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Old 11-21-2007, 03:23 PM
Jon
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Default Re: Analogue dial-up via GSM

postmaster@127.0.0.1 declared for all the world to hear...
>
> A few years ago, I used to use a SE T610 to dial an analogue modem (not the
> internet, a bbs style dial-up modem) via bluetooth.
>
> I swear all I used to do was issue ATDT0xxxxxxx to dial the number (using
> zterm on Mac OS X via bluetooth) and it would give me the login prompt and
> away I went.
>
> I've been trying for ages to get this to work on my current phone - a K800i.
> It doesn't work. I just get 'NO CARRIER' after the dial. It doesn't even wait
> long enough for the remote end to answer. It's terminating the call almost
> before it's begun.


Dial-up data is practically unheard of these days. It's likely that your
SIM card is not enabled for this service. Call your network operator and
ask for Mobile originate circuit-switched data to be enabled.

> Calling the modem number from the handset gets the required chirps and beeps
> from the remote modem.


Voice and data calls are handled differently by a mobile network.

> Can you still use GSM to call analogue modems these days? Using GPRS data is
> no good for what I need to do right now.


What are you trying to do?

> The SIM is Orange PAYG. I think I would have been on Orange pay monthly at
> the time it last worked though.


It's entirely possible that it's not enabled on your SIM card. No phones
currently sold require dial-up data as they all use GPRS.
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Analogue dial-up via GSM

postmaster@127.0.0.1 declared for all the world to hear...
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:23:39 +0000, Jon wrote
> (in article <MPG.21ae5ddaa58f57f298ad7c@text.usenet.plus.net>) :
>
> >
> > What are you trying to do?
> >

>
> Call an analogue modem attached to a small PC 'out there' doing remote data
> logging.


Shame you can't make the PC "phone home" on demand or to a pre-arranged
time schedule. Would solve the problem.

Can you not initiate the call to the remote machine using a landline and
dial-up modem in a computer?
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:17 AM
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Default Re: Analogue dial-up via GSM

postmaster@127.0.0.1 declared for all the world to hear...
> I will 'phone Orange in the morning. I bet they won't have a clue what I'm
> asking for. It won't be in their scripts.


Likely. In that event you might want to try 156, although you will have
to dial is it 07973 100156 if you are on PAYG, as I think 156 will only
work from a contract phone.

156 is fax/data support.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:19 AM
Chris Blunt
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Default Re: Analogue dial-up via GSM

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:23:39 -0000, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
wrote:

>postmaster@127.0.0.1 declared for all the world to hear...
>>
>> A few years ago, I used to use a SE T610 to dial an analogue modem (not the
>> internet, a bbs style dial-up modem) via bluetooth.
>>
>> I swear all I used to do was issue ATDT0xxxxxxx to dial the number (using
>> zterm on Mac OS X via bluetooth) and it would give me the login prompt and
>> away I went.
>>
>> I've been trying for ages to get this to work on my current phone - a K800i.
>> It doesn't work. I just get 'NO CARRIER' after the dial. It doesn't even wait
>> long enough for the remote end to answer. It's terminating the call almost
>> before it's begun.

>
>Dial-up data is practically unheard of these days. It's likely that your
>SIM card is not enabled for this service. Call your network operator and
>ask for Mobile originate circuit-switched data to be enabled.
>
>> Calling the modem number from the handset gets the required chirps and beeps
>> from the remote modem.

>
>Voice and data calls are handled differently by a mobile network.
>
>> Can you still use GSM to call analogue modems these days? Using GPRS data is
>> no good for what I need to do right now.

>
>What are you trying to do?
>
>> The SIM is Orange PAYG. I think I would have been on Orange pay monthly at
>> the time it last worked though.

>
>It's entirely possible that it's not enabled on your SIM card. No phones
>currently sold require dial-up data as they all use GPRS.


Didn't dial-up mobile data also require some facilities within the
network to be available to support it? I may be wrong here, but I
always assumed the network operator had a rack of dial-up modems to
provide the interface to the PSTN for outgoing dial-up calls. If so,
it possible that hardware has been stripped out since the advent of
GPRS.

Chris

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