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Old 02-12-2007, 10:53 PM
Mark Jones Laptop2
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"Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
>
> A conversation occurred today in the bar after a friend returned from
> Waitrose in Weybridge.
>
> Apparently (and some say it's becoming common!?) when you enter a
> Supermarket the signal strength of your mobile drops off - or is blocked -
> perhaps to avoid you making/receiving mobile telephone calls in a
> Supermarket!
>
> Before I list a few comments, may I first say that I am/was a techy in the
> RF and Satellite frequency fields and that is why this bloke addressed me
> first:-
>


Thanks for all the replies to this post of mine:- most of all to those of
you who attempted to educate me as to the effects of the Faraday Cage and
the effects of Metal Cladding - DESPITE me pointing out that I am/was a
Techy in RF etc and that I use my mobile often in a Tesco Faraday Cage.

In the end I feel that the guy that asked me the question or - in other
words who was accusing Waitrose of such covert counter-surveillance was
indee a drunk who only ever has used his phone near the Beer shelves and not
deep in the Veggie or food depts. Sorry for wasting your time folks :-)

Mark

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Old 02-13-2007, 05:43 AM
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"Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> DESPITE me pointing out that I am/was a Techy in RF etc and that I use my
> mobile often in a Tesco Faraday Cage.


Calm down dear, it's only a newsgroup. Take a couple of aspirins, I'm sure
your ego will feel much better in the morning ;o)
--
Dave (Sgt. Pepper) Epsom, England
Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
My photo galleries at http://www.pbase.com/davecq
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Old 02-13-2007, 02:46 PM
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"Dave (Sgt. Pepper)" <EpsomMafia@Sicilia.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:tNudnc4FM71gck3YnZ2dnUVZ8v6dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> DESPITE me pointing out that I am/was a Techy in RF etc and that I use
>> my mobile often in a Tesco Faraday Cage.

>
> Calm down dear, it's only a newsgroup. Take a couple of aspirins, I'm
> sure your ego will feel much better in the morning ;o)
> --
> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) Epsom, England


It will probably be worse on T-Mobile, Orange and 3 than O2 and Voda.

Tesco's probably leaks more or they might even have a micro cell inside!
After all Tesco has a virtual network and Waitrose don't. A Google is a bit
messy, but you will get the drift.



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Old 02-13-2007, 05:12 PM
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:53:50 -0000, "Mark Jones Laptop2"
<maj66@btinternet.com> wrote:

>the effects of Metal Cladding - DESPITE me pointing out that I am/was a
>Techy in RF etc and that I use my mobile often in a Tesco Faraday Cage.


Hey man, take a pill.


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Old 02-13-2007, 05:27 PM
David Taylor
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On 2007-02-12, Mark Jones Laptop2 <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> "Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:kbCdnQEMaqQoE1LYnZ2dnUVZ8qugnZ2d@bt.com...
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> A conversation occurred today in the bar after a friend returned from
>> Waitrose in Weybridge.
>>
>> Apparently (and some say it's becoming common!?) when you enter a
>> Supermarket the signal strength of your mobile drops off - or is blocked -
>> perhaps to avoid you making/receiving mobile telephone calls in a
>> Supermarket!
>>
>> Before I list a few comments, may I first say that I am/was a techy in the
>> RF and Satellite frequency fields and that is why this bloke addressed me
>> first:-
>>

>
> Thanks for all the replies to this post of mine:- most of all to those of
> you who attempted to educate me as to the effects of the Faraday Cage and
> the effects of Metal Cladding - DESPITE me pointing out that I am/was a
> Techy in RF etc and that I use my mobile often in a Tesco Faraday Cage.


Well, you ignored the most obvious reason for the phone not getting
signal. What response did you expect?

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Old 02-13-2007, 11:55 PM
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"David Taylor" <davidt-news@yadt.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2007-02-12,>> Thanks for all the replies to this post of mine:- most of
> all to those of
>> you who attempted to educate me as to the effects of the Faraday Cage and
>> the effects of Metal Cladding - DESPITE me pointing out that I am/was a
>> Techy in RF etc and that I use my mobile often in a Tesco Faraday Cage.

>
> Well, you ignored the most obvious reason for the phone not getting
> signal. What response did you expect?
>
> --
> David Taylor


Mr. Taylor, I cannot yield to your superior knowledge. What did you expect?

I knew the most obvious reason, can you not read?

As it turns out the bloke that asked me the question may not have been
"all-there" as I've agreed since. I asked the various points in this ng to
get different points or professional views - which I achieved - apart from
"metal cladding and faraday cage theories" which I had already taken into
consideration - hence my paragraph about my RF qualifications. It was an
urban/retail/commercial/political question not a technical question (Richard
Head)

So Dave, to quote your "What response did you expect?" is as daft as me
asking is JF an Author or is Sgt Pepper a keen/good photographer or a
Beatles Album? Read the lines - not just between them buddy.

If I want RF answers I wont ask for them in a local ng, I was searching for
local comments.

Anyone in here bought and/or won Lottery Tickets/Jackpots or tenners? - I
rolled out the two way Sat-Com Systems that sit on top of every Woolworths,
Post Office and Petrol Station in the SE when I was running my firm in the
90's. The NatWest Tower and 90% of the City Buildings have my footprints and
VSAT Dishes upon them and and my cables throughout them, I do not need
trainspotters advising me on subjects that did not require a technical
answer - sorry (I'll sober up in the morning and regret this) .

Faraday Cages are for Pitbulls and ASBO's dickheads. Stick to your trainsets
and sheds or read the posts fully before you try to berate a " common
poster" :-)

Sgt - I know - I know xx

Mark




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Old 02-14-2007, 05:58 AM
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Mark Jones Laptop2 wrote:
> If I want RF answers I wont ask for them in a local ng, I was searching for
> local comments.
>
> Anyone in here bought and/or won Lottery Tickets/Jackpots or tenners? - I
> rolled out the two way Sat-Com Systems that sit on top of every Woolworths,
> Post Office and Petrol Station in the SE when I was running my firm in the
> 90's. The NatWest Tower and 90% of the City Buildings have my footprints and
> VSAT Dishes upon them and and my cables throughout them, I do not need
> trainspotters advising me on subjects that did not require a technical
> answer - sorry (I'll sober up in the morning and regret this) .
>
> Faraday Cages are for Pitbulls and ASBO's dickheads. Stick to your trainsets
> and sheds or read the posts fully before you try to berate a " common
> poster" :-)


What a modest but rather confused chap.

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Old 02-14-2007, 10:12 AM
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"Bruce Fletcher" <ricardianteeth@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Mark Jones Laptop2 wrote:
>> If I want RF answers I wont ask for them in a local ng, I was searching
>> for local comments.
>>
>> Anyone in here bought and/or won Lottery Tickets/Jackpots or tenners? - I
>> rolled out the two way Sat-Com Systems that sit on top of every
>> Woolworths, Post Office and Petrol Station in the SE when I was running
>> my firm in the 90's. The NatWest Tower and 90% of the City Buildings have
>> my footprints and VSAT Dishes upon them and and my cables throughout
>> them, I do not need trainspotters advising me on subjects that did not
>> require a technical answer - sorry (I'll sober up in the morning and
>> regret this) .
>>
>> Faraday Cages are for Pitbulls and ASBO's dickheads. Stick to your
>> trainsets and sheds or read the posts fully before you try to berate a "
>> common poster" :-)

>
> What a modest but rather confused chap.


I was pissed actually



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Old 02-14-2007, 11:25 AM
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Mark Jones Laptop2 wrote:
> "Bruce Fletcher" <ricardianteeth@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:jKadnf75W8MhOU_YRVnyvgA@bt.com...
>> Mark Jones Laptop2 wrote:
>>> If I want RF answers I wont ask for them in a local ng, I was searching
>>> for local comments.
>>>
>>> Anyone in here bought and/or won Lottery Tickets/Jackpots or tenners? - I
>>> rolled out the two way Sat-Com Systems that sit on top of every
>>> Woolworths, Post Office and Petrol Station in the SE when I was running
>>> my firm in the 90's. The NatWest Tower and 90% of the City Buildings have
>>> my footprints and VSAT Dishes upon them and and my cables throughout
>>> them, I do not need trainspotters advising me on subjects that did not
>>> require a technical answer - sorry (I'll sober up in the morning and
>>> regret this) .
>>>
>>> Faraday Cages are for Pitbulls and ASBO's dickheads. Stick to your
>>> trainsets and sheds or read the posts fully before you try to berate a "
>>> common poster" :-)

>> What a modest but rather confused chap.

>
> I was pissed actually
>
>

We've all done it. Or at least I have. ;-)

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Old 02-14-2007, 12:06 PM
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"Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I was pissed actually


In mood as well as body.. :-p


Hope the head is clearer today.




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Old 02-14-2007, 12:22 PM
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"Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> I was pissed actually


I knew you had to be when you described me as a 'good photographer' LOL.
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Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
My photo galleries at http://www.pbase.com/davecq
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:32 PM
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"Dave (Sgt. Pepper)" <EpsomMafia@Sicilia.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:kJednVvzs8HnfU_YnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> I was pissed actually

>
> I knew you had to be when you described me as a 'good photographer' LOL.
> --
> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) Epsom, England
> Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
> My photo galleries at http://www.pbase.com/davecq
> "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"
>
>


Sorry chaps, I once had a policy of not posting pissed or not after 9pm -
which are the same.

Please forgive and laugh

Mark



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Old 02-14-2007, 09:23 PM
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"Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Sorry chaps, I once had a policy of not posting pissed or not after 9pm -
> which are the same.
>
> Please forgive and laugh
>
> Mark


I once tried that too...

Seems I'm failing yet again. The merlot grape is my undoing.

:-p




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Old 02-14-2007, 10:06 PM
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"Steve" <CunningLinguist@ace-liquors.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:jYKdnQVN_ph-7E7YnZ2dnUVZ8tmhnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> Sorry chaps, I once had a policy of not posting pissed or not after 9pm -
>> which are the same.
>>
>> Please forgive and laugh
>>
>> Mark

>
> I once tried that too...
>
> Seems I'm failing yet again. The merlot grape is my undoing.
>
> :-p
>


Semmilion Chardonay is my weakness - oops, I'm posting after 9pm with a can
of Stella Artois to my right, BFN

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Old 02-14-2007, 11:53 PM
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Mark Jones Laptop2 wrote:
> Semmilion Chardonay is my weakness - oops, I'm posting after 9pm with a can
> of Stella Artois to my right, BFN


Home-brew is by far the best solution to the curse of the drinking
classes. Twentyseven pence per pint is my sort of price - and it tastes
good too.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:07 AM
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"Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve" <CunningLinguist@ace-liquors.com> wrote in message
> news:G5LAh.14225$OK6.3108@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:jYKdnQVN_ph-7E7YnZ2dnUVZ8tmhnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry chaps, I once had a policy of not posting pissed or not after
>>> 9pm - which are the same.
>>>
>>> Please forgive and laugh
>>>
>>> Mark

>>
>> I once tried that too...
>>
>> Seems I'm failing yet again. The merlot grape is my undoing.
>>
>> :-p
>>

>
> Semmilion Chardonay is my weakness - oops, I'm posting after 9pm with a
> can of Stella Artois to my right, BFN
>
> Mrka
>

We've identified a complaint known as E Coli Glenfiddich, which causes a
combination of stomach and memory problems- first noted on the morning after
the original Live Aid when certain parties (not myself, I should add) had no
recollection as to whether they'd phoned in a donation or not.
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:37 PM
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In message <AJGdnQFqv4OGUkzYRVnygQA@bt.com>, R. Mark Clayton
<nospamclayton@btinternet.com> writes
>It will probably be worse on T-Mobile, Orange and 3 than O2 and Voda.
>
>Tesco's probably leaks more or they might even have a micro cell inside!
>After all Tesco has a virtual network and Waitrose don't. A Google is a bit
>messy, but you will get the drift.

I've got Voda on contract and 02 on PAYG. The Voda looses signal in
every Tesco I've been in whereas the 02 phone works without fault.
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:59 PM
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In article <eIaKHhYMGc1FFwFi@yewbank.demon.co.uk>, Clive Coleman.
<clive@yewbank.demon.co.uk> writes
>In message <AJGdnQFqv4OGUkzYRVnygQA@bt.com>, R. Mark Clayton
><nospamclayton@btinternet.com> writes
>>It will probably be worse on T-Mobile, Orange and 3 than O2 and Voda.
>>
>>Tesco's probably leaks more or they might even have a micro cell inside!
>>After all Tesco has a virtual network and Waitrose don't. A Google is a bit
>>messy, but you will get the drift.

>I've got Voda on contract and 02 on PAYG. The Voda looses signal in
>every Tesco I've been in whereas the 02 phone works without fault.


Probably just a coincidence. Look up "sitefinder" that'll tell U where
most all the base stations for the networks are located.

If Tesco was deliberately interfering then Ofcom wouldn't be much
pleased!....
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:36 PM
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>>> It will probably be worse on T-Mobile, Orange and 3 than O2 and
>>> Voda.
>>>
>>> Tesco's probably leaks more or they might even have a micro cell
>>> inside! After all Tesco has a virtual network and Waitrose don't.
>>> A Google is a bit messy, but you will get the drift.

>> I've got Voda on contract and 02 on PAYG. The Voda looses signal in
>> every Tesco I've been in whereas the 02 phone works without fault.

>
> Probably just a coincidence. Look up "sitefinder" that'll tell U where
> most all the base stations for the networks are located.
>
> If Tesco was deliberately interfering then Ofcom wouldn't be much
> pleased!....


Tesco Mobile runs on the O2 network. Perhaps they do have micro cells or
base stations on the store?



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Old 02-18-2007, 04:35 PM
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"rob" <occasionallychecked@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

> Tesco Mobile runs on the O2 network. Perhaps they do have
> micro cells or base stations on the store?


Not in our local Tesco they don't..! I lose signal right by the counter
where they sell phones..!

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Old 02-18-2007, 05:44 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Not in our local Tesco they don't..! I lose signal right by the counter
> where they sell phones..!
>
> Ivor
>
>


That's just to make you think you need a new one...

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Old 02-18-2007, 08:04 PM
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I'm sorry I started this thread a week ago - I was more sorry when I
responded pissed a few days later..now I'm sorry that most of the recent
posters haven't bothered to read the earlier posts and are repeating the
same old stuff.

and............ now I'm sorry that I'm posting a bit drunk again.

Most of all...I'm sorry that either no other interestiung posts have
occurred - or that my ISP hasn't allowed me to see the new posts.

Hic, hic

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"Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I'm sorry I started this thread a week ago - I was more sorry when I
> responded pissed a few days later..now I'm sorry that most of the recent
> posters haven't bothered to read the earlier posts and are repeating the
> same old stuff.
>
> and............ now I'm sorry that I'm posting a bit drunk again.
>
> Most of all...I'm sorry that either no other interestiung posts have
> occurred - or that my ISP hasn't allowed me to see the new posts.
>
> Hic, hic
>
> Jonesy


Sorry is only a state of mind.... :-p



btw it's after 9, my glass is full, it's just the bottle that's half empty!

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"Steve" <CunningLinguist@ace-liquors.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark Jones Laptop2" <maj66@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:Uv-dnZv6J8HKLEXYRVnyiAA@bt.com...
>> I'm sorry I started this thread a week ago - I was more sorry when I
>> responded pissed a few days later..now I'm sorry that most of the recent
>> posters haven't bothered to read the earlier posts and are repeating the
>> same old stuff.
>>
>> and............ now I'm sorry that I'm posting a bit drunk again.
>>
>> Most of all...I'm sorry that either no other interestiung posts have
>> occurred - or that my ISP hasn't allowed me to see the new posts.
>>
>> Hic, hic
>>
>> Jonesy

>
> Sorry is only a state of mind.... :-p
>
>
>
> btw it's after 9, my glass is full, it's just the bottle that's half
> empty!
>
> ;-)



I've just sulked myself into the Conservatory with a full bottle in front of
me which is beter than ............... go one fill in the gaps




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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:59:03 +0000, tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk>
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>Probably just a coincidence. Look up "sitefinder" that'll tell U where
>most all the base stations for the networks are located.


Do you have the link for Sitefinder please?

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In article <0l9nt2tmk4fcrhgt847nslrjh7udva5svm@4ax.com>, Alasdair
<mail@bobaxter.coo.uk> writes
>On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:59:03 +0000, tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Probably just a coincidence. Look up "sitefinder" that'll tell U where
>>most all the base stations for the networks are located.

>
>Do you have the link for Sitefinder please?
>


Http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/

Click on the UK map, enter postcode town etc, and away you go. Its not
that user friendly you have to get the scaling correct for them to
show....
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