On 2006-12-16 17:05:18 +0000, "Graham" <me@privacy.com> said:
> I have purchased an Orange SIM and have given the call-centre the SIM number
> and the IMEI of the handset I have put it in.
>
> What intrigues me, is how my phone is going to pick-up
> the SMS messages that activate the SIM?
>
> What is it "listening" to at present, given that the phone isn't
> registered on any
> network?
Nothing, if the phone has no network, it has no network. It doesn't
keep trying to connect.
Turn the phone off and back on. By the time you've done this, the SIM
will have the 'ok' to log onto the network, and receive the SIM update
messages.
"Chris Boyd" <chrisbboyd@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2006-12-16 17:05:18 +0000, "Graham" <me@privacy.com> said:
>
>> I have purchased an Orange SIM and have given the call-centre the SIM
>> number
>> and the IMEI of the handset I have put it in.
>>
>> What intrigues me, is how my phone is going to pick-up
>> the SMS messages that activate the SIM?
>>
>> What is it "listening" to at present, given that the phone isn't
>> registered on any
>> network?
>
> Nothing, if the phone has no network, it has no network. It doesn't keep
> trying to connect.
>
> Turn the phone off and back on. By the time you've done this, the SIM
> will have the 'ok' to log onto the network, and receive the SIM update
> messages.
>
> Chris
Ah that makes sense, and of course, it worked.
The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then switch the phone off
and on.
--
Graham wrote:
> The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then switch the phone off
> and on.
The phone would periodically try to re-register, prompting the delivery
of the SMS. If you weren't looking, it would seem as if the text
arrived to activate the phone.
Still, I'm sure OCS still tell you to charge your battery for 16 hours
before turning the phone on!
"Jonathan Morris" <j.morris@jmcomms.com> wrote in message
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> Graham wrote:
> > The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then
> > switch the phone off and on.
>
> The phone would periodically try to re-register,
> prompting the delivery of the SMS. If you weren't
> looking, it would seem as if the text arrived to activate
> the phone.
>
> Still, I'm sure OCS still tell you to charge your battery
> for 16 hours before turning the phone on!
Which is still good advice for the first couple of charges. I have
batteries 6 years old that are still going strong on my 6310i.
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Jonathan Morris" <j.morris@jmcomms.com> wrote in message
> news:1166393073.952163.311960@79g2000cws.googlegro ups.com
>> Graham wrote:
>> > The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then
>> > switch the phone off and on.
>>
>> The phone would periodically try to re-register,
>> prompting the delivery of the SMS. If you weren't
>> looking, it would seem as if the text arrived to activate
>> the phone.
>>
>> Still, I'm sure OCS still tell you to charge your battery
>> for 16 hours before turning the phone on!
>
> Which is still good advice for the first couple of charges. I have
> batteries 6 years old that are still going strong on my 6310i.
>
> Ivor
This is a Nokia 3410 that I have resurrected for my son after being
in a drawer for a year (the phone, not my son).
Initially it was reluctant to take a charge and it sometimes said
"re-connect charger" in the display, a message I don't recall seeing
when the phone was new.
Anyway I persevered, and cycled the battery a few times and
now it seems fine.
The SIM came from a local market stall, GBP7.95 for an Orange
SIM with GBP10 of credit. The credit turned out to be an EPOS
genarated voucher from CPW. What he didn't tell me is that
once registered, the SIM has a pound of short-term credit so that
was GBP11 worth of credit for GBP7.95 plus a free SIM.
On 2006-12-17 22:04:33 +0000, "Jonathan Morris" <j.morris@jmcomms.com> said:
> Graham wrote:
>> The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then switch the phone off
>> and on.
>
> The phone would periodically try to re-register, prompting the delivery
> of the SMS. If you weren't looking, it would seem as if the text
> arrived to activate the phone.
Incorrect actually, as discussed here a few months ago (on the topic
with the phone for the child with an inactive SIM IIRC) the phone tries
to register once at start-up and then no more.
You need to restart the phone to remove the 'inactive SIM' message and
prompt the network registration and SIM updates.
me@privacy.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I have purchased an Orange SIM and have given the call-centre the SIM number
> and the IMEI of the handset I have put it in.
>
> What intrigues me, is how my phone is going to pick-up
> the SMS messages that activate the SIM?
The same way any other SMS message is received.
> What is it "listening" to at present, given that the phone isn't registered
> on any
> network?
By the time you have finished registering, switch the phone of and back
on again it will attempt to register on the network, and this time it
will work.
--
Regards
Jon
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