On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:15:05 +0000, Stuart B <> wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:25:36 GMT, "tomScotland"
><tom29@NOSPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Re: Orange Problems In Glasgow Area
>>
>>
>>
>>LOL! Is it the 12th July already stuart?
>
>
>LOL............Do you know I really did not think of that ..!!!!
I did, but couldn't find a way to tie it in with the Orange order
In article <5tviftF1fn726U1@mid.individual.net>, ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...
> I'll resist the temptation to say I think you're trolling, but we're
> really talking about mobile networks, not supermarkets. The comparison is
> not exact and therefore worthless.
>
> I repeat - mobile networks should be able to cope with a recognised
> regular event such as New Year and unless someone comes up with figures to
> prove me wrong, I believe they can afford it.
It's not worth the financial investment for that one single 3-4 hour
window in the entire year.
> Any idea how much it would cost to cope with the once a year traffic
> spike that occurs on NYE?
Dunno, ask someone in Indonesia, apparently they normally send 236
million texts per day, peaking at 419 million in festive periods
(compared to the 200 million the UK was predcted to send last night).
<Stuart B> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:32:07 -0000, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <363jn3dsoliltuog86lcgblb25shq6d11c@4ax.com>, Stuart B <>
> >says...
> >> I'm finding it impossible to send texts at present .Message Fails each
> >> time .I tried also phoning my home phone and that rang out tho'
> >> I'm in the Glasgow G41 area...Orange Network
> >
> >And given the time of year you are suprised by this?
>
> Wll as I said somewhere else a text I sent to myself got the
> "Failed Message " response but the text still got to me and the
> person that I sent the text to has just told me that he got my text
> message TEN times so altho' I was getting the info that the send
> failed they were still getting through .
>
Do you work for a mobile-phone company? -the time you give to it suggests
that you do! -do they pay well??
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.21e426ff882a2e21989691@nntp.aioe.org
> : : In article
> : : <363jn3dsoliltuog86lcgblb25shq6d11c@4ax.com>, Stuart B
> : : <> says...
> : : : I'm finding it impossible to send texts at present
> : : : .Message Fails each time .I tried also phoning my
> : : : home phone and that rang out tho'
> : : : I'm in the Glasgow G41 area...Orange Network
> : :
> : : And given the time of year you are suprised by this?
>
> Yes. The time of year is irrelevant, the network should be designed to
> cope with all eventualities. They make enough money after all.
>
> On the other hand I suppose I shouldn't really be surprised by the
> moneygrabbing lot.
>
> Ivor
>
Scotland was the first place in the UK to get a GSM network, which was in
Edinburgh for the EU conference, they used the first model Motorola 'brick'
phones, now a collector's item!
> Andy Burns <usenet.july2007@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote in message
> <13nleb2side8880@corp.supernews.com>:
>
> >On 01/01/2008 14:52, deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:
> >
> >> Any idea how much it would cost to cope with the once a year traffic
> >> spike that occurs on NYE?
> >
> >Dunno, ask someone in Indonesia, apparently they normally send 236
> >million texts per day, peaking at 419 million in festive periods
> >(compared to the 200 million the UK was predcted to send last night).
>
> What's the population and land mass of indonesia compared to the UK?
The big point is whether the ratio 419/236 is comparable to the
equivalent in this country.
--
Bob Eager
begin 123 a new life...take up Extreme Ironing!
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:50:49 -0000, "Pellucid" <mush@shroom.com> wrote:
><Stuart B> wrote in message
>news:hopkn3dtto57tobfp45rkkdva9cv9n3u3o@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:32:07 -0000, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <363jn3dsoliltuog86lcgblb25shq6d11c@4ax.com>, Stuart B <>
>> >says...
>> >> I'm finding it impossible to send texts at present .Message Fails each
>> >> time .I tried also phoning my home phone and that rang out tho'
>> >> I'm in the Glasgow G41 area...Orange Network
>> >
>> >And given the time of year you are suprised by this?
>>
>> Wll as I said somewhere else a text I sent to myself got the
>> "Failed Message " response but the text still got to me and the
>> person that I sent the text to has just told me that he got my text
>> message TEN times so altho' I was getting the info that the send
>> failed they were still getting through .
>>
>Do you work for a mobile-phone company? -the time you give to it suggests
>that you do! -do they pay well??
>
" The time you give to it " .WTF is that stupid remark supposed to
mean ?
<Stuart B> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:50:49 -0000, "Pellucid" <mush@shroom.com> wrote:
>
> ><Stuart B> wrote in message
> >news:hopkn3dtto57tobfp45rkkdva9cv9n3u3o@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:32:07 -0000, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <363jn3dsoliltuog86lcgblb25shq6d11c@4ax.com>, Stuart B <>
> >> >says...
> >> >> I'm finding it impossible to send texts at present .Message Fails
each
> >> >> time .I tried also phoning my home phone and that rang out tho'
> >> >> I'm in the Glasgow G41 area...Orange Network
> >> >
> >> >And given the time of year you are suprised by this?
> >>
> >> Wll as I said somewhere else a text I sent to myself got the
> >> "Failed Message " response but the text still got to me and the
> >> person that I sent the text to has just told me that he got my text
> >> message TEN times so altho' I was getting the info that the send
> >> failed they were still getting through .
> >>
> >Do you work for a mobile-phone company? -the time you give to it
suggests
> >that you do! -do they pay well??
> >
>
> " The time you give to it " .WTF is that stupid remark supposed to
> mean ?
That you are a sad git. (it's ok, you don't need to remind me that I am
actually subject to having a conversation on this subject too !)
"SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1ia1y3v.slj9xzivzj7nN%steve@italiancar.co.uk
: : Ivor Jones <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
: : : I repeat - mobile networks should be able to cope
: : : with a recognised regular event such as New Year and
: : : unless someone comes up with figures to prove me
: : : wrong, I believe they can afford it.
: :
: : No, it's almost exactly the same situation.
"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.21e4c77b8583ab5f989693@nntp.aioe.org
: : In article <5tviftF1fn726U1@mid.individual.net>,
: : ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...
: : : I'll resist the temptation to say I think you're
: : : trolling, but we're really talking about mobile
: : : networks, not supermarkets. The comparison is not
: : : exact and therefore worthless.
: : :
: : : I repeat - mobile networks should be able to cope
: : : with a recognised regular event such as New Year and
: : : unless someone comes up with figures to prove me
: : : wrong, I believe they can afford it.
: :
: : It's not worth the financial investment for that one
: : single 3-4 hour window in the entire year.
: :
: : I hope you can understand that.
I understand that networks overcharge for SMS. They could invest that
money in the necessary infrastructure.
In article <5u04oqF1fr7hcU1@mid.individual.net>, ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...
> I understand that networks overcharge for SMS. They could invest that
> money in the necessary infrastructure.
But it's not worth it. People will still text their entire phonebook on
ney years eve weather it takes 2 seconds or 2 hours to deliver the
message. None of the UK network give any gaurantees about delivering SMS
in a timely manner.
Still having trouble understanding? I do hope you don't run your own
business.
--
Regards
Jon
<Stuart B> wrote in message
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> I'm finding it impossible to send texts at present .Message Fails each
> time .I tried also phoning my home phone and that rang out tho'
> I'm in the Glasgow G41 area...Orange Network
> Stuart
Oh dear, well contact orange as this is a newsgroup, not orange customer
services. Why do you think the networks are busy. THINK!
<Stuart B> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:20:26 +0000, Stuart B <> wrote:
>
>>On 1 Jan 2008 00:57:43 GMT, "Bob Eager" <rde42@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 00:45:49 UTC, Stuart B <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finding it impossible to send texts at present .Message Fails each
>>>> time .I tried also phoning my home phone and that rang out tho'
>>>> I'm in the Glasgow G41 area...Orange Network
>>>
>>>Typical New Year overload.
>>
>>Yeah .It probably is just that .Everything else gets overloaded so why
>>not mobile networks ..LOL
> That's weird .A Text Message I sent to my own phone gave the "Message
> Failed " message and was still shown in the Outbox as Unsent but it
> also told me a new Text had arrived an it was in my Inbox .???
On 1/1/08 23:57, Andy Burns wrote:
> On 01/01/2008 23:02, Bob Eager wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:36:07 UTC, deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>>
>>> What's the population and land mass of indonesia compared to the UK?
>
> 234m vs 60m population
> 73,5355 mi^2 vs 94,526 sq mi land mass
>
>> The big point is whether the ratio 419/236 is comparable to the
>> equivalent in this country.
>
> Actually those numbers were only for one of their networks (with 55%
> market share).
>
Their population is well over a billion these days.
> Their population is well over a billion these days.
We're talimg about Indonesia here, not China or India, the last census
in 2000 showed 206m, the 2007 estimate is 234m, where do you get a
billion from?
On 2/1/08 09:06, Andy Burns wrote:
> On 02/01/2008 08:37, David Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Their population is well over a billion these days.
>
> We're talimg about Indonesia here, not China or India, the last census
> in 2000 showed 206m, the 2007 estimate is 234m, where do you get a
> billion from?
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:02:54 -0000, "john" <john,nolan@vrs21.co.uk>
wrote:
>
><Stuart B> wrote in message
>news:la6jn3pb4dl9o80l14o7vcuq5a71l6jkc1@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:20:26 +0000, Stuart B <> wrote:
>>
>>>On 1 Jan 2008 00:57:43 GMT, "Bob Eager" <rde42@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 00:45:49 UTC, Stuart B <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm finding it impossible to send texts at present .Message Fails each
>>>>> time .I tried also phoning my home phone and that rang out tho'
>>>>> I'm in the Glasgow G41 area...Orange Network
>>>>
>>>>Typical New Year overload.
>>>
>>>Yeah .It probably is just that .Everything else gets overloaded so why
>>>not mobile networks ..LOL
>> That's weird .A Text Message I sent to my own phone gave the "Message
>> Failed " message and was still shown in the Outbox as Unsent but it
>> also told me a new Text had arrived an it was in my Inbox .???
>
>Think about what you have typed.
>
Ok .I have had a think .Anything useful you want to tell me now ?
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:01:42 -0000, "john" <john,nolan@vrs21.co.uk>
wrote:
>
><Stuart B> wrote in message
>news:363jn3dsoliltuog86lcgblb25shq6d11c@4ax.com.. .
>> I'm finding it impossible to send texts at present .Message Fails each
>> time .I tried also phoning my home phone and that rang out tho'
>> I'm in the Glasgow G41 area...Orange Network
>> Stuart
>
>Oh dear, well contact orange as this is a newsgroup, not orange customer
>services. Why do you think the networks are busy. THINK!
>
Tis is a Newsgroup .Well there you go.I'd never have thought of that .
Well if you care to read the rest of the messages you'll see that the
text I sent got through ( 10 times actually) even tho' it was telling
me the send had failed .
On 2/1/08 12:29, The Drone wrote:
> In article <13nmvibk4629fdf@corp.supernews.com>, David Kennedy
> <davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindo fferyoubastard.invalid>
> writes
>> see
>>
>> <https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/id.html>
>>
>
> Coo ... Now I can choose between the CIA and Wikipedia for references!
>
Not much to choose between them if you're looking for accuracy...
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