Whoops... Don't forget to put the clocks back before you go to bed on
Saturday night! Doh
"Fatbøy øf the Underwørld" <uk.fatboy@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
>
"John" <me@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Fatbøy øf the Underwørld wrote:
> > Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
> >
> >
> No they don't, they go back one hour...
>
> John.
Why can't we just stay on GMT and be done with it..? All this talk of it
getting dark earlier and kids coming home from school in the dark is
eyewash if you ask me.
The number of hours of daylight doesn't magically change when the clocks
are adjusted, all it means is that people sleep an extra hour of daylight
away in the mornings and then complain that it isn't light enough later
on.
Why can't people just get up an hour earlier and go to bed an hour
earlier, then nothing would change and we wouldn't have to fiddle with
countless clocks..! Start work at 8 instead of 9 in the winter months, is
that so hard to comprehend..?!
I work for a bus company and I have a huge number of clocks on our
on-board CCTV systems to adjust this weekend..! The newer digital systems
are self adjusting, but there are still 80+ VHS-based systems that I have
to adjust manually. It takes me almost a full day twice a year, I could do
without it..!
Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
> "John" <me@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:NAL0h.6210$p8.5403@newsfe3-win.ntli.net
>> Fatbøy øf the Underwørld wrote:
>>> Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
>>>
>>>
>> No they don't, they go back one hour...
>>
>> John.
>
> Why can't we just stay on GMT and be done with it..? All this talk of
> it getting dark earlier and kids coming home from school in the dark
> is eyewash if you ask me.
>
No, way. I'd rather have light evenings / nights in the summer, so would
rather have 2 hours added during the Summer that is be on CEST, have no
problem moving clocks forwards and backwards so will be happy to follow
many other European countries and addopt CET/CEST.
> The number of hours of daylight doesn't magically change when the
> clocks are adjusted, all it means is that people sleep an extra hour
> of daylight away in the mornings and then complain that it isn't
> light enough later on.
>
> Why can't people just get up an hour earlier and go to bed an hour
> earlier, then nothing would change and we wouldn't have to fiddle with
> countless clocks..! Start work at 8 instead of 9 in the winter
> months, is that so hard to comprehend..?!
>
> I work for a bus company and I have a huge number of clocks on our
> on-board CCTV systems to adjust this weekend..! The newer digital
> systems are self adjusting, but there are still 80+ VHS-based systems
> that I have to adjust manually. It takes me almost a full day twice a
> year, I could do without it..!
>
> Ivor
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
wrote in message
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> Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
> > "John" <me@virgin.net> wrote in message
> > news:NAL0h.6210$p8.5403@newsfe3-win.ntli.net
> > > Fatbøy øf the Underwørld wrote:
> > > > Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > No they don't, they go back one hour...
> > >
> > > John.
> >
> > Why can't we just stay on GMT and be done with it..?
> > All this talk of it getting dark earlier and kids
> > coming home from school in the dark is eyewash if you
> > ask me.
>
> No, way. I'd rather have light evenings / nights in the
> summer, so would rather have 2 hours added during the
> Summer that is be on CEST, have no problem moving clocks
> forwards and backwards so will be happy to follow many
> other European countries and addopt CET/CEST.
But the daylight is there..! You are in bed in the morning..! Get up and
start work earlier, then it will still be light when you finish..!
> > The number of hours of daylight doesn't magically
> > change when the clocks are adjusted, all it means is
> > that people sleep an extra hour of daylight away in the
> > mornings and then complain that it isn't light enough
> > later on. Why can't people just get up an hour earlier and go to
> > bed an hour earlier, then nothing would change and we
> > wouldn't have to fiddle with countless clocks..! Start
> > work at 8 instead of 9 in the winter months, is that so
> > hard to comprehend..?!
I note you didn't comment on this point, could it be that I'm right..? ;-)
> > I work for a bus company and I have a huge number of
> > clocks on our on-board CCTV systems to adjust this
> > weekend..! The newer digital systems are self
> > adjusting, but there are still 80+ VHS-based systems
> > that I have to adjust manually. It takes me almost a
> > full day twice a year, I could do without it..!
>
> Is it not part of your job? :-)
Yes, but it takes me a day to do, and my other work doesn't go away. It's
*extra* work that I could do without..!
In message <Bu6dnXUsGdf4Gd7YRVnyhw@bt.com>, Fatbøy øf the Underwørld
<uk.fatboy@googlemail.com> writes
>Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
>
>
No, backwards !!
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In message <4qhfvjFmu183U1@individual.net>, Ivor Jones
<ivor@despammed.invalid> writes
>
>Why can't we just stay on GMT and be done with it..? All this talk of it
>getting dark earlier and kids coming home from school in the dark is
>eyewash if you ask me.
>
Ahh but think of all the problems if the rest of Europe doesn't sink up
with us. Or the USA still carries on with changing it's clocks. You'd
still have to wonder what the time was in Paris and what time to call
Fred in New York !!
We're now part of a global economy and reverting to GMT all year would
cause mayhem.
"John" <me@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Fatbøy øf the Underwørld wrote:
>> Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
> No they don't, they go back one hour...
>
ROFL
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Ivor Jones wrote:
> "John" <me@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:NAL0h.6210$p8.5403@newsfe3-win.ntli.net
> > Fatbøy øf the Underwørld wrote:
> > > Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
> > >
> > >
> > No they don't, they go back one hour...
> >
> > John.
>
> Why can't we just stay on GMT and be done with it..? All this talk of it
> getting dark earlier and kids coming home from school in the dark is
> eyewash if you ask me.
>
> The number of hours of daylight doesn't magically change when the clocks
> are adjusted, all it means is that people sleep an extra hour of daylight
> away in the mornings and then complain that it isn't light enough later
> on.
>
> Why can't people just get up an hour earlier and go to bed an hour
> earlier, then nothing would change and we wouldn't have to fiddle with
> countless clocks..! Start work at 8 instead of 9 in the winter months, is
> that so hard to comprehend..?!
>
> I work for a bus company and I have a huge number of clocks on our
> on-board CCTV systems to adjust this weekend..! The newer digital systems
> are self adjusting, but there are still 80+ VHS-based systems that I have
> to adjust manually. It takes me almost a full day twice a year, I could do
> without it..!
>
> Ivor
We only change the clocks to placate the Scots, where, if we didn't it
wouldn't get light till about 0900 up there. Remember they have their
own Parliament now. Scottish MP's can vote on matters English in
Westminster. English MP's can't vote on matters Scottish ! Great
democracy eh ?
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> wrote in message
> news:AcN0h.43070$r61.39888@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk
>> Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
>>> "John" <me@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>> news:NAL0h.6210$p8.5403@newsfe3-win.ntli.net
>>>> Fatbøy øf the Underwørld wrote:
>>>>> Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> No they don't, they go back one hour...
>>>>
>>>> John.
>>>
>>> Why can't we just stay on GMT and be done with it..?
>>> All this talk of it getting dark earlier and kids
>>> coming home from school in the dark is eyewash if you
>>> ask me.
>>
>> No, way. I'd rather have light evenings / nights in the
>> summer, so would rather have 2 hours added during the
>> Summer that is be on CEST, have no problem moving clocks
>> forwards and backwards so will be happy to follow many
>> other European countries and addopt CET/CEST.
>
> But the daylight is there..! You are in bed in the morning..! Get up
> and start work earlier, then it will still be light when you finish..!
Hmm. I have to start work at 21:00 can't start that earlier, those are
my hours.
I finish at 05:00 so am already awake.
>
>>> The number of hours of daylight doesn't magically
>>> change when the clocks are adjusted, all it means is
>>> that people sleep an extra hour of daylight away in the
>>> mornings and then complain that it isn't light enough
>>> later on. Why can't people just get up an hour earlier and go to
>>> bed an hour earlier, then nothing would change and we
>>> wouldn't have to fiddle with countless clocks..! Start
>>> work at 8 instead of 9 in the winter months, is that so
>>> hard to comprehend..?!
>
> I note you didn't comment on this point, could it be that I'm
> right..? ;-)
No, you're not right.
I don't start work at 09:00 I start work at 21:00. I like the vast
majority of people have no way of being able to change their hours of
work.
Not hard to comprehend at all, but extremely hard to impliment when the
place you work for only opens at certain times and won't allow you to
change your hours.
>
>>> I work for a bus company and I have a huge number of
>>> clocks on our on-board CCTV systems to adjust this
>>> weekend..! The newer digital systems are self
>>> adjusting, but there are still 80+ VHS-based systems
>>> that I have to adjust manually. It takes me almost a
>>> full day twice a year, I could do without it..!
>>
>> Is it not part of your job? :-)
>
> Yes, but it takes me a day to do, and my other work doesn't go away.
> It's *extra* work that I could do without..!
>
> Ivor
"Edward Cowling London UK" <edward@genghis0.demon.co.uk>
wrote in message news:lEnCiCG4u6QFFwL3@genghis0.demon.co.uk
[snip]
> Ahh but think of all the problems if the rest of Europe
> doesn't sink up with us. Or the USA still carries on with
> changing it's clocks. You'd still have to wonder what the
> time was in Paris and what time to call Fred in New York
> !!
You think that's bad, I have friends in Arizona, where they don't change
clocks at all. If you live on one side of the state line and work on the
other, it's a devil of a job to know when to get up in time for work..!
> We're now part of a global economy and reverting to GMT
> all year would cause mayhem.
No more than the mayhem involved in changing 80+ clocks, which I've got to
do this weekend..!
> > We're now part of a global economy and reverting to GMT
> > all year would cause mayhem.
>
> No more than the mayhem involved in changing 80+ clocks, which I've got to
> do this weekend..!
That's your personal mayhem, though.
For the majority of the rest of us, changing clocks is much easier than
having to change business hours.
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In message <1162063443.825176.173780@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"laurie_dunkley@despammed.com" <laurie_dunkley@despammed.com> writes
>
>We only change the clocks to placate the Scots, where, if we didn't it
>wouldn't get light till about 0900 up there.
No-one up here needs placating by a bunch of softie southerners. We
know when we are well off - we have far more daylight hours than London
during the summer, and we are at least 500 miles away from London for
the whole year :-)
> Remember they have their
>own Parliament now. Scottish MP's can vote on matters English in
>Westminster. English MP's can't vote on matters Scottish ! Great
>democracy eh ?
You mean Scotland rules England? Sounds reasonable.
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<laurie_dunkley@despammed.com> wrote in message
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>
> We only change the clocks to placate the Scots, where, if we didn't it
> wouldn't get light till about 0900 up there.
Not another one...we change the clocks to give an extra hour in the evening *in the
summer*, that's why it's called "daylight saving time", or "British Summer Time".
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:52:06 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid>
wrote:
>No more than the mayhem involved in changing 80+ clocks, which I've got to
>do this weekend..!
>
>Ivor
>
Ivor, let's just consider the logistics of what you are proposing.
Every single worker in the UK that has a contract of employment would have
to have it changed. I believe the statutory notice period for changes to
employment contracts is 12 weeks. Add to this the *huge* HR undertaking of
getting every individual contract or addendum to contract produced and
distributed.
Every single computer system in the land that performed automated tasks
would have to be reprogrammed to fit in with the new hours.
The Stock Exchange and financial institutions would have to adhere to these
new hours..potentially putting them further out or sync with foreign
markets all over the world.
All opening hours or hours of business would have to be republished..for
just about every business in the land.
Essentially our whole way of life would have to change for 6 months of the
year.
Hmmm when compared to changing a few clocks...I know what I'd choose!
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>No-one up here needs placating by a bunch of softie southerners. We
>know when we are well off - we have far more daylight hours than London
>during the summer, and we are at least 500 miles away from London for
>the whole year :-)
And some would say..that's not nearly far enough ;o)
>You mean Scotland rules England? Sounds reasonable.
Why not..every other bloody race on the planet seems to anyway!
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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
>> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
>> wrote in message
>> news:AcN0h.43070$r61.39888@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk
>>> Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
>>>> "John" <me@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:NAL0h.6210$p8.5403@newsfe3-win.ntli.net
>>>>> Fatbøy øf the Underwørld wrote:
>>>>>> Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No they don't, they go back one hour...
>>>>>
>>>>> John.
>>>>
>>>> Why can't we just stay on GMT and be done with it..?
>>>> All this talk of it getting dark earlier and kids
>>>> coming home from school in the dark is eyewash if you
>>>> ask me.
>>>
>>> No, way. I'd rather have light evenings / nights in the
>>> summer, so would rather have 2 hours added during the
>>> Summer that is be on CEST, have no problem moving clocks
>>> forwards and backwards so will be happy to follow many
>>> other European countries and addopt CET/CEST.
>>
>> But the daylight is there..! You are in bed in the morning..! Get up
>> and start work earlier, then it will still be light when you finish..!
>
>
> Hmm. I have to start work at 21:00 can't start that earlier, those are
> my hours.
>
> I finish at 05:00 so am already awake.
So, if it makes no difference to you because you can't change, what are
you winging about? Either way does mean nowt tot you!>
Andy Pandy wrote:
> <laurie_dunkley@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:1162063443.825176.173780@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> We only change the clocks to placate the Scots, where, if we didn't it
>> wouldn't get light till about 0900 up there.
>
> Not another one...we change the clocks to give an extra hour in the evening *in the
> summer*, that's why it's called "daylight saving time", or "British Summer Time".
>
> --
> Andy
>
>
JC wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:52:06 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>> No more than the mayhem involved in changing 80+ clocks, which I've got to
>> do this weekend..!
>>
>> Ivor
>>
>
>
> Ivor, let's just consider the logistics of what you are proposing.
>
> Every single worker in the UK that has a contract of employment would have
> to have it changed. I believe the statutory notice period for changes to
> employment contracts is 12 weeks. Add to this the *huge* HR undertaking of
> getting every individual contract or addendum to contract produced and
> distributed.
>
> Every single computer system in the land that performed automated tasks
> would have to be reprogrammed to fit in with the new hours.
most computer systems do it auto anyway.
To change would take, oooh, all of 5 mins? max?
Only IT department would whinge about that.
>
> The Stock Exchange and financial institutions would have to adhere to these
> new hours..potentially putting them further out or sync with foreign
> markets all over the world.
So?
They already are. Which is partly why the sad twats in the "city" are
such scaredycats & follow religiously what wall street does (you know
the analogy about sneezing & catching colds, I presume, don't you?).
>
> All opening hours or hours of business would have to be republished..for
> just about every business in the land.
Bollocks.
The opening hours would remain the same you divot!
If you start work at 9:00 you would still start work at 9:00. the same
if you started at 21:00 etc...
>
> Essentially our whole way of life would have to change for 6 months of the
> year.
>
> Hmmm when compared to changing a few clocks...I know what I'd choose!
I'm not sure you know anything.
I hope your bed isn't against a wall otherwise you'd probably bang your
head as you got up each morning.
Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> "John" <me@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:NAL0h.6210$p8.5403@newsfe3-win.ntli.net
> > Fatbøy øf the Underwørld wrote:
> > > Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
> > >
> > >
> > No they don't, they go back one hour...
> >
> > John.
>
> Why can't we just stay on GMT and be done with it..? All this talk of it
> getting dark earlier and kids coming home from school in the dark is
> eyewash if you ask me.
>
> The number of hours of daylight doesn't magically change when the clocks
> are adjusted, all it means is that people sleep an extra hour of daylight
> away in the mornings and then complain that it isn't light enough later
> on.
>
> Why can't people just get up an hour earlier and go to bed an hour
> earlier, then nothing would change and we wouldn't have to fiddle with
> countless clocks..! Start work at 8 instead of 9 in the winter months, is
> that so hard to comprehend..?!
>
> I work for a bus company and I have a huge number of clocks on our
> on-board CCTV systems to adjust this weekend..! The newer digital systems
> are self adjusting, but there are still 80+ VHS-based systems that I have
> to adjust manually. It takes me almost a full day twice a year, I could do
> without it..!
>
> Ivor
Personally, I think they should alter the working / school day from
11:00am until 3:30pm.
That way we get daylight throughout the working day...
All you have to remember every year is
"Spring Forward"
"Fall Back"
Thats how I always rember.
"Edward Cowling London UK" <edward@genghis0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <Bu6dnXUsGdf4Gd7YRVnyhw@bt.com>, Fatbøy øf the Underwørld
> <uk.fatboy@googlemail.com> writes
>>Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
>>
>>
> No, backwards !!
> --
> Edward Cowling London UK www.teamseer.com
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:06:21 +0100, "Dave F." <df@maas.cu.uk> wrote:
>Bollocks.
>The opening hours would remain the same you divot!
>If you start work at 9:00 you would still start work at 9:00. the same
>if you started at 21:00 etc...
>
>
>
>>
>> Essentially our whole way of life would have to change for 6 months of the
>> year.
>>
>> Hmmm when compared to changing a few clocks...I know what I'd choose!
>
>I'm not sure you know anything.
>I hope your bed isn't against a wall otherwise you'd probably bang your
>head as you got up each morning.
You clueless twat!!
Why don't you read what this thread is about you fuckwit.
What was being proposed is that rather than change the clocks..people
should just change their working hours..so rather than start work at
9am..they start at 8am
So explain to me how in that scenario..working hours would stay the
same???? Prat!!!
It really amuses me when a wanker like you comes into a thread and hurls
insults around..and is then shown to be a complete fucking idiot.
Run along now, you gimp!
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"Debbie Stevens" <debbie.stevens@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> All you have to remember every year is
> "Spring Forward"
> "Fall Back"
> Thats how I always rember.
> "Edward Cowling London UK" <edward@genghis0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:fUPMmgFZs6QFFwMZ@genghis0.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <Bu6dnXUsGdf4Gd7YRVnyhw@bt.com>, Fatbøy øf the Underwørld
>> <uk.fatboy@googlemail.com> writes
>>>Remember, they go forward one hour tonight.
>>>
>>>
>> No, backwards !!
>> --
>> Edward Cowling London UK www.teamseer.com
>
>
Al
Stop bleating (who has 80 clocks? - unless you're a business or some weirdo
who collects clocks from car boot sales)
"Dave F." <df@maas.cu.uk> wrote in message
news:b62dnUmy39Lbcd7YnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@brightview.c om...
> Andy Pandy wrote:
> > <laurie_dunkley@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > news:1162063443.825176.173780@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> We only change the clocks to placate the Scots, where, if we didn't it
> >> wouldn't get light till about 0900 up there.
> >
> > Not another one...we change the clocks to give an extra hour in the evening *in
the
> > summer*, that's why it's called "daylight saving time", or "British Summer Time".
> >
> >
>
> Err, yes, and?
Try reading the bit I quoted. There seem to be a lot of clueless people who think
changing the clocks is all about making it lighter in winter mornings for the Scots.
Odie Ferrous <odie_ferrous@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> Personally, I think they should alter the working / school day from
> 11:00am until 3:30pm.
>
> That way we get daylight throughout the working day...
>
>
Don't need daylight when I am at work, the big problem is they shift the clocks
the wrong way in the winter.
"mikes" <mikes01666@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4544702e@212.67.96.135
[snip]
> Stop bleating (who has 80 clocks? - unless you're a
> business or some weirdo who collects clocks from car boot
> sales)
The clocks concerned are incorporated into the CCTV video recording
systems on the buses owned by the bus company I work for, in order that
the CCTV footage is correctly dated/timestamped if required for evidence
by police, etc. in the event of an onboard incident.
I have enough work to do without spending the best part of a full day
adjusting clocks..!
> Lidl are doing Radio controlled clocks for £7.99.
>
> Never adjust a clock again.
The newer digital systems do self-adjust, but we still have an awful lot
of old VHS-based systems.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "mikes" <mikes01666@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4544702e@212.67.96.135
>
> [snip]
>
>> Stop bleating (who has 80 clocks? - unless you're a
>> business or some weirdo who collects clocks from car boot
>> sales)
>
> The clocks concerned are incorporated into the CCTV video recording
> systems on the buses owned by the bus company I work for, in order that
> the CCTV footage is correctly dated/timestamped if required for evidence
> by police, etc. in the event of an onboard incident.
>
> I have enough work to do without spending the best part of a full day
> adjusting clocks..!
>
>> Lidl are doing Radio controlled clocks for £7.99.
>>
>> Never adjust a clock again.
>
> The newer digital systems do self-adjust, but we still have an awful lot
> of old VHS-based systems.
>
> Ivor
>
>
Why not just adjust them to GMT, and leave them as that?
If you get your company to issue a policy memo saying that all CCTV
clocks will be set to GMT year round, you should be covered (IANAL)
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"bigegg" <news@hardboiled.plus.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
> Why not just adjust them to GMT, and leave them as that?
>
> If you get your company to issue a policy memo saying
> that all CCTV clocks will be set to GMT year round, you
> should be covered (IANAL)
Hmm, could be worth a try..! Not sure how the police would react if it
ends up being used in court though.
OT: Don't forget to adjust your clocks! 
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