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Old 05-04-2007, 05:01 PM
Beck
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Default Roaming charges again

I am aware that if I am abroad, say Spain for example and I receive a call I
have to pay 50p per minute or whatever it is.

If I make a call from Spain to UK does the person receiving the call in the
UK have to pay?

Secondly if both the caller and the receiver are in Spain at the same time,
does the receiver still pay to receive the call?

As above, if both parties are in Spain, would we pay the full roaming
charges of 50p per minute or will it be a reduced local mobile charge?


Thanks


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Old 05-04-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: Roaming charges again

It happens that Beck formulated :
> I am aware that if I am abroad, say Spain for example and I receive a call I
> have to pay 50p per minute or whatever it is.
>
> If I make a call from Spain to UK does the person receiving the call in the
> UK have to pay?


No, unless you're calling a UK 0800 number.

>
> Secondly if both the caller and the receiver are in Spain at the same time,
> does the receiver still pay to receive the call?


Yes - if the receiver is also using a UK mobile.

>
> As above, if both parties are in Spain, would we pay the full roaming charges
> of 50p per minute or will it be a reduced local mobile charge?
>


If both are UK mobiles, the caller would pay the outbound roaming
charge to a UK number, the receiver would pay the inbound roaming
costs, the same as they would pay if /anyone/ called them.

> Thanks




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Old 05-04-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Roaming charges again


"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.243f7d75cac80436.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> It happens that Beck formulated :
>> I am aware that if I am abroad, say Spain for example and I receive a
>> call I have to pay 50p per minute or whatever it is.
>>
>> If I make a call from Spain to UK does the person receiving the call in
>> the UK have to pay?

>
> No, unless you're calling a UK 0800 number.
>
>>
>> Secondly if both the caller and the receiver are in Spain at the same
>> time, does the receiver still pay to receive the call?

>
> Yes - if the receiver is also using a UK mobile.
>
>>
>> As above, if both parties are in Spain, would we pay the full roaming
>> charges of 50p per minute or will it be a reduced local mobile charge?
>>

>
> If both are UK mobiles, the caller would pay the outbound roaming charge
> to a UK number, the receiver would pay the inbound roaming costs, the same
> as they would pay if /anyone/ called them.


Goddamn them :-)

Thanks for the information Jono. Its good to be prepared.


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Old 05-04-2007, 08:50 PM
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"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
news:463b6e34$0$47146$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.oct anews.com...
>> If both are UK mobiles, the caller would pay the outbound roaming charge
>> to a UK number, the receiver would pay the inbound roaming costs, the
>> same as they would pay if /anyone/ called them.

>
> Goddamn them :-)


The reason you both would pay for the call, is the call is routed from
spain, all the way to england, around the uk network for a bit, then back
out to spain,

even if the person you call is sat next to you, the call still goes halfway
round the world picking up charges as it does so,

I'm going abroad in a few days time, all over europe so a single countries
sim cars aint gonna be much use to me, and i aint bothering with those call
back sims again after last years experiance.

So i'll be sending mms texts home, as they are charged at 20p per message,
and you get 3000 letters to put in it, (i'll be sending them to an e-mail
addresse as the phone i want to send them to dosent accept mms's)

For them to reply to me, they'll use standard texts, unless i can find out
how much to collext a mms abroad.



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Old 05-04-2007, 09:49 PM
Jono
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Default Re: Roaming charges again

It happens that Gazz formulated :
> "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
> news:463b6e34$0$47146$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.oct anews.com...
>>> If both are UK mobiles, the caller would pay the outbound roaming charge
>>> to a UK number, the receiver would pay the inbound roaming costs, the same
>>> as they would pay if /anyone/ called them.

>>
>> Goddamn them :-)

>
> The reason you both would pay for the call, is the call is routed from spain,
> all the way to england, around the uk network for a bit, then back out to
> spain,
>


I think that's probably a load of nonsense. If we believe it, it allows
the networks to get away with it.



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Old 05-05-2007, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: Roaming charges again

nosp@m.ta declared for all the world to hear...
> For them to reply to me, they'll use standard texts, unless i can find out
> how much to collext a mms abroad.


It's free.
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Jon

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Old 05-05-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Roaming charges again

On May 4, 9:49 pm, Jono <notha...@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> It happens that Gazz formulated :


> > The reason you both would pay for the call, is the call is routed from spain,
> > all the way to england, around the uk network for a bit, then back out to
> > spain,

>
> I think that's probably a load of nonsense. If we believe it, it allows
> the networks to get away with it.


It's actually true - espcially if you call from a Non Camel network.




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Old 05-05-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Roaming charges again

After serious thinking The Last Outpost wrote :
> Non Camel network


?



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Old 05-06-2007, 12:22 AM
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On 5 May, 16:56, Jono <notha...@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> After serious thinking The Last Outpost wrote :
>
> > Non Camel network

>
> ?


"CAMEL - Customized Applications for Mobile Network Enhanced
Logic (GSM 09.78) - allows roaming subscribers access to their
full portfolio of IN services. CAMEL GSM phase 2+ connects the
home and visited mobile networks to various Intelligent
Network (IN) platforms used throughout national networks to
provide features such as Pre-Paid Calling, Personal Numbering
and more complex location dependent services."


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Old 05-06-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Roaming charges again

I don't know if it's worth considering but I use my o2 prepaid sim abroad as
the roaming charges are only 30p per minute to make and receive calls. It
beats the 80p+ I'd pay if I use my three mobile.

Dan



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Old 05-07-2007, 12:24 AM
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On May 6, 6:44 pm, "Dan" <dandddniebo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know if it's worth considering but I use my o2 prepaid sim abroadas
> the roaming charges are only 30p per minute to make and receive calls. It
> beats the 80p+ I'd pay if I use my three mobile.
>
> Dan


It's 35p actually, but if you subscribe to My Europe Extra for £10 a
monht, then incoming calls are free, outgoing 25p

Then, despite remarks above about callback, use it to make cheaper
outgoing calls -from 2 pence a minute is possible


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Old 05-07-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: Roaming charges again

On May 4, 8:50 pm, "Gazz" <n...@m.ta> wrote:
> "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
>
> news:463b6e34$0$47146$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.oct anews.com...
>
> >> If both are UK mobiles, the caller would pay the outbound roaming charge
> >> to a UK number, the receiver would pay the inbound roaming costs, the
> >> same as they would pay if /anyone/ called them.

>
> > Goddamn them :-)

>
> The reason you both would pay for the call, is the call is routed from
> spain, all the way to england, around the uk network for a bit, then back
> out to spain,
>
> even if the person you call is sat next to you, the call still goes halfway
> round the world picking up charges as it does so,
>
> I'm going abroad in a few days time, all over europe so a single countries
> sim cars aint gonna be much use to me, and i aint bothering with those call
> back sims again after last years experiance.
>
> So i'll be sending mms texts home, as they are charged at 20p per message,
> and you get 3000 letters to put in it, (i'll be sending them to an e-mail
> addresse as the phone i want to send them to dosent accept mms's)
>
> For them to reply to me, they'll use standard texts, unless i can find out
> how much to collext a mms abroad.


You can send ordinary sms from free to 5 cents, plus about a penny
data cost, using a Java client in the phone that sends via wap/grps,
such as smsbug, vgsmail, mobisms, vyke or voipbuster



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Old 05-07-2007, 04:10 PM
Andy Pandy
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Default Re: Roaming charges again


"The Last Outpost" <the_last_outpost@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:1178373096.198886.113310@u30g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
> On May 4, 9:49 pm, Jono <notha...@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> > It happens that Gazz formulated :

>
> > > The reason you both would pay for the call, is the call is routed from spain,
> > > all the way to england, around the uk network for a bit, then back out to
> > > spain,

> >
> > I think that's probably a load of nonsense. If we believe it, it allows
> > the networks to get away with it.

>
> It's actually true - espcially if you call from a Non Camel network.


It's still no excuse - it's trivially cheap these days to send calls around the
world.

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