they don't even provide it
for a cost because it isn't part of their business mode.

Map data is often provided for free by a number of companies, including
Multimap, AA, RAC, Yahoo, Google and MS, to end users for discrete
applications such a point a to point b directions from a web interface.

There are moves to provide gps routing services for free in terms of map
licensing costs and http://www.nav4all.com/ already provides a free GPS
service in this respect as you say elsewhere in this thread. This company,
and others (such as Google), generate their income in other ways.

The 3 year licensing cost for the N95 may indeed seem cheap but it also
represents an archaic business model - especially so when you consider it's
possible for to buy Navtech 2007 or Teleatlas 2007 maps for a one of cost of
about £90 with no need to spend any more money unless you want to upgrade
the maps.

A vanilla N95 is generally considered to be an unsatisfactory gps solution
in terms of functionality and in terms of the costs associated with the
licensing system for map routing.

Gareth.

#15 (**permalink**) 10-06-2007, 01:51 PM

On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:43:06 +0100, "Gareth"
<hotmail.com@dgareth_nospam.com> wrote:

>>>>>Can't I just get tracking from the satellites and use the maps...?
>>>>
>>>>You think the maps were compiled by some charity, do you?
>>>>
>>>Yeah, I mean what sort of company would get maps for the whole country
>>>and just give them away! You'd have to be an idiot to even think of
>>>doing something like that. Either that or Google. Or Microsoft. Or
>>>Yahoo.
>>
>> Can you point me in the direction of the free Google, Microsoft or
>> Yahoo Satnav service please?
>
>That wasn't the point of your original comment was it?

Yes, it was. Which is why he hasn't replied.

>A vanilla N95 is generally considered to be an unsatisfactory gps solution
>in terms of functionality and in terms of the costs associated with the
>licensing system for map routing.

Can you please post proof of this claim so I can research it.
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