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Old 08-31-2007, 12:28 PM
Rob Nicholson
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Default Orange flat rate data tariff

Sometimes it's easier to ask than try and navigate through a mobile
operators website...

Does Orange have a UK flat rate data tariff/add-on like the T-Mobile
web'n'walk service? I've got an HTC S710 phone which has EDGE support which
I know Orange supports.

Thanks, Rob.



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Old 08-31-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

On 31 Aug, 13:28, "Rob Nicholson" <rob.nicholson@nospam_informed-
direct.com> wrote:
> Sometimes it's easier to ask than try and navigate through a mobile
> operators website...
>
> Does Orange have a UK flat rate data tariff/add-on like the T-Mobile
> web'n'walk service? I've got an HTC S710 phone which has EDGE support which
> I know Orange supports.
>
> Thanks, Rob.


Apparently ,yes if you're a consumer customer, no if you're a business
customer.

It's still a bit of a secret, so try talking to Orange retentions...

(As an Orange Business customer, I still put any data via T-Mobile
Web'n'Walk).

Regards

Simon Clark
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:37 AM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

rob.nicholson@nospam_informed-direct.com declared for all the world to
hear...
> Sometimes it's easier to ask than try and navigate through a mobile
> operators website...
>
> Does Orange have a UK flat rate data tariff/add-on like the T-Mobile
> web'n'walk service? I've got an HTC S710 phone which has EDGE support which
> I know Orange supports.


There is. but you're not going to like the price :-)

http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla...on_extras.html
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:13 AM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 07:37:37 +0100, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
wrote:

>rob.nicholson@nospam_informed-direct.com declared for all the world to
>hear...
>> Sometimes it's easier to ask than try and navigate through a mobile
>> operators website...
>>
>> Does Orange have a UK flat rate data tariff/add-on like the T-Mobile
>> web'n'walk service? I've got an HTC S710 phone which has EDGE support which
>> I know Orange supports.

>
>There is. but you're not going to like the price :-)
>
>http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla...on_extras.html


Is that still orange world only?

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Old 09-01-2007, 08:26 PM
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me@privacy.net declared for all the world to hear...
> Is that still orange world only?


No, it's everything.
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

> It's still a bit of a secret, so try talking to Orange retentions...

LOL!



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Old 09-03-2007, 10:55 AM
Rob Nicholson
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> There is. but you're not going to like the price :-)
>
> http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla...on_extras.html


You are perfectly correct there!!

We're looking at our worldwide business telephones as well, mainly Europe
and USA at the same time. The technology is certainly there but they're
still not exactly making it a good deal are they.

We use Citrix for our remote access solution, it's incredibly powerful. At
present, we connect to wireless access points at airports, hotels, cafes
etc. But with Citrix, I think we eat up about 2MB an hour. For wireless,
this is nothing, drop in the ocean. But the wireless operators are in a
completely different ball park when it comes to capacity. Something like the
80MB I guess at £41 a month would give 1 hour every day. Hmm, maybe that's
not *too* bad.

I assume that "World access" means when you are using an Orange network when
roaming?

The Vodafone tariffs in the UK are getting better. £25 for 3G and 3GB a
month is quite reasonable for a mobile user. The £8.50 per 24 hours in
selected countries and £4.25 per MB in other countries isn't *too* bad. Our
average business traveller might be online for an hour so £8.50 for 2MB
would compare reasonably well with broadband in the hotel. However, I think
that hotels will all soon throw in wireless for free in a few years.

Not easy is it :-)

Cheers, Rob.



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Old 09-03-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

Jon wrote:
> rob.nicholson@nospam_informed-direct.com declared for all the world to
> hear...
>> Sometimes it's easier to ask than try and navigate through a mobile
>> operators website...
>>
>> Does Orange have a UK flat rate data tariff/add-on like the T-Mobile
>> web'n'walk service? I've got an HTC S710 phone which has EDGE support which
>> I know Orange supports.

>
> There is. but you're not going to like the price :-)
>
> http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla...on_extras.html


It's not really unlimited as there's a 1000 MB/month "fair usage
policy." Of course T-Mobile's "unlimited" plan has something similar.

I still do not understand how such advertising is permitted. If the
networks advertised "unlimited inclusive calls within the UK" but only
allowed 1000 minutes/month would that be allowed?
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:48 PM
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> I still do not understand how such advertising is permitted. If the

Tee hee - you should read the (many) discussions over in the virgin media
newsgroups ever since they implemented STM to limit the data rate during
peak time if you are a heavy user. Heavy user is downloading about 600MB I
think.

The arguments over whether it's still unlimited or either whether this is
called capping rages on...

Cheers, Rob.



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Old 09-03-2007, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

rob.nicholson@nospam_informed-direct.com declared for all the world to
hear...
> I assume that "World access" means when you are using an Orange network when
> roaming?


In this context "orange world" means using your orange device as a modem
to access the internet. It doesn't have any meaning in the context of
roaming. In fact roaming data prices are horrendous, typically between
£8 and £20 per Mb!!
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:46 AM
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:48:55 +0100, Rob Nicholson <rob.nicholson@nospam_informed-direct.com> wrote:
>> I still do not understand how such advertising is permitted. If the

>
>Tee hee - you should read the (many) discussions over in the virgin media
>newsgroups ever since they implemented STM to limit the data rate during
>peak time if you are a heavy user. Heavy user is downloading about 600MB I
>think.
>
>The arguments over whether it's still unlimited or either whether this is
>called capping rages on...


Looking at that rate of £88.13 for World Access Max, surely a better deal
would be the (mentioned elsewhere, but not on this webpage) deal of a
daily cap of £1.50 for pay-as-you-use access? If I'm understanding it
right no matter how hard you hammer you don't pay more than £1.50 per day
you use the service, giving a maximum monthly charge of £46.50.

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Old 09-04-2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

> roaming. In fact roaming data prices are horrendous, typically between
> £8 and £20 per Mb!!


Darn... then we will stick with WiFi as the official remote access
connection method for the foreseeable future.

Cheers, Rob.



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Old 09-04-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

> right no matter how hard you hammer you don't pay more than £1.50 per day
> you use the service, giving a maximum monthly charge of £46.50.


Very sensible.

BTW - *why* is the data rate so expensive? Is it because a) they can charge
it so do, b) they are still recouping the silly prices they paid for the 3G
licenses or c) the mobile network really can't handle the data rates that
might get used if it was flat rate?

Cheers, Rob.



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Old 09-05-2007, 09:24 AM
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soruk@bitbucket.eridani.co.uk declared for all the world to hear...
> Looking at that rate of £88.13 for World Access Max, surely a better deal
> would be the (mentioned elsewhere, but not on this webpage) deal of a
> daily cap of £1.50 for pay-as-you-use access? If I'm understanding it
> right no matter how hard you hammer you don't pay more than £1.50 per day
> you use the service, giving a maximum monthly charge of £46.50.


That would seem logical to me.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: Orange flat rate data tariff

rob.nicholson@nospam_informed-direct.com declared for all the world to
hear...
> > right no matter how hard you hammer you don't pay more than £1.50 per day
> > you use the service, giving a maximum monthly charge of £46.50.

>
> Very sensible.
>
> BTW - *why* is the data rate so expensive? Is it because a) they can charge
> it so do, b) they are still recouping the silly prices they paid for the 3G
> licenses or c) the mobile network really can't handle the data rates that
> might get used if it was flat rate?


Probably a combination of all 3!
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