Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone and
someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is standing
beside me?
The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my bystander
(such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my bystander could
point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN MEET UP").
Lem <m...@mail.com> wrote:
> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone and
> someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is standing
> beside me?
>
> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my bystander
> (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my bystander could
> point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN MEET UP").
I have such a list but I think you'll have to make up your own list
because how do I know that what you and your bystander what to point
out to one another is the same as me and my bystander?
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:27:52 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone and
>someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is standing
>beside me?
>
>The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my bystander
>(such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my bystander could
>point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN MEET UP").
"Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98D3D02CFFABFD5E712@127.0.0.1
> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone
> and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is
> standing beside me?
>
> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN
> MEET UP").
Well since most phones don't have cameras in them you could put your hand
over the microphone, the person on the other end won't know
Lem (mail@mail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone and
> someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is standing
> beside me?
>
> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my bystander
> (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my bystander could
> point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN MEET UP").
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:27:52 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>
>>Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>>phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>>call is standing beside me?
>>
>>The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>>CAN MEET UP").
>
> You need a list with one item:
>
> "Fuck off and stop being nosey!"
Sounds like you don't much like working as a team with someone else.
On 11 Feb 2007, ThePunisher <thepunisher@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98D3D02CFFABFD5E712@127.0.0.1
>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>> phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>> call is standing beside me?
>>
>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>> CAN MEET UP").
>
> Well since most phones don't have cameras in them you could put
> your hand over the microphone, the person on the other end won't
> know
>
Hi Punisher.
The electret mic in most phones means that a degree of microphony can
be picked up and that's why the "Secrecy" or "Privacy" mute button is
provided nowadays.
However using the mic mute button (or muffling with a hand, as you
suggest) will change the acoustics of your ambient sounds and the
other party is very likely to notice.
On 11 Feb 2007, Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lem (mail@mail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying :
>
>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>> phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>> call is standing beside me?
>>
>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>> CAN MEET UP").
>
> Here's a pen.
> Here's a piece of paper.
>
> Get on with it.
>
Lem (mail@mail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>>> phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>>> call is standing beside me?
>>>
>>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>>> CAN MEET UP").
>> Here's a pen.
>> Here's a piece of paper.
>>
>> Get on with it.
On 11 Feb 2007, Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lem (mail@mail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying :
>
>>>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>>>> phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of
>>>> the call is standing beside me?
>>>>
>>>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF
>>>> WE CAN MEET UP").
>
>>> Here's a pen.
>>> Here's a piece of paper.
>>>
>>> Get on with it.
>
>> Tried that. But have you seen my handwriting?
>
> <rolls eyes>
> Word processor, printer.
>
"ThePunisher" <thepunisher@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98D3D02CFFABFD5E712@127.0.0.1
>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone
>> and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is
>> standing beside me?
>>
>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN
>> MEET UP").
>
> Well since most phones don't have cameras in them you could put your hand
> over the microphone, the person on the other end won't know
>
> --
> ThePunisher
I just thought of something that hadn't occurred to me
before. I have never seen a "privacy" button on a mobile phone, yet even
the cheapest POTS phone has one. Why?
--
Graham (me@privacy.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :
> I just thought of something that hadn't occurred to me
> before. I have never seen a "privacy" button on a mobile phone, yet
> even the cheapest POTS phone has one. Why?
Press the green button during the call - it'll put the call on hold.
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98D4924EEF984adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153. 244.170...
> Graham (me@privacy.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying :
>
>> I just thought of something that hadn't occurred to me
>> before. I have never seen a "privacy" button on a mobile phone, yet
>> even the cheapest POTS phone has one. Why?
>
> Press the green button during the call - it'll put the call on hold.
Then you can't hear the other party. I want a button just to mute my mic.
This will also be useful for contributors to conference calls which are
becoming more and more common.
Graham wrote:
> "ThePunisher" <thepunisher@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:ERvzh.11822$z54.6851@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>> "Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98D3D02CFFABFD5E712@127.0.0.1
>>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone
>>> and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is
>>> standing beside me?
>>>
>>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN
>>> MEET UP").
>> Well since most phones don't have cameras in them you could put your hand
>> over the microphone, the person on the other end won't know
>>
>> --
>> ThePunisher
>
> I just thought of something that hadn't occurred to me
> before. I have never seen a "privacy" button on a mobile phone, yet even
> the cheapest POTS phone has one. Why?
They just don't have a specific button - Press and hold the clear ('C')
key for a couple seconds on SE phones to mute the mic (same again to
unmute). Have worked like this for years (incl. when they were
Ericsson). I'm pretty sure it'll be the same on other phones.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:49:58 UTC, "Graham" <me@privacy.com> wrote:
>
> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98D4924EEF984adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153. 244.170...
> > Graham (me@privacy.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > saying :
> >
> >> I just thought of something that hadn't occurred to me
> >> before. I have never seen a "privacy" button on a mobile phone, yet
> >> even the cheapest POTS phone has one. Why?
> >
> > Press the green button during the call - it'll put the call on hold.
> Then you can't hear the other party. I want a button just to mute my mic.
> This will also be useful for contributors to conference calls which are
> becoming more and more common.
On my Nokias, there's always been an option on the in-call menu. On my
current handset (6233) that's via the right hand soft key.
--
Bob Eager
begin 123 a new life...take up Extreme Ironing!
On 11 Feb 2007, Graham <me@privacy.com> wrote:
>
> "ThePunisher" <thepunisher@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:ERvzh.11822$z54.6851@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>> "Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98D3D02CFFABFD5E712@127.0.0.1
>>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>>> phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>>> call is standing beside me?
>>>
>>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>>> CAN MEET UP").
>>
>> Well since most phones don't have cameras in them you could put
>> your hand over the microphone, the person on the other end won't
>> know
>>
>
> I just thought of something that hadn't occurred to me
> before. I have never seen a "privacy" button on a mobile phone, yet
> even the cheapest POTS phone has one. Why?
The Nokias I have owned have all had a Mute option. It gets offered
during a call.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:15:49 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>On 10 Feb 2007, IanAl <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:27:52 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>>>phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>>>call is standing beside me?
>>>
>>>The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>>bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>>bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>>>CAN MEET UP").
>>
>> You need a list with one item:
>>
>> "Fuck off and stop being nosey!"
>Sounds like you don't much like working as a team with someone else.
No, it means you need a loudspeaking phone to do this properly.
"Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98D4887E9F580D5E712@127.0.0.1
> On 11 Feb 2007, ThePunisher <thepunisher@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > "Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns98D3D02CFFABFD5E712@127.0.0.1
> > > Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
> > > phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
> > > call is standing beside me?
> > >
> > > The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
> > > bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
> > > bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
> > > CAN MEET UP").
> >
> > Well since most phones don't have cameras in them you could put
> > your hand over the microphone, the person on the other end won't
> > know
> >
>
>
> Hi Punisher.
>
> The electret mic in most phones means that a degree of microphony can
> be picked up and that's why the "Secrecy" or "Privacy" mute button is
> provided nowadays.
>
> However using the mic mute button (or muffling with a hand, as you
> suggest) will change the acoustics of your ambient sounds and the
> other party is very likely to notice.
>
> Lem
If the other person is talking at the time they won't.
>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:27:52 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>>>>phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>>>>call is standing beside me?
>>>>
>>>>The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>>>bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>>>bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>>>>CAN MEET UP").
>>On 10 Feb 2007, IanAl <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You need a list with one item:
>>> "Fuck off and stop being nosey!"
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:15:49 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds like you don't much like working as a team with someone
> else.
On 11 Feb 2007, IanAl <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> No, it means you need a loudspeaking phone to do this properly.
>
I need a loudspeaking phone in order to make a call and also
communicate with someone beside me in a way that is not heard by the
other party on the phone?
>> > "Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
>> > >
>> > > Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>> > > phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of
>> > > the call is standing beside me?
>> > >
>> > > The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>> > > bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>> > > bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF
>> > > WE CAN MEET UP").
>> On 11 Feb 2007, ThePunisher <thepunisher@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Well since most phones don't have cameras in them you could put
>> > your hand over the microphone, the person on the other end won't
>> > know
>> >
> "Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Punisher.
>> The electret mic in most phones means that a degree of microphony
>> can be picked up and that's why the "Secrecy" or "Privacy" mute
>> button is provided nowadays.
>>
>> However using the mic mute button (or muffling with a hand, as you
>> suggest) will change the acoustics of your ambient sounds and the
>> other party is very likely to notice.
On 11 Feb 2007, ThePunisher <thepunisher@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> If the other person is talking at the time they won't.
>
True but essentially an impractical solution to my original question
which was broader than communicating only when the other party was
talking.
> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my bystander
> (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my bystander could
> point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN MEET UP").
Well, assuming that you don't carry a whiteboard, easel and marker pen
around with you, you could try using pen and paper.
If you need a hi-tech solution, try using one of those nasa space pens
and writing on the nearest piece of hi-tech hardware instead of a plain
sheet of paper.
On 10 Feb, 20:27, Lem <m...@mail.com> wrote:
> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone and
> someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is standing
> beside me?
>
> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my bystander
> (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my bystander could
> point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN MEET UP").
I have an infinitely variable one of them. It is called a pen, and
can create such asides on any of a thousand items made of paper.
mail@mail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I need a loudspeaking phone in order to make a call and also
> communicate with someone beside me in a way that is not heard by the
> other party on the phone?
>
> How does a loudspeaking phone help to do this?
Tell the 3rd party to remain silent during the call, and communicate
with thumbs up/thumbs down/facial gesture etc.
--
Regards
Jon
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:02:14 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:27:52 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>>>>>phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>>>>>call is standing beside me?
>>>>>
>>>>>The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>>>>bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>>>>bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>>>>>CAN MEET UP").
>
>>>On 10 Feb 2007, IanAl <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need a list with one item:
>>>> "Fuck off and stop being nosey!"
>
>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:15:49 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you don't much like working as a team with someone
>> else.
>
>On 11 Feb 2007, IanAl <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> No, it means you need a loudspeaking phone to do this properly.
>>
>
>I need a loudspeaking phone in order to make a call and also
>communicate with someone beside me in a way that is not heard by the
>other party on the phone?
>
>How does a loudspeaking phone help to do this?
"Graham" <me@privacy.com> wrote in message
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>
> "ThePunisher" <thepunisher@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:ERvzh.11822$z54.6851@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>> "Lem" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98D3D02CFFABFD5E712@127.0.0.1
>>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the phone
>>> and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the call is
>>> standing beside me?
>>>
>>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE CAN
>>> MEET UP").
>>
>> Well since most phones don't have cameras in them you could put your hand
>> over the microphone, the person on the other end won't know
>>
>> --
>> ThePunisher
>
> I just thought of something that hadn't occurred to me
> before. I have never seen a "privacy" button on a mobile phone, yet even
> the cheapest POTS phone has one. Why?
I'm pretty sure I've been able to mute the mic on all of me SE phones since
the ph768. IIRC you hold down the C button.
>>
>> I just thought of something that hadn't occurred to me
>> before. I have never seen a "privacy" button on a mobile phone, yet even
>> the cheapest POTS phone has one. Why?
>
> I'm pretty sure I've been able to mute the mic on all of me SE phones
> since the ph768. IIRC you hold down the C button.
>
> Shak
Yes I have two SE phones and they both work like that.
In future I will RTFM before posting slanderous remarks!
On 12 Feb 2007, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
> mail@mail.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> I need a loudspeaking phone in order to make a call and also
>> communicate with someone beside me in a way that is not heard by the
>> other party on the phone?
>>
>> How does a loudspeaking phone help to do this?
>
> Tell the 3rd party to remain silent during the call, and communicate
> with thumbs up/thumbs down/facial gesture etc.
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:02:14 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:27:52 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>>>>>>phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of
>>>>>>the call is standing beside me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>>>>>>bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>>>>>>bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF
>>>>>>WE CAN MEET UP").
>>
>>>>On 10 Feb 2007, IanAl <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You need a list with one item:
>>>>> "Fuck off and stop being nosey!"
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:15:49 GMT, Lem <mail@mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds like you don't much like working as a team with someone
>>> else.
>>
>>On 11 Feb 2007, IanAl <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> No, it means you need a loudspeaking phone to do this properly.
>>>
>>
>>I need a loudspeaking phone in order to make a call and also
>>communicate with someone beside me in a way that is not heard by
>>the other party on the phone?
>>
>>How does a loudspeaking phone help to do this?
>
> Mute the microphone on the phone.
> On 10 Feb, 20:27, Lem <m...@mail.com> wrote:
>> Is there a list of messages which can be used when I am on the
>> phone and someone else who has an interest in the contents of the
>> call is standing beside me?
>>
>> The idea is that I could point out a phrase on the list to my
>> bystander (such as: "I THINK HE IS PLEASED") or alternately my
>> bystander could point out a phrase to me (such as: "ASK HIM IF WE
>> CAN MEET UP").
>
> I have an infinitely variable one of them. It is called a pen, and
> can create such asides on any of a thousand items made of paper.
>
Point to message on list during phone call 
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