PAYG v Contract Phones.

Some networks are saying that PAYG handsets are technically inferior
to contract handsets and refuse to put them on to a contract. Is this
correct or is it a load of bumph put about for commercial reasons?

Would an unlocked PAYG Nokia 6300 be every bit as good as a genuine
SIM-free Nokia 6300?

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Alasdair.

"Alasdair" <mail@bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote in message
news:uof8u3ddqa199gjm90eau1hcn9mg66rj49@4ax.com
: Some networks are saying that PAYG handsets are
: technically inferior to contract handsets and refuse to
: put them on to a contract. Is this correct or is it a
: load of bumph put about for commercial reasons?

Eh..? Who is saying this and where..? Do you have any links..?

: Would an unlocked PAYG Nokia 6300 be every bit as good
: as a genuine SIM-free Nokia 6300?

A handset is a handset, regardless of whether a PAYG or contract SIM is
put in it. It's true that some networks restrict certain facilities on
PAYG (you can't control diverts on Orange PAYG, for example) but that's
got bugger all to do with what phone the SIM is in.

Ivor

On 2008-03-21, Alasdair <mail@bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote:
> Some networks are saying that PAYG handsets are technically inferior
> to contract handsets and refuse to put them on to a contract. Is this
> correct or is it a load of bumph put about for commercial reasons?
>
> Would an unlocked PAYG Nokia 6300 be every bit as good as a genuine
> SIM-free Nokia 6300?

It's certainly possible for a service provider to put their own 'firmware'
onto a handset they provide 'free' or at a subsidised price, which might
disable or restrict some of the hardware capabilities.

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"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2008-03-21, Alasdair <mail@bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote:
>> Some networks are saying that PAYG handsets are technically inferior
>> to contract handsets and refuse to put them on to a contract. Is this
>> correct or is it a load of bumph put about for commercial reasons?
>>
Utter lies
>
>> Would an unlocked PAYG Nokia 6300 be every bit as good as a genuine
>> SIM-free Nokia 6300?
>
There is no difference
i.e.when a network will allow it, CPW supply the same unlocked GSM stock
for all use
>
> It's certainly possible for a service provider to put their own 'firmware'
> onto a handset they provide 'free' or at a subsidised price, which might
> disable or restrict some of the hardware capabilities.
> Whiskers
>
>
In which rare case you would then have it reflashed.

Steve Terry

In article <uof8u3ddqa199gjm90eau1hcn9mg66rj49@4ax.com>,
mail@bobaxter.coo.uk says...
> Some networks are saying that PAYG handsets are technically inferior
> to contract handsets and refuse to put them on to a contract. Is this
> correct or is it a load of bumph put about for commercial reasons?

It's not correct. A handset is a handset. It's the SIM card that
determines what services on the network a handset can or cannot access.
Networks do not say that, ill-informed sales advisors do.

> Would an unlocked PAYG Nokia 6300 be every bit as good as a genuine
> SIM-free Nokia 6300?

SInce there is no difference you can work out the answer for yourself.
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Regards
Jon

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:51:18 -0000, "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net>
wrote:


>> It's certainly possible for a service provider to put their own 'firmware'
>> onto a handset they provide 'free' or at a subsidised price, which might
>> disable or restrict some of the hardware capabilities.
>> Whiskers
>>
>>
>In which rare case you would then have it reflashed.

I have a Nokia E61 which is branded to 3 which means when I change to
PAYG at the end of the contract on another network I cant use
Wifi/sip/internet because it is trying to connect to 3 portal and the
nokia firmware won't allow change to connection if initial connect
fails..
I asked my local market trader if he could debrand it he said he could
reflash it but could not guarantee debranding.

Basically is there any difference between debranding and reflashing if
you have basic flash files I want to get it debranded for 20 gbp but
he says he can only reflash it i'm confused.
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Gwyn. gwyndewey@3mailrem.com
Remove rem if replying

Jon wrote:
> In article <uof8u3ddqa199gjm90eau1hcn9mg66rj49@4ax.com>,
> mail@bobaxter.coo.uk says...
>> Some networks are saying that PAYG handsets are technically inferior
>> to contract handsets and refuse to put them on to a contract. Is this
>> correct or is it a load of bumph put about for commercial reasons?
>
> It's not correct. A handset is a handset. It's the SIM card that
> determines what services on the network a handset can or cannot access.
> Networks do not say that, ill-informed sales advisors do.
>
>> Would an unlocked PAYG Nokia 6300 be every bit as good as a genuine
>> SIM-free Nokia 6300?
>
> SInce there is no difference you can work out the answer for yourself.
.... apart from the firmware, which often means the unlocked phone has an
older version which has (more) bugs. In the case of my T-mobile 6070, it
also has a T-mobile animated sequence at startup and shutdown and a
T-zones entry in the menu (which doesn't work on Tesco/O2 network) :-(

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