orange costs abroad?

I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
can help?

I'm on Orange dolphin £35/month. 300 mins, 400 SMS.

If I travel abroad (to Russia) the orange website tells me SMS will be
50p (phew!) How is this charged?
Do I get 4 or 5 SMS taken off my allowance for each I send or just
charged 50p each time?

Also, is it possible to find the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian
mobile from the UK and the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian mobile
with my phone in Russia?

Any help or useful website for answers greatly appreciated.
Is this info. deliberately difficult to find?

DD

dirt dibbler <dirt.dibbler@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
> can help?
>
> I'm on Orange dolphin £35/month. 300 mins, 400 SMS.
>
> If I travel abroad (to Russia) the orange website tells me SMS will be
> 50p (phew!) How is this charged?
> Do I get 4 or 5 SMS taken off my allowance for each I send or just
> charged 50p each time?

It's 50p each time, and the charge is completely made up by the
operators. They charge almost whatever they want, because they can, with
almost zero competition.

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"dirt dibbler" <dirt.dibbler@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
> can help?
>
> I'm on Orange dolphin £35/month. 300 mins, 400 SMS.
>
> If I travel abroad (to Russia) the orange website tells me SMS will be
> 50p (phew!) How is this charged?
> Do I get 4 or 5 SMS taken off my allowance for each I send or just
> charged 50p each time?

This is one of the ways contracts with inclusive minutes/texts are a rip-off. For
contracts with an allowance of minutes/texts, it would be logical that for more
expensive use of the phone (eg texting abroad, calling 0870 numbers etc) your
allowance gets used up quicker (eg 4 or 5 SMS's taken off for each one as you say).

But usually, they simply charge you extra, and if you're away for a whole month you
could end paying the £35, wasting all your inclusive minutes/texts and being charged
for every call!

--
Andy

dirt dibbler <dirt.dibbler@gmail.com>typed


> I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
> can help?

> I'm on Orange dolphin £35/month. 300 mins, 400 SMS.

> If I travel abroad (to Russia) the orange website tells me SMS will be
> 50p (phew!) How is this charged?
> Do I get 4 or 5 SMS taken off my allowance for each I send or just
> charged 50p each time?

> Also, is it possible to find the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian
> mobile from the UK and the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian mobile
> with my phone in Russia?

> Any help or useful website for answers greatly appreciated.
> Is this info. deliberately difficult to find?

> DD

If you get an Orange Call Abroad PAYG SIM, (£1 from Orange website) you
can text Russia for 15p from the UK.
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/sim/callabroadsim

Roaming with it will probably still cost loads though.

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Edgware.

dirt.dibbler@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
> can help?
>
> I'm on Orange dolphin =A335/month. 300 mins, 400 SMS.
>
> If I travel abroad (to Russia) the orange website tells me SMS will be
> 50p (phew!) How is this charged?

Err, you pay 50p.

> Do I get 4 or 5 SMS taken off my allowance for each I send or just
> charged 50p each time?

Charged each time. Your allowances don't count if you're not in the UK.

> Also, is it possible to find the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian
> mobile from the UK

19p.

> and the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian mobile
> with my phone in Russia?

50p.

> Any help or useful website for answers greatly appreciated.
> Is this info. deliberately difficult to find?

http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla...ice_guides.pdf
--
Regards
Jon

On Apr 22, 8:52 pm, dirt dibbler <dirt.dibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
> can help?
>
> I'm on Orange dolphin £35/month. 300 mins, 400 SMS.
>
> If I travel abroad (to Russia) the orange website tells me SMS will be
> 50p (phew!) How is this charged?
> Do I get 4 or 5 SMS taken off my allowance for each I send or just
> charged 50p each time?
>
> Also, is it possible to find the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian
> mobile from the UK and the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian mobile
> with my phone in Russia?
>
> Any help or useful website for answers greatly appreciated.
> Is this info. deliberately difficult to find?
>
> DD

Look at various mobile Java clients that send via wap/gprs - smsbug,
mobisms, vgsmail, vyke and voipbuster. Vyke is cheap at 2 cents,
though I haven't discovered yet whether Voipbuster's free 250 a month
to your home country still applies when roaming

then you'll just pay Orange the roaming cost of under 2k of data

On Apr 24, 1:45 am, andy <andy.gg...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 8:52 pm, dirt dibbler <dirt.dibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
> > can help?
>
> > I'm on Orange dolphin £35/month. 300 mins, 400 SMS.
>
> > If I travel abroad (to Russia) the orange website tells me SMS will be
> > 50p (phew!) How is this charged?
> > Do I get 4 or 5 SMS taken off my allowance for each I send or just
> > charged 50p each time?
>
> > Also, is it possible to find the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian
> > mobile from the UK and the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian mobile
> > with my phone in Russia?
>
> > Any help or useful website for answers greatly appreciated.
> > Is this info. deliberately difficult to find?
>
> > DD
>
> Look at various mobile Java clients that send via wap/gprs - smsbug,
> mobisms, vgsmail, vyke and voipbuster. Vyke is cheap at 2 cents,
> though I haven't discovered yet whether Voipbuster's free 250 a month
> to your home country still applies when roaming
>
> then you'll just pay Orange the roaming cost of under 2k of data- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for the info. the java clients look like a great idea!
from the orange tarriff it quotes £8 / MB for GPRS abroad.

For my benefit can someone clarify If i'm understanding this
correctly.

1 MB at 1024 or 1000k should give 500 (or so) java SMS's ?
And when roaming and using GPRS it is charged per k therefore orange
will charge less than 2p worth of data per SMS on top of the java
client charge?

Thanks
DD

"dirt dibbler" <dirt.dibbler@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
can help?


Also, is it possible to find the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian
mobile from the UK and the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian mobile
with my phone in Russia?


JP> You can also send a text to 159, containing - say - "FROM RUSSIA" or "TO
NEW ZEALAND" or whatever example, to get the costs returned as a free text.

Regards

--
Jon Pitts
Email: jon@pitts50.co.uk Attachments: files@pitts50.co.uk

dirt dibbler wrote:

> I can't find any useful answers on the orange website, maybe someone
> can help?
>
> I'm on Orange dolphin £35/month. 300 mins, 400 SMS.
>
> If I travel abroad (to Russia) the orange website tells me SMS will be
> 50p (phew!) How is this charged?
> Do I get 4 or 5 SMS taken off my allowance for each I send or just
> charged 50p each time?
>
> Also, is it possible to find the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian
> mobile from the UK and the cost of sending an SMS to a Russian mobile
> with my phone in Russia?
>
> Any help or useful website for answers greatly appreciated.
> Is this info. deliberately difficult to find?
>
> DD

On the same note I am off to Spain for a week soon and although I am
looking forward to a week away from phone calls this is the first time
I am leaving my teenage kids at home. (18 & 18)

I could do with a way of being available for emergencies (for example;
"Where are the toilet rolls kept? How do we turn a light off? Do we
have any more paper plates? etc etc)

Is there a way to use a mobile abroad (Orange-contract) without having
to take out another mortgage?

Thanks

Mark F

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"Mark Ford" <markbfordremoveme@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> On the same note I am off to Spain for a week soon and although I am
> looking forward to a week away from phone calls this is the first time
> I am leaving my teenage kids at home. (18 & 18)
>
> I could do with a way of being available for emergencies (for example;
> "Where are the toilet rolls kept? How do we turn a light off? Do we
> have any more paper plates? etc etc)
>
> Is there a way to use a mobile abroad (Orange-contract) without having
> to take out another mortgage?
>
Get them to text you, and text back. Keep voice calls for absolute emergencys.

Phil

Phil<pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> writes:

> "Mark Ford" <markbfordremoveme@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > On the same note I am off to Spain for a week soon and although I am
> > looking forward to a week away from phone calls this is the first time
> > I am leaving my teenage kids at home. (18 & 18)
> >
> > I could do with a way of being available for emergencies (for example;
> > "Where are the toilet rolls kept? How do we turn a light off? Do we
> > have any more paper plates? etc etc)
> >
> > Is there a way to use a mobile abroad (Orange-contract) without having
> > to take out another mortgage?
> >
> Get them to text you, and text back. Keep voice calls for absolute emergencys.
I forgot, turn off all diverts BEFORE you leave the UK. You need to contact
Orange CS to get this enabled on you account, I can't remember the magic word
that orange use. It will stop you being charged roaming rates for calls which
go to voicemail.

HTH Phil

Phil wrote:

> Phil<pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> writes:
>
> > "Mark Ford" <markbfordremoveme@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > On the same note I am off to Spain for a week soon and although I
> > > am looking forward to a week away from phone calls this is the
> > > first time I am leaving my teenage kids at home. (18 & 18)
> > >
> > > I could do with a way of being available for emergencies (for
> > > example; "Where are the toilet rolls kept? How do we turn a light
> > > off? Do we have any more paper plates? etc etc)
> > >
> > > Is there a way to use a mobile abroad (Orange-contract) without
> > > having to take out another mortgage?
> > >
> > Get them to text you, and text back. Keep voice calls for absolute
> > emergencys.
> I forgot, turn off all diverts BEFORE you leave the UK. You need to
> contact Orange CS to get this enabled on you account, I can't
> remember the magic word that orange use. It will stop you being
> charged roaming rates for calls which go to voicemail.
>
> HTH Phil

Thanks Phil - appreciate your help & advice

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Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote:
: I forgot, turn off all diverts BEFORE you leave the UK. You need to contact
: Orange CS to get this enabled on you account, I can't remember the magic word
: that orange use. It will stop you being charged roaming rates for calls which
: go to voicemail.

I am pretty postive that Orannge sorted this one out several years ago and it
is no longer necessary to do this! There was a post some time back on this
issue which I can (probably) locate if required.

"Brian McIlwrath" <bkm@bkmpc.bnsc.rl.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> : I forgot, turn off all diverts BEFORE you leave the UK.

> I am pretty postive that Orannge sorted this one out several years ago and
> it
> is no longer necessary to do this! There was a post some time back on this
> issue which I can (probably) locate if required.

Yes, I'm with you on this. If it gets diverted to voicemail when roaming you
don't get charged.
You do however get charged the rip-off rate to retrieve your voicemail.
Maybe leave a message to say 'I'm not gonna answer you'.

Alternatively, leave a message to say your two teenage kids are home alone
and are having a 'wild party' (sorry can't remember the 'hip' word for it)
and everyone is welcome! ;-)


--

J B

Brian McIlwrath <bkm@bkmpc.bnsc.rl.ac.uk> writes:

> Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> : I forgot, turn off all diverts BEFORE you leave the UK. You need to contact
> : Orange CS to get this enabled on you account, I can't remember the magic word
> : that orange use. It will stop you being charged roaming rates for calls which
> : go to voicemail.
>
> I am pretty postive that Orannge sorted this one out several years ago and it
> is no longer necessary to do this! There was a post some time back on this
> issue which I can (probably) locate if required.

It was not sorted in August last year, I was on orange up until December,
I got orange to add the option to turn off divert if not answered just before
I took the phone abroad in September. They sent me some SIM updates to get it
to work.

The option is not available to PAYG customers, so if you don't answer, or
you reject a call, the caller can talk out your credit.

Phil

Phil<pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> writes:
>
> It was not sorted in August last year, I was on orange up until December,
> I got orange to add the option to turn off divert if not answered just before
And I've just tried cancelling diverts on my t-mobile phone, and it is broken
there as well.

Phil

Brian McIlwrath <bkm@bkmpc.bnsc.rl.ac.uk> writes:

> Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> : I forgot, turn off all diverts BEFORE you leave the UK. You need to contact
> : Orange CS to get this enabled on you account, I can't remember the magic word
> : that orange use. It will stop you being charged roaming rates for calls which
> : go to voicemail.
>
> I am pretty postive that Orannge sorted this one out several years ago and it
> is no longer necessary to do this! There was a post some time back on this
> issue which I can (probably) locate if required.

Not sure I would trust it, see here
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cgi...49,48922,#roam

Phil

"Brian McIlwrath" <bkm@bkmpc.bnsc.rl.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> : I forgot, turn off all diverts BEFORE you leave the UK. You need to
> contact
> : Orange CS to get this enabled on you account, I can't remember the magic
> word
> : that orange use. It will stop you being charged roaming rates for calls
> which
> : go to voicemail.
>
> I am pretty postive that Orannge sorted this one out several years ago and
> it
> is no longer necessary to do this! There was a post some time back on this
> issue which I can (probably) locate if required.

I'm 100% positive that Orange sorted this one out several years ago. "Double
billing" no longer exists so far as Orange roamers are concerned. A few
minutes on Google turned up the following post, which supports my
experience.

http://tinyurl.com/2hzy2s

Regards

Jon.

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> "Brian McIlwrath" <bkm@bkmpc.bnsc.rl.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:f175kb$k81$1@south.jnrs.ja.net...
>
>> : I forgot, turn off all diverts BEFORE you leave the UK.
>
>> I am pretty postive that Orannge sorted this one out several years ago
>> and it
>> is no longer necessary to do this! There was a post some time back on
>> this
>> issue which I can (probably) locate if required.
>
> Yes, I'm with you on this. If it gets diverted to voicemail when roaming
> you don't get charged.
> You do however get charged the rip-off rate to retrieve your voicemail.
> Maybe leave a message to say 'I'm not gonna answer you'.
>
> Alternatively, leave a message to say your two teenage kids are home alone
> and are having a 'wild party' (sorry can't remember the 'hip' word for it)
> and everyone is welcome! ;-)
>
>
> --
>
> J B
>

I can confirm that you do not get charged for VM left when roaming. I am
based in the US (family is in UK), and I had an orange payg sim up until
lastyear. It roams here and have never been charged for messages that
rolled to VM even while the phone is on. My family leave msgs for me on
the phone, and I just check it from here by calling the orange answer
phone line or whatever it's called.




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