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Old 10-05-2009, 10:59 AM
Ian
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Default Three mobile broadband experience

I was recently away for a couple of weeks and, forgetting to take my T-
Mobile dongle, got a mobile broadband add-on for my 3 contract phone
(Nokia 6220) and used that as a modem. Here's a quick report...

Good stuff:

* Set up very easily, Connected the phone with USB, choose "PC Suite",
created a new mobile broadband profile - Ubuntu has "3 handsets" as an
option.

* Download speeds could be quite respectable: 1 - 2Gbps

Bad stuff

* Download speeds varied a lot, and were often much slower than the
maximum

* Upload speeds were unbelievably slow ... I don't think I ever saw
more than 10kbps. Yup, folks, it's like being back in the world of
9600 baud modems

* Website would often display no data, or not connect. www.google.co.uk
was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
www.ebay.co.uk every few days.

* No website requiring data entry of more than a few characters
worked, possibly because of the upload issue.

* The SMTP server (smtp-mbb.three.co.uk) is problematic. It seems to
be a known problem about which three do nothing: long messages (longer
than a few lines) invariably timed out and short ones only went as
text-only.

In summary

* It stinks. Don't use three mobile broadband.

Ian

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Old 10-05-2009, 02:42 PM
Theo Markettos
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Ian <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:
> * Download speeds could be quite respectable: 1 - 2Gbps


Impressive ;-)

> * Website would often display no data, or not connect. www.google.co.uk
> was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
> www.ebay.co.uk every few days.
>
> * No website requiring data entry of more than a few characters
> worked, possibly because of the upload issue.


Were you in a 2G or a 3G area? The above sounds like the 2G MTU problem (I
posted about this some weeks ago, though my 'solution' only works some of the
time). Were you perhaps in a marginal area, where sometimes you were on
Three 3G and sometimes on Orange 2G? The 2G connection is terrible, though
you can sometimes improve it by tweaking the MTU.

Theo

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Old 10-05-2009, 03:22 PM
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:59:53 -0700 (PDT), Ian
<ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:

>I was recently away for a couple of weeks and, forgetting to take my T-
>Mobile dongle, got a mobile broadband add-on for my 3 contract phone
>(Nokia 6220) and used that as a modem. Here's a quick report...
>
>Good stuff:
>
>* Set up very easily, Connected the phone with USB, choose "PC Suite",
>created a new mobile broadband profile - Ubuntu has "3 handsets" as an
>option.
>
>* Download speeds could be quite respectable: 1 - 2Gbps


Well, I've installed it on five PCs without any problem at all. I
usually get 2 to 2.5 mb/s but I've never managed to get anything like
1Gbps. In fact I don't believe it is possible.

>Bad stuff
>
>* Download speeds varied a lot, and were often much slower than the
>maximum


Rather depends on the server, doesn't it?
>
>* Upload speeds were unbelievably slow ... I don't think I ever saw
>more than 10kbps. Yup, folks, it's like being back in the world of
>9600 baud modems


Something very badly wrong there.

I just ran a speed test at thinkbroadband: these are the results,
which are pretty typical

Date 05/10/09 15:16:23
Speed Down 2381.30 Kbps ( 2.3 Mbps )
Speed Up 299.95 Kbps ( 0.3 Mbps )
Port 8095
Server speedtest1.thinkbroadband.com

url:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedt...944022541.html


>
>* Website would often display no data, or not connect. www.google.co.uk
>was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
>www.ebay.co.uk every few days.


Well, it sounds to me as if there is a fault. Though maybe you are
using the three DNS. I use OpenDNS with three connections.


>* No website requiring data entry of more than a few characters
>worked, possibly because of the upload issue.


I can upload megabytes with no problem at all.


>* The SMTP server (smtp-mbb.three.co.uk) is problematic. It seems to
>be a known problem about which three do nothing: long messages (longer
>than a few lines) invariably timed out and short ones only went as
>text-only.


I've never used their smtp server. They block port 25 so I use my own
server in a non-blocked port.

>
>In summary
>
>* It stinks. Don't use three mobile broadband.


I'd say that it is your review that stinks. I use three's mobile 3G
all day every day, and it is excellent. Even if it wasn't ridiculously
cheap, I'd still recommend it.

This is, of course, brought to you via Three's 3G broadband, which
cost me a bit less than £5 per month.

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Old 10-05-2009, 04:26 PM
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Ian wrote:
> * The SMTP server (smtp-mbb.three.co.uk) is problematic. It seems to
> be a known problem about which three do nothing: long messages (longer
> than a few lines) invariably timed out and short ones only went as
> text-only.


If you're using a USB mobile dongle to get internet access while you're out
and about, why would you use 3's email servers? Why not just go to the
webmail pages of your home broadband supplier?



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Old 10-05-2009, 05:36 PM
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Pete Zahut <dont@bother> wrote:

> Ian wrote:
>> * The SMTP server (smtp-mbb.three.co.uk) is problematic. It seems to
>> be a known problem about which three do nothing: long messages
>> (longer than a few lines) invariably timed out and short ones only
>> went as text-only.

>
> If you're using a USB mobile dongle to get internet access while
> you're out and about, why would you use 3's email servers? Why not
> just go to the webmail pages of your home broadband supplier?


Or post using a Gmail account and your usual email client. Gmail allows you
to change the port to something which 3 doesn't block.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:03 PM
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iain wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:59:53 -0700 (PDT), Ian
> <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> * Website would often display no data, or not connect. www.google.co.uk
>> was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
>> www.ebay.co.uk every few days.

>
> Well, it sounds to me as if there is a fault. Though maybe you are
> using the three DNS. I use OpenDNS with three connections.
>


Any idea how to use OpenDNS with the S2 mobile modem? As it overwrites
the settings in network connections when starting.

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Old 10-06-2009, 12:53 AM
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"iain" <spamtrap@hairydog.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bovjc591di2372me66i5oh67ma4gkesr5n@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:59:53 -0700 (PDT), Ian
> <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>I was recently away for a couple of weeks and, forgetting to take my T-
>>Mobile dongle, got a mobile broadband add-on for my 3 contract phone
>>(Nokia 6220) and used that as a modem. Here's a quick report...
>>
>>Good stuff:
>>
>>* Set up very easily, Connected the phone with USB, choose "PC Suite",
>>created a new mobile broadband profile - Ubuntu has "3 handsets" as an
>>option.
>>
>>* Download speeds could be quite respectable: 1 - 2Gbps

>
> Well, I've installed it on five PCs without any problem at all. I
> usually get 2 to 2.5 mb/s but I've never managed to get anything like
> 1Gbps. In fact I don't believe it is possible.
>
>>Bad stuff
>>
>>* Download speeds varied a lot, and were often much slower than the
>>maximum

>
> Rather depends on the server, doesn't it?
>>
>>* Upload speeds were unbelievably slow ... I don't think I ever saw
>>more than 10kbps. Yup, folks, it's like being back in the world of
>>9600 baud modems

>
> Something very badly wrong there.
>
> I just ran a speed test at thinkbroadband: these are the results,
> which are pretty typical
>
> Date 05/10/09 15:16:23
> Speed Down 2381.30 Kbps ( 2.3 Mbps )
> Speed Up 299.95 Kbps ( 0.3 Mbps )
> Port 8095
> Server speedtest1.thinkbroadband.com
>
> url:
> http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedt...944022541.html
>
>>* Website would often display no data, or not connect. www.google.co.uk
>>was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
>>www.ebay.co.uk every few days.

>
> Well, it sounds to me as if there is a fault. Though maybe you are
> using the three DNS. I use OpenDNS with three connections.
>
>>* No website requiring data entry of more than a few characters
>>worked, possibly because of the upload issue.

>
> I can upload megabytes with no problem at all.
>
>>* The SMTP server (smtp-mbb.three.co.uk) is problematic. It seems to
>>be a known problem about which three do nothing: long messages (longer
>>than a few lines) invariably timed out and short ones only went as
>>text-only.

>
> I've never used their smtp server. They block port 25 so I use my own
> server in a non-blocked port.
>
>>In summary
>>
>>* It stinks. Don't use three mobile broadband.

>
> I'd say that it is your review that stinks. I use three's mobile 3G
> all day every day, and it is excellent. Even if it wasn't ridiculously
> cheap, I'd still recommend it.
>
> This is, of course, brought to you via Three's 3G broadband, which
> cost me a bit less than £5 per month.
>
>

Ditto to everything Iain said

I wouldn't dream of using 3's SMTP server (smtp-mbb.three.co.uk)
I use googlemail and Yahoomail SMTP on their SSL ports

Also make sure you are using APN "3internet" public APN's,
not the Nat'd "three.co.uk"APN

As Ian says 3's DNS are poor, use a public one (google for public DNS's)

On speedtest.net i regularly get 2.5mbs d/l and 300kbs u/l

That is on a Three 3.5g upgraded BTS, there may be a few 3.0g
not upgraded yet where the best you'll get is 400kbs d/l

Steve Terry



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Old 10-06-2009, 01:00 AM
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"Iapetus" <Iapetus@inbox.com> wrote in message
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> iain wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:59:53 -0700 (PDT), Ian
>> <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> * Website would often display no data, or not connect. www.google.co.uk
>>> was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
>>> www.ebay.co.uk every few days.

>>
>> Well, it sounds to me as if there is a fault. Though maybe you are
>> using the three DNS. I use OpenDNS with three connections.

>
>
> Any idea how to use OpenDNS with the S2 mobile modem?
> As it overwrites the settings in network connections when starting.
>
>

Control panel / network connections / S2 mobile modem / properties /
networking / internet protocol / properties / use the following DNS / OK

Steve Terry



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Old 10-06-2009, 08:38 AM
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"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>
> Also make sure you are using APN "3internet" public APN's,
> not the Nat'd "three.co.uk"APN


Steve, could you explain a bit more your reasoning for this. Also,
would it make a difference changing this for the packet data access
point on a N97?



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Old 10-06-2009, 09:43 AM
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In article <4acaf3c5$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>, "Jack Torrence"
says...
>
> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:hae0t7$7lp$1@news.albasani.net...
> >
> > Also make sure you are using APN "3internet" public APN's,
> > not the Nat'd "three.co.uk"APN

>

What am I doing incorrectly? If I change APN in S2 Mobile Modem/Profile
to 3internet, I can't connect (using laptop and USB cable): change back
to three.co.uk and straight on. Are there settings on the S2 phone
itself which need changing? Changing DNS servers was helpful, thanks.




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Old 10-06-2009, 01:35 PM
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Steve Terry wrote:
> "Iapetus" <Iapetus@inbox.com> wrote in message
> news:hadfth$g9s$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> iain wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:59:53 -0700 (PDT), Ian
>>> <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Website would often display no data, or not connect. www.google.co.uk
>>>> was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
>>>> www.ebay.co.uk every few days.
>>> Well, it sounds to me as if there is a fault. Though maybe you are
>>> using the three DNS. I use OpenDNS with three connections.

>>
>> Any idea how to use OpenDNS with the S2 mobile modem?
>> As it overwrites the settings in network connections when starting.
>>
>>

> Control panel / network connections / S2 mobile modem / properties /
> networking / internet protocol / properties / use the following DNS / OK
>


Doesn't work, it overwrites any changes made to the S2 Modem in Network
Connections when connecting.



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Old 10-06-2009, 09:22 PM
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In message <hafdht$b8a$1@news.eternal-september.org>
Iapetus <Iapetus@inbox.com> wrote:

> Steve Terry wrote:
> > "Iapetus" <Iapetus@inbox.com> wrote in message
> > news:hadfth$g9s$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> iain wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:59:53 -0700 (PDT), Ian
> >>> <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> * Website would often display no data, or not connect. www.google.co.uk
> >>>> was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
> >>>> www.ebay.co.uk every few days.
> >>> Well, it sounds to me as if there is a fault. Though maybe you are
> >>> using the three DNS. I use OpenDNS with three connections.
> >>
> >> Any idea how to use OpenDNS with the S2 mobile modem?
> >> As it overwrites the settings in network connections when starting.
> >>
> >>

> > Control panel / network connections / S2 mobile modem / properties /
> > networking / internet protocol / properties / use the following DNS / OK
> >

>
> Doesn't work, it overwrites any changes made to the S2 Modem in Network
> Connections when connecting.


AFAIUI that's normal - you have to do the changes /after/ connecting.

Dave

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:01 PM
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On 5 Oct, 14:42, Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
wrote:
> Ian <ian.gro...@btinternet.com> wrote:


> > * No website requiring data entry of more than a few characters
> > worked, possibly because of the upload issue.

>
> Were you in a 2G or a 3G area? *The above sounds like the 2G MTU problem (I
> posted about this some weeks ago, though my 'solution' only works some ofthe
> time). *Were you perhaps in a marginal area, where sometimes you were on
> Three 3G and sometimes on Orange 2G? *The 2G connection is terrible, though
> you can sometimes improve it by tweaking the MTU.


No, solidly on 3G. I was in St Ives in Cornwall.

Ian


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Old 10-06-2009, 11:07 PM
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On 5 Oct, 15:22, iain <spamt...@hairydog.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:59:53 -0700 (PDT), Ian
>
> <ian.gro...@btinternet.com> wrote:


> >* Download speeds could be quite respectable: 1 - 2Gbps

>
> Well, I've installed it on five PCs without any problem at all. I
> usually get 2 to 2.5 mb/s but I've never managed to get anything like
> 1Gbps. In fact I don't believe it is possible.


D'oh. Sorry, Make that 1 - 2 Mbps!

> >Bad stuff

>
> >* Download speeds varied a lot, and were often much slower than the
> >maximum

>
> Rather depends on the server, doesn't it?


Of course. But it was consistent across many servers: if work email
was running slow, the BBC would be running slow as well.

> >* Upload speeds were unbelievably slow ... I don't think I ever saw
> >more than 10kbps. Yup, folks, it's like being back in the world of
> >9600 baud modems

>
> Something very badly wrong there.


You're telling me.

> I just ran a speed test at thinkbroadband: these are the results,
> which are pretty typical


In St Ives?

> >* Website would often display no data, or not connect.www.google.co.uk
> >was like this for about half the time, and I could only get through to
> >www.ebay.co.ukevery few days.

>
> Well, it sounds to me as if there is a fault. Though maybe you are
> using the three DNS. I use OpenDNS with three connections.


Yup, three DNS.

> >* No website requiring data entry of more than a few characters
> >worked, possibly because of the upload issue.

>
> I can upload megabytes with no problem at all.


Well I couldn't. As a f'rexample, I tried on several occasions to post
to three different forums without success.

> >* The SMTP server (smtp-mbb.three.co.uk) is problematic. It seems to
> >be a known problem about which three do nothing: long messages (longer
> >than a few lines) invariably timed out and short ones only went as
> >text-only.

>
> I've never used their smtp server. They block port 25 so I use my own
> server in a non-blocked port.


Well, that's lovely for you.

> >In summary

>
> >* It stinks. Don't use three mobile broadband.

>
> I'd say that it is your review that stinks. I use three's mobile 3G
> all day every day, and it is excellent. Even if it wasn't ridiculously
> cheap, I'd still recommend it.


Perhaps it's an area specific thing. I note that quite a few other
online reviews slate their upload speeds. However, I've got a trip to
Edinburgh and London coming up and 900Mb unused allowance, so I'll do
some more tests.

Ian

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:10 PM
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On 5 Oct, 16:26, "Pete Zahut" <dont@bother> wrote:
> Ian wrote:
> > * The SMTP server (smtp-mbb.three.co.uk) is problematic. It seems to
> > be a known problem about which three do nothing: long messages (longer
> > than a few lines) invariably timed out and short ones only went as
> > text-only.

>
> If you're using a USB mobile dongle to get internet access while you're out
> and about, why would you use 3's email servers? Why not just go to the
> webmail pages of your home broadband supplier?


Well, for a start my email does not live on my home broadband
supplier's webpages. There is a web interface to the server it lives
on, but since NO website requiring submission of more than trivial
amounts of data in forms worked, it wasn't much use. I tried it - yes,
I could read my email but I couldn't send anything.


Ian

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:13 PM
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On 5 Oct, 17:36, "Roger Mills" <watt.ty...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Or post using a Gmail account and your usual email client. Gmail allows you
> to change the port to something which 3 doesn't block.


So between you and Iain you'd say that Three mobile broadband is
absolutely fine as long as you use somebody else's DNS servers, give
non standard APN and change your email provider.

Wow. And it still doesn't deal with crap upload speeds.

Ian

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:23 PM
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"Jim" <nospam@anywhere.de> wrote in message
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> In article <4acaf3c5$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>, "Jack Torrence"
> says...
>>
>> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
>> news:hae0t7$7lp$1@news.albasani.net...
>> >
>> > Also make sure you are using APN "3internet" public APN's,
>> > not the Nat'd "three.co.uk"APN

>>

> What am I doing incorrectly? If I change APN in S2 Mobile Modem/Profile
> to 3internet, I can't connect (using laptop and USB cable): change back
> to three.co.uk and straight on. Are there settings on the S2 phone
> itself which need changing? Changing DNS servers was helpful, thanks.
> Jim
>
>

Works for me on my S2, usb cable, and laptop,
I just changed APN in the S2 mobile modem app

Might be a sim thing? the Sims in usb dongles have sim profile limitations
but not heard of a problem with 3Pay phone sims.

You could pick up another free 3Pay sim sim from a three shop and try that
instead?

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:29 PM
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"Jack Torrence" <room217[at]overlook.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:hae0t7$7lp$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> Also make sure you are using APN "3internet" public APN's,
>> not the Nat'd "three.co.uk"APN

>
> Steve, could you explain a bit more your reasoning for this. Also, would
> it make a difference changing this for the packet data access point on a
> N97?
>

Seems the Nat'd "three.co.uk APN is fenced

Steve Terry



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Old 10-06-2009, 11:39 PM
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"Ian" <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On 5 Oct, 17:36, "Roger Mills" <watt.ty...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Or post using a Gmail account and your usual email client. Gmail allows
>> you
>> to change the port to something which 3 doesn't block.

>
> So between you and Iain you'd say that Three mobile broadband is
> absolutely fine as long as you use somebody else's DNS servers, give
> non standard APN and change your email provider.
>
> Wow. And it still doesn't deal with crap upload speeds.
> Ian
>
>

You are quite right, don't use it

I'll just have to keep on suffering paying 5quid a month
for my reliable 2mbs d/l and 300kbs u/l, often exceeding my
2gb p.m. fair use.

Also getting 3000 3 to 3 mins and 300text for 3 months,
and unlimited Skype

Not that i have time to use that as i use my S2 as a modem

Steve Terry



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Old 10-07-2009, 10:43 PM
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In article <hagg28$5ht$1@news.albasani.net>, gFOURwwk@tesco.net says...
>
> "Jim" <nospam@anywhere.de> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2535136fcb943ceb98968e@news.datemas.de...
> > In article <4acaf3c5$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>, "Jack Torrence"
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> >> news:hae0t7$7lp$1@news.albasani.net...
> >> >

> > What am I doing incorrectly?

>
> Might be a sim thing? the Sims in usb dongles have sim profile limitations
> but not heard of a problem with 3Pay phone sims.
>
> You could pick up another free 3Pay sim sim from a three shop and try that
> instead?
>
> Steve Terry


That could be it. I am using a dongle sim. Will try a phone sim and
report back.


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Old 10-08-2009, 08:06 AM
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"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "Jack Torrence" <room217[at]overlook.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:4acaf3c5$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>>
>> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
>> news:hae0t7$7lp$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>
>>> Also make sure you are using APN "3internet" public APN's,
>>> not the Nat'd "three.co.uk"APN

>>
>> Steve, could you explain a bit more your reasoning for this. Also,
>> would it make a difference changing this for the packet data access
>> point on a N97?
>>

> Seems the Nat'd "three.co.uk APN is fenced


Which means sweet FA to me, and I'd hazard a guess, most other normal
folks too.



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Old 10-08-2009, 08:26 AM
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> >>
> >> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> >> news:hae0t7$7lp$1@news.albasani.net...


> >>

> > What am I doing incorrectly?

>
> Might be a sim thing? the Sims in usb dongles have sim profile limitations
> but not heard of a problem with 3Pay phone sims.
>
> Steve Terry


You are right. Used a PAYG phone sim and 3internet connects as an APN.
Thanks.

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Old 10-08-2009, 01:18 PM
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On 5 Oct, 10:59, Ian <ian.gro...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> In summary
>
> * It stinks. Don't use three mobile broadband.


Update. I connected using 3 in Edinburgh airport and again in central
London and ran the test at www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.k.

Results:

Download was 1056Kbps (Edinburgh) and 1356Kbps (London). Variable,
though - that was the top speed in each case. The first time I ran the
test in London I got around 800Kbps.

Upload was, well, interesting. Every time I ran the test it showed 10
- 20Kbps for the first half or so of the test, then whizzed through
the second half almost instantaneously. The best results over a few
goes were 244Kbps (Edinburgh) and 56Kbps (London).

I found the sudden speed up on all the uploads a little surprising. I
wonder if 3 is detecting and then prioritising the traffic.

From the postings here it seems that some people are getting quite
good results from 3 Mobile Broadband. It does seem to be location and
time specific, though, so with that uncertainty and their crap DNS /
SMTP provision, I think my advice is still "avoid".

Ian


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Old 10-08-2009, 06:24 PM
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Ian <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote in news:7be0725f-da56-4138-9b54-
ba46978e58ff@r31g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:

> On 5 Oct, 10:59, Ian <ian.gro...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> From the postings here it seems that some people are getting quite
> good results from 3 Mobile Broadband. It does seem to be location and
> time specific, though, so with that uncertainty and their crap DNS /
> SMTP provision, I think my advice is still "avoid".


I've had 3UK mobile broadband for a week now with no problems - it just
works.

The signal goes between 3G and HSDPA but as it's seamless I dont really
notice it. Speeds: 2MB +/- which is acceptable.

The DNS I use OpenDNS.com so don't have a problem.
SMTP I use my own domain so again doesn't pose a problem.

Overall cant grumble for 15GB @ £15 p/m
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Old 10-08-2009, 09:13 PM
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Dave Higton wrote:

>>>> Any idea how to use OpenDNS with the S2 mobile modem?
>>>> As it overwrites the settings in network connections when starting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Control panel / network connections / S2 mobile modem / properties /
>>> networking / internet protocol / properties / use the following DNS / OK
>>>

>> Doesn't work, it overwrites any changes made to the S2 Modem in Network
>> Connections when connecting.

>
> AFAIUI that's normal - you have to do the changes /after/ connecting.


This still doesn't work for me. When I go to the
OpenDNS website, I get the

'Oops, you aren't using OpenDNS yet. Go back to
Step 1 to set up OpenDNS'. If I restart, DNS
settings are reset to 'automatic'.

Any further suggestions, please?


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Old 10-09-2009, 02:14 PM
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Ruth wrote:
> Dave Higton wrote:
>
>>>>> Any idea how to use OpenDNS with the S2 mobile modem?
>>>>> As it overwrites the settings in network connections when starting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Control panel / network connections / S2 mobile modem / properties /
>>>> networking / internet protocol / properties / use the following DNS
>>>> / OK
>>>>
>>> Doesn't work, it overwrites any changes made to the S2 Modem in Network
>>> Connections when connecting.

>>
>> AFAIUI that's normal - you have to do the changes /after/ connecting.

>
> This still doesn't work for me. When I go to the OpenDNS website, I get
> the
>
> 'Oops, you aren't using OpenDNS yet. Go back to Step 1 to set up
> OpenDNS'. If I restart, DNS settings are reset to 'automatic'.
>
> Any further suggestions, please?
>


What I did do was make a copy of the S2 in Network Connections (or the
program will just restore settings), use the phone numbers from the S2
program, leave user and password blank, uncheck ask for user/password
and use the Network Connections one directly, bypassing the S2 program
all together.

Sometimes I'd have to start the program that came with the phone just to
get the PC to see the phone, close it and connect with the shortcut to
Network Connections.

Connects a lot faster than the one for the phone too.

I just cant see a way to change the APN with it.

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Old 10-09-2009, 07:17 PM
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Iapetus wrote:
> Ruth wrote:
>> Dave Higton wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Any idea how to use OpenDNS with the S2 mobile modem?
>>>>>> As it overwrites the settings in network connections when starting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Control panel / network connections / S2 mobile modem / properties /
>>>>> networking / internet protocol / properties / use the following DNS
>>>>> / OK
>>>>>
>>>> Doesn't work, it overwrites any changes made to the S2 Modem in Network
>>>> Connections when connecting.
>>>
>>> AFAIUI that's normal - you have to do the changes /after/ connecting.

>>
>> This still doesn't work for me. When I go to the OpenDNS website, I
>> get the
>>
>> 'Oops, you aren't using OpenDNS yet. Go back to Step 1 to set up
>> OpenDNS'. If I restart, DNS settings are reset to 'automatic'.
>>
>> Any further suggestions, please?
>>

>
> What I did do was make a copy of the S2 in Network Connections (or the
> program will just restore settings), use the phone numbers from the S2
> program, leave user and password blank, uncheck ask for user/password
> and use the Network Connections one directly, bypassing the S2 program
> all together.
>
> Sometimes I'd have to start the program that came with the phone just to
> get the PC to see the phone, close it and connect with the shortcut to
> Network Connections.
>
> Connects a lot faster than the one for the phone too.
>
> I just cant see a way to change the APN with it.



Thank you for that. I'm way out my depth here but
for changing the APN, I created a new account on
the S2;

Settings->Network Settings->Data
Connection->Options->New

If I've got that wrong, hopefully the
knowledgeable Steve Terry will be along shortly to
put me right! ;-)


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Old 10-13-2009, 11:41 AM
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:13:03 -0700 (PDT), Ian
<ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:

>So between you and Iain you'd say that Three mobile broadband is
>absolutely fine


Yes

> as long as you use somebody else's DNS servers,


True of almost every ISP in the budget range.

>give
>non standard APN


No, the standard one is fine for me.

> and change your email provider.


Er, no: the opposite. Don't change your email provider: use the one
you had beofre switching to 3. Why change?


>Wow. And it still doesn't deal with crap upload speeds.


The upload speeds are faster than most people get with 8Mb/sec ADSL. I
don't think that counts as "crap"


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Old 10-13-2009, 01:14 PM
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iain <spamtrap@hairydog.co.uk> wrote in
news:27m8d59j60ju54r484b9a66fmuq7l0aafg@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:13:03 -0700 (PDT), Ian
> <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>So between you and Iain you'd say that Three mobile broadband is
>>absolutely fine

>
> Yes


Include me cos I have no problem with it.
I've had 3UK mobile broadband about 2 weeks now with no problems to speak
of & I live in a rural area

>> as long as you use somebody else's DNS servers,

>
> True of almost every ISP in the budget range.


Ditto. I've always used OpenDNS IP's for may years even with fixed line
cable.

>>give
>>non standard APN

>
> No, the standard one is fine for me.
>
>> and change your email provider.

>
> Er, no: the opposite. Don't change your email provider: use the one
> you had beofre switching to 3. Why change?


Agree

>>Wow. And it still doesn't deal with crap upload speeds.

>
> The upload speeds are faster than most people get with 8Mb/sec ADSL. I
> don't think that counts as "crap"


Totally agree again - speaking from experience
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:14 PM
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On 13/10/09 13:14, in article Xns9CA386ADC50E5encoderX@188.40.43.213,
"encoderX" <Usenet@-REMOVE-THIS-encoderX.net> wrote:

> iain <spamtrap@hairydog.co.uk> wrote in
> news:27m8d59j60ju54r484b9a66fmuq7l0aafg@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:13:03 -0700 (PDT), Ian
>> <ian.groups@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So between you and Iain you'd say that Three mobile broadband is
>>> absolutely fine

>>
>> Yes

>
> Include me cos I have no problem with it.
> I've had 3UK mobile broadband about 2 weeks now with no problems to speak
> of & I live in a rural area
>
>>> as long as you use somebody else's DNS servers,

>>
>> True of almost every ISP in the budget range.

>
> Ditto. I've always used OpenDNS IP's for may years even with fixed line
> cable.
>
>>> give
>>> non standard APN

>>
>> No, the standard one is fine for me.
>>
>>> and change your email provider.

>>
>> Er, no: the opposite. Don't change your email provider: use the one
>> you had beofre switching to 3. Why change?

>
> Agree
>
>>> Wow. And it still doesn't deal with crap upload speeds.

>>
>> The upload speeds are faster than most people get with 8Mb/sec ADSL. I
>> don't think that counts as "crap"

>
> Totally agree again - speaking from experience
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I just thought I'd share my experiences. I bought a 3 dongle for use when
at the caravan in the Borders in Scotland. Went up last weekend only to
find the Mobile Broadband was 'off the air'. Went off Friday night for
approx 24 hours. This was an improvement on the time I wanted for use when
I was up there in August on holiday, then it was off for 6 days, they said
they were upgrading it. The neighbour in the next caravan had also bought
one and he said it had been okay for the past fortnight and that was the
longest it had been up in one go. When it works I am very pleased with it
but there is nothing more frustrating than having it and it not working. I
bought a router for it as well. What made it worse on this occasion was
that I had topped it up with £10 even though I will probably have only been
using it last weekend only to find it wasn't working.
Lynn


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