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Old 04-08-2007, 11:27 PM
GW
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Default Unlocking Samsung E250

Hi all,

I have a Samsung E250 phone currently tied to T-Mobile.

I was hoping to get the phone unlocked so that I could use it when I
go to Canada, but I am unsure how to go about it.

Having searched the net, I found a code which I thought would do it,
but it instead deleted the IMEI code from the phone.

So does anyone know of a way of unlocking the phone and at the same
time put the IMEI code back on the phone ?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

GW


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Old 04-09-2007, 06:38 AM
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premcomp@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Samsung E250 phone currently tied to T-Mobile.
>
> I was hoping to get the phone unlocked so that I could use it when I
> go to Canada, but I am unsure how to go about it.
>
> Having searched the net, I found a code which I thought would do it,
> but it instead deleted the IMEI code from the phone.


Deleted your IMEI? I'd be very surprised if that were true.

Type in *#06# and see what it tells you.

> So does anyone know of a way of unlocking the phone and at the same
> time put the IMEI code back on the phone ?


Contact t-mobile and pay them. But if your IMEI has been corrupted then
your chances of unlocking the phone have just nose-dived.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:21 AM
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Default Re: Unlocking Samsung E250

On 9 Apr, 07:38, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
> premc...@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
>
> > Hi all,

>
> > I have a Samsung E250 phone currently tied to T-Mobile.

>
> > I was hoping to get the phone unlocked so that I could use it when I
> > go to Canada, but I am unsure how to go about it.

>
> > Having searched the net, I found a code which I thought would do it,
> > but it instead deleted the IMEI code from the phone.

>
> Deleted your IMEI? I'd be very surprised if that were true.
>
> Type in *#06# and see what it tells you.
>
> > So does anyone know of a way of unlocking the phone and at the same
> > time put the IMEI code back on the phone ?

>
> Contact t-mobile and pay them. But if your IMEI has been corrupted then
> your chances of unlocking the phone have just nose-dived.
> --
> Regards
> Jon


The IMEI code is all zeros.

Does it sound bad ?

GW


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Old 04-09-2007, 07:58 AM
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"GW" <premcomp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176103292.023944.89740@w1g2000hsg.googlegrou ps.com...
> On 9 Apr, 07:38, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
>> premc...@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...

>
> The IMEI code is all zeros.
>
> Does it sound bad ?
>
> GW


No not really, do you have the box with the imei number on it is the sticker
underneath the battery still intact with the number?

If so, wander down to your local independent mobile phone shup that does
unlocking and tell them it needs the IMEI repaired/written to the phone. No
more difficult than unlocking it, which they can do at the same time.



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Old 04-09-2007, 12:16 PM
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premcomp@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> The IMEI code is all zeros.
> Does it sound bad ?


Well, if I told you that the penalty for IMEI changing is a maximum of 5
years in prison, would you class that as bad?
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:17 PM
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"Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> declared for all the world to hear...
> If so, wander down to your local independent mobile phone shup that does
> unlocking and tell them it needs the IMEI repaired/written to the phone. No
> more difficult than unlocking it, which they can do at the same time.


IMEI changing is illegal in the UK unless you are a licensed repairer,
not many dealers will openly advertise this "service".
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:51 PM
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"Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> wrote in message
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>
> "GW" <premcomp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1176103292.023944.89740@w1g2000hsg.googlegrou ps.com...
>> On 9 Apr, 07:38, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
>>> premc...@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...

>>
>> The IMEI code is all zeros.
>>
>> Does it sound bad ?
>>
>> GW

>
> No not really, do you have the box with the imei number on it is the
> sticker underneath the battery still intact with the number?
>
> If so, wander down to your local independent mobile phone shup that does
> unlocking and tell them it needs the IMEI repaired/written to the phone.
> No more difficult than unlocking it, which they can do at the same time.


Erm... no.

I think you'll find that no legitimate independent phone shop will touch the
IMEI given that the penalties for doing so are up to five years in clink
plus a potentially unlimted fine.

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Old 04-09-2007, 03:52 PM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20843f0f30e6feda98a8a2@text.usenet.plus.n et...
> premcomp@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> The IMEI code is all zeros.
>> Does it sound bad ?

>
> Well, if I told you that the penalty for IMEI changing is a maximum of 5
> years in prison, would you class that as bad?



Well, no one said anything about changing it. Since when did repairing a
phone and rewriting the same imei to a phone become illegal?



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Old 04-09-2007, 03:54 PM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20843f401c2486a798a8a3@text.usenet.plus.n et...
> "Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> declared for all the world to hear...
>> If so, wander down to your local independent mobile phone shup that does
>> unlocking and tell them it needs the IMEI repaired/written to the phone.
>> No
>> more difficult than unlocking it, which they can do at the same time.

>
> IMEI changing is illegal in the UK unless you are a licensed repairer,
> not many dealers will openly advertise this "service".
> --



What legislation licences you to change the IMEI in the UK?

Besides, we're talking about reparing/rewriting the IMEI to a phone.



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Old 04-09-2007, 03:57 PM
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"Richard Colton" <webmaster@NILSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Erm... no.
>
> I think you'll find that no legitimate independent phone shop will touch
> the IMEI given that the penalties for doing so are up to five years in
> clink plus a potentially unlimted fine.


Really, what for taking a damaged phone and rewriting the same IMEI number
to it, to repair it.

Now if it was a blocked/barred phone and you were trying to write an IMEI
number from a good phone to a barred/blocked phone then that is different.
But to repair a phone by re-writing its own original IMEI number is not the
same.



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Old 04-09-2007, 04:10 PM
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"Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> wrote in message
news:4619f220$0$10733$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>
> "GW" <premcomp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1176103292.023944.89740@w1g2000hsg.googlegrou ps.com...
>> On 9 Apr, 07:38, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
>>> premc...@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...

>>
>> The IMEI code is all zeros.
>>
>> Does it sound bad ?
>>
>> GW

>
> No not really, do you have the box with the imei number on it is the
> sticker underneath the battery still intact with the number?
>
> If so, wander down to your local independent mobile phone shup that does
> unlocking and tell them it needs the IMEI repaired/written to the phone.
> No more difficult than unlocking it, which they can do at the same time.



And for all the so called experts here, spouting rubbish and mis-quoting,

Read the legislation and answer two questions,

Where does it say it is illegal to repair the IMEI or/and where it states
anything different to the illegal action being to CHANGE the IMEI and
secondly where in my original reply did it mention anything other than
repairing/re-writing the original IMEI?

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2002/20020031.htm



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Old 04-09-2007, 04:22 PM
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"Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> declared for all the world to hear...
> > Well, if I told you that the penalty for IMEI changing is a maximum of 5
> > years in prison, would you class that as bad?


> Well, no one said anything about changing it.


It already has been changed though, so changing back (what you call
repairing) is still an offence.
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Old 04-09-2007, 04:23 PM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> premcomp@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> The IMEI code is all zeros.
>> Does it sound bad ?

>
> Well, if I told you that the penalty for IMEI changing is a maximum of 5
> years in prison, would you class that as bad?
> --
> Regards
> Jon


that is nothing for the people up this way ..........



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Old 04-09-2007, 04:25 PM
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"Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> declared for all the world to hear...
> What legislation licences you to change the IMEI in the UK?


Section 1, paragraph 3b of the Act you quote in another post seems to
fit the bill.

Also explained in the explanatory note paragraph 5.

> Besides, we're talking about reparing/rewriting the IMEI to a phone.


You are still changing it.
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Old 04-09-2007, 04:36 PM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> "Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> declared for all the world to hear...
>> What legislation licences you to change the IMEI in the UK?

>
> Section 1, paragraph 3b of the Act you quote in another post seems to
> fit the bill.
>
> Also explained in the explanatory note paragraph 5.
>
>> Besides, we're talking about reparing/rewriting the IMEI to a phone.

>
> You are still changing it.
> --



Right, just so I'm absolutely clear on what you are saying. A customer
brings a damaged phone into a shop with the original details and asks for it
to be repaired, which involves the re-writing of the original IMEI, you are
saying that you (the person/shop owner) would be arrested and imprisoned if
the relevant authorities found out?



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Old 04-09-2007, 07:34 PM
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> "Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> declared for all the world to hear...
>> > Well, if I told you that the penalty for IMEI changing is a maximum of
>> > 5
>> > years in prison, would you class that as bad?

>
>> Well, no one said anything about changing it.

>
> It already has been changed though, so changing back (what you call
> repairing) is still an offence.
> --
> Regards
> Jon


In my opinion, restoring the number to what it was originally what not be
deemed an offense under the act quoted. If the IMEI is currently all zeros
then that probably counts as no IMEI at all, so to restore the original
would not be a "changing" of the number.

However, the penalty being as stiff as it is, I doubt if any repairer would
want to be the first test case, aspecially if the job only earns him a
tenner. He's gonna say no thanks, not worth the risk.



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Old 04-09-2007, 08:05 PM
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"Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> wrote in message
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> "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NILSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:LFqSh.8226$NK2.7639@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> Erm... no.
>>
>> I think you'll find that no legitimate independent phone shop will touch
>> the IMEI given that the penalties for doing so are up to five years in
>> clink plus a potentially unlimted fine.

>
> Really, what for taking a damaged phone and rewriting the same IMEI number
> to it, to repair it.


Yes.

> Now if it was a blocked/barred phone and you were trying to write an IMEI
> number from a good phone to a barred/blocked phone then that is different.
> But to repair a phone by re-writing its own original IMEI number is not
> the same.


Unfortunately, in Law I think you'll find that there is little difference.
I certainly wouldn't take the risk to find out, would you?

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Old 04-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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"Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> wrote in message
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> "Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2084796c7f88051398a8a8@text.usenet.plus.n et...
>> "Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> declared for all the world to hear...
>>> What legislation licences you to change the IMEI in the UK?

>>
>> Section 1, paragraph 3b of the Act you quote in another post seems to
>> fit the bill.
>>
>> Also explained in the explanatory note paragraph 5.
>>
>>> Besides, we're talking about reparing/rewriting the IMEI to a phone.

>>
>> You are still changing it.

>
>
> Right, just so I'm absolutely clear on what you are saying. A customer
> brings a damaged phone into a shop with the original details and asks for
> it to be repaired, which involves the re-writing of the original IMEI, you
> are saying that you (the person/shop owner) would be arrested and
> imprisoned if the relevant authorities found out?


No, he's saying it could possibly happen. Any sensible independent would
not risk it, a licensed agent of the manufacturer may.

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Old 04-10-2007, 06:49 AM
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"Road_HogŪ" <No Spam> declared for all the world to hear...
> Right, just so I'm absolutely clear on what you are saying. A customer
> brings a damaged phone into a shop with the original details and asks for it
> to be repaired, which involves the re-writing of the original IMEI, you are
> saying that you (the person/shop owner) would be arrested and imprisoned if
> the relevant authorities found out?


Unless that dealer was an authorised (by Samsung, with permission to
change/reprogramme IMEI numbers) service centre then yes they would have
committed the offence.
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