Re: Vodafone PAYG data rates when ROAMING

Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

> Looking at their website, and it is really hard to find this info,
> they seem to have reduced their rates from ~ £10/MB to £4.99/MB.
>
> Is this right?

I think they had to- EU directive. Tesco dropped theirs from £8 to £4. I
got a text about it (or rather a text to ring a free number with info)
the other day.

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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:43:59 +0100, Peter
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

>Their website says something different when the phone is used as a
>modem but this is silly because there is no way Voda can tell if one
>is browsing using the phone, or browsing with a laptop which uses the
>phone as a modem.

I think perhaps they can.

I have a SmarTone-Vodafone data-only SIM which I use in Hong Kong with
a USB 3G modem connected to my laptop. It works fine in that
configuration, but if I put the SIM in my Nokia N95 and try to use it
with the web-browser there it doesn't connect. Both the 3G modem and
the N95 are unlocked, so there has to be some other way the network is
restricting its use.

Chris

On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:03:24 +0100, Peter
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

>
>Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> wrote
>
>>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:43:59 +0100, Peter
>><occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Their website says something different when the phone is used as a
>>>modem but this is silly because there is no way Voda can tell if one
>>>is browsing using the phone, or browsing with a laptop which uses the
>>>phone as a modem.
>>
>>I think perhaps they can.
>>
>>I have a SmarTone-Vodafone data-only SIM which I use in Hong Kong with
>>a USB 3G modem connected to my laptop. It works fine in that
>>configuration, but if I put the SIM in my Nokia N95 and try to use it
>>with the web-browser there it doesn't connect. Both the 3G modem and
>>the N95 are unlocked, so there has to be some other way the network is
>>restricting its use.
>>
>>Chris
>
>Well, there could be a lot of things. You have to configure the APN,
>the login and the password.

I've configured all that. I have another ordinary SmarTone-Vodafone
SIM that works fine in the phone. Its just the data-only SIM that
works only in the 3G modem and not in the phone. They must have some
sneaky way of determining whether you're using a phone or a modem to
make the data connection.

Chris

On 5 Jul, 12:43, Peter <occassionally-confu...@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote
>
> >> Looking at their website, and it is really hard to find this info,
> >> they seem to have reduced their rates from ~ £10/MB to £4.99/MB.
>
> >> Is this right?
>
> >I think they had to- EU directive. Tesco dropped theirs from £8 to £4. I
> >got a text about it (or rather a text to ring a free number with info)
> >the other day.
>
> The Voda website says £5/MB and 15MB/day max. I phoned them just now -
> as usual the staff don't have a clue but they asked somebody higher up
> and apparently you pay £5 for the first 1MB and then - within the same
> day - you get 14MB free.
>
> This is on ROAMING.
>
> Their website says something different when the phone is used as a
> modem but this is silly because there is no way Voda can tell if one
> is browsing using the phone, or browsing with a laptop which uses the
> phone as a modem. However their staff cannot explain why there is a
> difference...
>
> I don't think the 15MB/day is correct however because I blew away £100
> on a recent holiday in Greece (mid June) and this was by downloading
> only about 12MB in total, over 5 days.
>
> There is some crookery going on.

The price depends on the APN your phone's configured to connect to the
internet with:

If you use the 'WAP' APN then data is charged at £5 for upto 15MB
within a day. You pay for data until you've spent the £5 (which would
be at approx. 1M - the next 14MB downloaded are then free.
If you use the 'Internet' APN however its £4.99/MB

On 6 Jul, 19:31, Peter <occassionally-confu...@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> newsacco...@mail2web.com wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 5 Jul, 12:43, Peter <occassionally-confu...@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >> d4g...@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote
>
> >> >> Looking at their website, and it is really hard to find this info,
> >> >> they seem to have reduced their rates from ~ £10/MB to £4.99/MB..
>
> >> >> Is this right?
>
> >> >I think they had to- EU directive. Tesco dropped theirs from £8 to £4. I
> >> >got a text about it (or rather a text to ring a free number with info)
> >> >the other day.
>
> >> The Voda website says £5/MB and 15MB/day max. I phoned them just now-
> >> as usual the staff don't have a clue but they asked somebody higher up
> >> and apparently you pay £5 for the first 1MB and then - within the same
> >> day - you get 14MB free.
>
> >> This is on ROAMING.
>
> >> Their website says something different when the phone is used as a
> >> modem but this is silly because there is no way Voda can tell if one
> >> is browsing using the phone, or browsing with a laptop which uses the
> >> phone as a modem. However their staff cannot explain why there is a
> >> difference...
>
> >> I don't think the 15MB/day is correct however because I blew away £100
> >> on a recent holiday in Greece (mid June) and this was by downloading
> >> only about 12MB in total, over 5 days.
>
> >> There is some crookery going on.
>
> >The price depends on the APN your phone's configured to connect to the
> >internet with:
>
> >If you use the 'WAP' APN then data is charged at £5 for upto 15MB
> >within a day. You pay for data until you've spent the £5 (which would
> >be at approx. 1M - the next 14MB downloaded are then free.
> >If you use the 'Internet' APN however its £4.99/MB
>
> Is the above when roaming?
>
> I have been using
>
> apn: pp.internet
> user: web
> password: web
>
> What are the UK and roaming rates for the two APNs?
>
> Why doesn't Voda support know this?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes the above pricing is for roaming.

I think the APN you'll need for the £5 for 15MB should be:

apn: pp.vodafone.co.uk
username: wap
password: wap

I dont fully know what the difference between the APN's is - you might
find that laptop access isnt possible when using the pp.vodafone.co.uk
one?