sending 100s of texts

hi there,

i have one of those contracts with 2000 txts that i will never use

i will probably have 1800+ text left on the last day of the month

i want to send them all to one friend who borrowed something from me and is
taking ages to return it, so he will "get the message" haha

i can send them quite easily using Nokia PC Suite,

could I get into any trouble? apart from him moaning at me

In article <451eef99$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, boxerjones1414
@hotmail.com says...
> hi there,
>
> i have one of those contracts with 2000 txts that i will never use
>
> i will probably have 1800+ text left on the last day of the month
>
> i want to send them all to one friend who borrowed something from me and is
> taking ages to return it, so he will "get the message" haha
>
> i can send them quite easily using Nokia PC Suite,
>
> could I get into any trouble? apart from him moaning at me
>
>
>
rofl, ya bad lad!

"brnpt" <boxerjones1414@hotmail.com (remove 1414)> wrote in message
news:451eef99$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> hi there,
>
> i have one of those contracts with 2000 txts that i will never use
>
> i will probably have 1800+ text left on the last day of the month
>
> i want to send them all to one friend who borrowed something from me and
> is taking ages to return it, so he will "get the message" haha
>
> i can send them quite easily using Nokia PC Suite,
>
> could I get into any trouble? apart from him moaning at me
>
If he complained to the police you would be. Various telecommunications
acts and offences against the person act to start with. You could be
prosecuted if your friend was very annoyed. Why not just speak to him
instead, use some of your free minutes.

"brnpt" <boxerjones1414@hotmail.com (remove 1414)> wrote in message
news:451eef99$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> hi there,
>
> i have one of those contracts with 2000 txts that i will never use
>
> i will probably have 1800+ text left on the last day of the month
>
> i want to send them all to one friend who borrowed something from me and
> is taking ages to return it, so he will "get the message" haha
>
> i can send them quite easily using Nokia PC Suite,
>
> could I get into any trouble? apart from him moaning at me

Go for it, you could say your phone had a 'bug' and this had happened
before, or some other such nonsense.

No, I dont think you can get into any sort of legal trouble because of
this.

z35006352@hotmail.com wrote:
> No, I dont think you can get into any sort of legal trouble because of
> this.
>
All networks have similar terms and conditions, but Orange say:

5.1 Recognising that good management and security of the Services is
important to all Orange customers you will agree that you will:
5.1.1 not use the Services for any improper, immoral, fraudulent or
unlawful purposes or for the sending of any communication or storing of
any information which is of an offensive, abusive, indecent, obscene or
menacing nature;
5.1.2 not cause, nor knowingly allow others to cause, any nuisance
annoyance or inconvenience whether to us or to any of our customers
which shall include the use of the Network for the persistent sending of
unsolicited communications without reasonable cause;




I think sending 1,800 text messages to a single recipient so he "gets
the message" would constitute being a nuisance, which they then can do:

2.6 We may Suspend the Services in whole or part at any time without
notice if we have good reason to believe you haven't complied with one
or more of these terms and conditions or if any money owed by you to us
whether in relation to Services or not remains unpaid.
2.7 We shall investigate all complaints made whether by or against you
and reserve the right to Suspend the Services if a complaint has been
made against you pending the results of investigation of the complaint.


Plus, apparently, sending just 165 messages per second is enough to jam
cellphones for the whole size of Manhattan...
http://www.smsanalysis.org/

I think you'd be silly to actually do what you're suggesting.

D

"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
news:4o9bhfFdjv92U1@individual.net...
> z35006352@hotmail.com wrote:
>> No, I dont think you can get into any sort of legal trouble because of
>> this.
>>
> All networks have similar terms and conditions, but Orange say:
>
> 5.1 Recognising that good management and security of the Services is
> important to all Orange customers you will agree that you will:
> 5.1.1 not use the Services for any improper, immoral, fraudulent or
> unlawful purposes or for the sending of any communication or storing of
> any information which is of an offensive, abusive, indecent, obscene or
> menacing nature;
> 5.1.2 not cause, nor knowingly allow others to cause, any nuisance
> annoyance or inconvenience whether to us or to any of our customers which
> shall include the use of the Network for the persistent sending of
> unsolicited communications without reasonable cause;
>
>
>
>
> I think sending 1,800 text messages to a single recipient so he "gets the
> message" would constitute being a nuisance, which they then can do:
>
> 2.6 We may Suspend the Services in whole or part at any time without
> notice if we have good reason to believe you haven't complied with one or
> more of these terms and conditions or if any money owed by you to us
> whether in relation to Services or not remains unpaid.
> 2.7 We shall investigate all complaints made whether by or against you and
> reserve the right to Suspend the Services if a complaint has been made
> against you pending the results of investigation of the complaint.
>
>
> Plus, apparently, sending just 165 messages per second is enough to jam
> cellphones for the whole size of Manhattan...
> http://www.smsanalysis.org/
>
> I think you'd be silly to actually do what you're suggesting.

If he's got a Nokia, I'm sure they'll believe that the same message was sent
1600 times. It'd be pretty funny, don't think they'll even notice, let's be
honest.

The worst one was when a mate of mine sent some dirty messages from my
mobile to his partner at the time. I called vodafone the next day regarding
something else, and they commented on sending abusive text via text message.
The guy said they can see the past 50 messages you have sent, and more if
required.

brnpt (remove 1414) wrote:
> hi there,
>
> i have one of those contracts with 2000 txts that i will never use
>
> i will probably have 1800+ text left on the last day of the month
>
> i want to send them all to one friend who borrowed something from me and is
> taking ages to return it, so he will "get the message" haha
>
> i can send them quite easily using Nokia PC Suite,
>
> could I get into any trouble? apart from him moaning at me

ironically, cowboy scammers can repeatedly send thousands and thousands
of unsolicted reverse-charged MMS messages at £1.50 a throw with
apparent impunity but I can guarantee that if you do what you are
considering you'll find yourself in hot water.

In article <1159678104.677408.35360@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
z35006352@hotmail.com writes
>No, I dont think you can get into any sort of legal trouble because of
>this.
>
Protection from Harassment Act 1997

1. - (1) A person must not pursue a course of conduct-

(a) which amounts to harassment of another, and
(b) which he knows or ought to know amounts to harassment of
the other.

(2) For the purposes of this section, the person whose course of
conduct is in question ought to know that it amounts to harassment of
another if a reasonable person in possession of the same information
would think the course of conduct amounted to harassment of the other.

(3) A "course of conduct" must involve conduct on at least two occasions.

So you can be in trouble by the third text, First is a reminder, second and
third (if sent unreasonably soon) could make it harassment. Send a
hundred and 'a reasonable person' is likely to view it as harassment.
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

David Hearn wrote:

> Plus, apparently, sending just 165 messages per second is enough to jam
> cellphones for the whole size of Manhattan...
> http://www.smsanalysis.org/
>

Rubbish. The analysis linked to is flawed. The mobile networks
reserve 'slots' (by algorithm, vs. specific quantity) to limit the
amount of SMS delivered from any one cell to prevent such
denial-of-service happening.

In addition, the sending of texts from the mobile into the network (vs.
the delivery) is also controlled in such a manner.