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Old 01-16-2011, 06:36 PM
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Default Using Wi-Fi on a smartphone

How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning
Wi-Fi on?
I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One

thanks
divoch


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Old 01-16-2011, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: Using Wi-Fi on a smartphone

on 16/01/2011, divoch supposed :
> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am actually
> using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning Wi-Fi on?
> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One
>
> thanks
> divoch


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WIFI. COMPARE RESULTS. CAPS, sorry!



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Old 01-16-2011, 07:29 PM
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divoch wrote:
> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
> actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning
> Wi-Fi on?
> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One


If the WiFi symbol is shown on the status bar, then the
3G/HSDPA/EDGE/GPRS icon should turn off, leaving just the phone signal
strength icon.

If you're paranoid then hold the phone near an AM radio or set of
amplified speakers while using it, you'll soon tell if data is going
over WiFi or the phone network!

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Old 01-16-2011, 10:14 PM
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On 2011-01-16, divoch <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
> actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning
> Wi-Fi on?
> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One
>
> thanks
> divoch


I disable 'mobile network' unless I want to use it deliberately. You
should be able to do this through the 'Settings' options you get when you
press the physical 'menu' button, but there are various apps and widgets
that provide short-cuts or 'toggles' for the GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, 'mobile
internet', etc - search the 'market' for 'power control'.

I think some apps have settings of their own to 'use wifi if possible'.

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Old 01-16-2011, 10:50 PM
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"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2011-01-16, divoch <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
>> actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning
>> Wi-Fi on?
>> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One
>>
>> thanks
>> divoch

>
> I disable 'mobile network' unless I want to use it deliberately.


Does that mean you cannot make or receive any calls, or does it apply only
to data?

divoch


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Old 01-16-2011, 11:40 PM
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"divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
> actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning
> Wi-Fi on?
> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One
>
> thanks
> divoch


Not sure how smart LG phones are.

On Blackberries it is easy - you can disable the net and enable the wi-fi
(but no calls).

On Nokia it is a little more difficult, but if you set it to "always ask"
before using a connection, you can see which connection it proposes to use.
Nokia's sometimes switch wi-fi connections without asking, but I have never
seen it jump mode. If there is a live wi-fi connection a symbol showing
this appears, whereas a live radio connection you can sometimes tell if 3.5G
appears (this is not used for calls). As with wi-fi it will jump between
connections, selecting the best from WAP, GPRS, EDGE, 3G or HSPDA that it
can see, but not IME switch to wi-fi.



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Old 01-17-2011, 07:22 AM
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"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sNHYo.112170$WK5.44705@newsfe28.ams2...
>> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
>> actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning
>> Wi-Fi on?
>> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One
>>
>> thanks
>> divoch

>
> Not sure how smart LG phones are.
>



its android. lots of free apps to monitor usage and control settings..

> On Blackberries it is easy - you can disable the net and enable the wi-fi
> (but no calls).
>
> On Nokia it is a little more difficult, but if you set it to "always ask"
> before using a connection, you can see which connection it proposes to
> use. Nokia's sometimes switch wi-fi connections without asking, but I have
> never seen it jump mode. If there is a live wi-fi connection a symbol
> showing this appears, whereas a live radio connection you can sometimes
> tell if 3.5G appears (this is not used for calls). As with wi-fi it will
> jump between connections, selecting the best from WAP, GPRS, EDGE, 3G or
> HSPDA that it can see, but not IME switch to wi-fi.
>


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Old 01-17-2011, 08:44 AM
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"Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:lPidnWRDuf9jEq7QnZ2dnUVZ8hSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sNHYo.112170$WK5.44705@newsfe28.ams2...
>>> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
>>> actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning
>>> Wi-Fi on?
>>> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> divoch

>>
>> Not sure how smart LG phones are.
>>

>
>
> its android. lots of free apps to monitor usage and control settings..
>
>> On Blackberries it is easy - you can disable the net and enable the wi-fi
>> (but no calls).
>>
>> On Nokia it is a little more difficult, but if you set it to "always ask"
>> before using a connection...


I have discovered there is a "notification drawer" that includes Wi-Fi,
Bluetooth, GPS, 3G connection and Ring icons. I can turn any of them On and
Off. The only question now is whether turning off 3G connection using this
icon actually prevents ANY data over the RADIO network anywhere in the world
or not.
Above the "notification drawer" drawer there is a status bar that can show
many things including signal strength etc; there are also also Data in or
Data out or Data in/out indicators. I am not sure if they relate only to the
radio network data ( and not to data over Wi-Fi) but if they do then I
would have all the info to check whether I am on Wi-Fi only or not.

divoch


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Old 01-17-2011, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Using Wi-Fi on a smartphone

On 2011-01-16, divoch <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnij6uu5.gls.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
>> On 2011-01-16, divoch <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>>> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
>>> actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after turning
>>> Wi-Fi on?
>>> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> divoch

>>
>> I disable 'mobile network' unless I want to use it deliberately.

>
> Does that mean you cannot make or receive any calls, or does it apply only
> to data?
>
> divoch


It applies only to data.

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Old 01-18-2011, 01:58 AM
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"divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ih0u8h$2oj$1@four.albasani.net...
>>
>>
>> "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message

SNIP
>>>
>>> On Nokia it is a little more difficult, but if you set it to "always
>>> ask" before using a connection...

>
> I have discovered there is a "notification drawer" that includes Wi-Fi,
> Bluetooth, GPS, 3G connection and Ring icons. I can turn any of them On
> and Off. The only question now is whether turning off 3G connection using
> this icon actually prevents ANY data over the RADIO network anywhere in
> the world or not.
> Above the "notification drawer" drawer there is a status bar that can show
> many things including signal strength etc; there are also also Data in or
> Data out or Data in/out indicators. I am not sure if they relate only to
> the radio network data ( and not to data over Wi-Fi) but if they do then
> I would have all the info to check whether I am on Wi-Fi only or not.
>
> divoch


Network calls or texts on 3G or GSm don't count as data, but may be
chargeable in their own right.

VOIP calls using the data segment will be chargeable as data.. On
Blackberry if you stop radio network you also disable calls and texts,
whereas on Nokia you only stop data (OTOH it is too easy to accidentally
re-initiate it).



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Old 01-19-2011, 08:32 AM
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"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:SnUYo.3995$NG3.1378@newsfe22.ams2...
>>
>> "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ih0u8h$2oj$1@four.albasani.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message

> SNIP
>>>>
>>>> On Nokia it is a little more difficult, but if you set it to "always
>>>> ask" before using a connection...

>>
>> I have discovered there is a "notification drawer" that includes Wi-Fi,
>> Bluetooth, GPS, 3G connection and Ring icons. I can turn any of them On
>> and Off. The only question now is whether turning off 3G connection using
>> this icon actually prevents ANY data over the RADIO network anywhere in
>> the world or not.
>> Above the "notification drawer" drawer there is a status bar that can
>> show many things including signal strength etc; there are also also Data
>> in or Data out or Data in/out indicators. I am not sure if they relate
>> only to the radio network data ( and not to data over Wi-Fi) but if they
>> do then I would have all the info to check whether I am on Wi-Fi only or
>> not.
>>
>> divoch

>
> Network calls or texts on 3G or GSm don't count as data, but may be
> chargeable in their own right.
>
> VOIP calls using the data segment will be chargeable as data.. On
> Blackberry if you stop radio network you also disable calls and texts,
> whereas on Nokia you only stop data (OTOH it is too easy to accidentally
> re-initiate it).


Question is what turning 3G Off on my Android phone does. If it turns off
all the data and only data then it is fine, otherwise not, particularly
because I am on 3 network. Alternatively, whether there is any other sure
way turning data off (without downloading some special software)

divoch


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Old 01-19-2011, 09:05 AM
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divoch wrote:

> Question is what turning 3G Off on my Android phone does. If it turns
> off all the data and only data then it is fine, otherwise not,
> particularly because I am on 3 network. Alternatively, whether there is
> any other sure way turning data off (without downloading some special
> software)


As I said earlier, if you've enabled WiFi, then providing it has found
an access point that it is able to connect to, you will see the the 3G,
HSDPA, EDGE or GPRS icon turn off, at that point all data will go via
WiFi, leaving SMS/MMS and voice calls going via the phone network.

Adding the 'Power Control' widget to your homescreen might help you see
what is currently enabled. I run custom firmware that has an enhanced
version of the Power Control widget, so I may be used to extra features
you won't have, in which case the SwitchPro widget from the market may
be useful for you.

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Old 01-19-2011, 09:45 AM
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"Andy Burns" <usenet.aug2009@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote in message
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> divoch wrote:
>
>> Question is what turning 3G Off on my Android phone does. If it turns
>> off all the data and only data then it is fine, otherwise not,
>> particularly because I am on 3 network. Alternatively, whether there is
>> any other sure way turning data off (without downloading some special
>> software)

>
> As I said earlier, if you've enabled WiFi, then providing it has found
> an access point that it is able to connect to, you will see the the 3G,
> HSDPA, EDGE or GPRS icon turn off, at that point all data will go via
> WiFi, leaving SMS/MMS and voice calls going via the phone network.
>
> Adding the 'Power Control' widget to your homescreen might help you see
> what is currently enabled. I run custom firmware that has an enhanced
> version of the Power Control widget, so I may be used to extra features
> you won't have, in which case the SwitchPro widget from the market may
> be useful for you.


thanks
divoch


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Old 01-20-2011, 07:22 AM
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in 648053 20110119 093240 "divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>news:lPKdnYTo68JZnKjQnZ2dnUVZ8nWdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:SnUYo.3995$NG3.1378@newsfe22.ams2...
>>>
>>> "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ih0u8h$2oj$1@four.albasani.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message

>> SNIP
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nokia it is a little more difficult, but if you set it to "always
>>>>> ask" before using a connection...
>>>
>>> I have discovered there is a "notification drawer" that includes Wi-Fi,
>>> Bluetooth, GPS, 3G connection and Ring icons. I can turn any of them On
>>> and Off. The only question now is whether turning off 3G connection using
>>> this icon actually prevents ANY data over the RADIO network anywhere in
>>> the world or not.
>>> Above the "notification drawer" drawer there is a status bar that can
>>> show many things including signal strength etc; there are also also Data
>>> in or Data out or Data in/out indicators. I am not sure if they relate
>>> only to the radio network data ( and not to data over Wi-Fi) but if they
>>> do then I would have all the info to check whether I am on Wi-Fi only or
>>> not.
>>>
>>> divoch

>>
>> Network calls or texts on 3G or GSm don't count as data, but may be
>> chargeable in their own right.
>>
>> VOIP calls using the data segment will be chargeable as data.. On
>> Blackberry if you stop radio network you also disable calls and texts,
>> whereas on Nokia you only stop data (OTOH it is too easy to accidentally
>> re-initiate it).

>
>Question is what turning 3G Off on my Android phone does. If it turns off
>all the data and only data then it is fine, otherwise not, particularly
>because I am on 3 network. Alternatively, whether there is any other sure
>way turning data off (without downloading some special software)


Disable "Background data". Should then only use internet when you have a
wifi connection.

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Old 01-20-2011, 08:27 AM
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Whiskers;850855 Wrote:
> On 2011-01-16, divoch divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com wrote:-
>
> "Whiskers" catwheezel@operamail.com wrote in message
> news:slrnij6uu5.gls.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net...-
> On 2011-01-16, divoch divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com wrote:-
> How can I be sure that, when browsing web or using e-mail, that I am
> actually using Wi-Fi and not data over the radio network, after
> turning
> Wi-Fi on?
> I do not think it is relevant but I am on 3 using LG Optimus One
>
> thanks
> divoch-
>
>
> I disable 'mobile network' unless I want to use it deliberately.-
>
> Does that mean you cannot make or receive any calls, or does it apply
> only
> to data?
>
> divoch -
>
> It applies only to data.
>
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> -- Whiskers
> -- ~~~~~~~~~~



Its interesting mobile update .......




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Old 01-20-2011, 10:07 AM
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"Bob Martin" <bob.martin@excite.com> wrote in message
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> in 648053 20110119 093240 "divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>>"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>news:lPKdnYTo68JZnKjQnZ2dnUVZ8nWdnZ2d@bt.com.. .
>>>
>>> "divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:SnUYo.3995$NG3.1378@newsfe22.ams2...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Wade" <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ih0u8h$2oj$1@four.albasani.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> SNIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nokia it is a little more difficult, but if you set it to "always
>>>>>> ask" before using a connection...
>>>>
>>>> I have discovered there is a "notification drawer" that includes Wi-Fi,
>>>> Bluetooth, GPS, 3G connection and Ring icons. I can turn any of them On
>>>> and Off. The only question now is whether turning off 3G connection
>>>> using
>>>> this icon actually prevents ANY data over the RADIO network anywhere in
>>>> the world or not.
>>>> Above the "notification drawer" drawer there is a status bar that can
>>>> show many things including signal strength etc; there are also also
>>>> Data
>>>> in or Data out or Data in/out indicators. I am not sure if they relate
>>>> only to the radio network data ( and not to data over Wi-Fi) but if
>>>> they
>>>> do then I would have all the info to check whether I am on Wi-Fi only
>>>> or
>>>> not.
>>>>
>>>> divoch
>>>
>>> Network calls or texts on 3G or GSm don't count as data, but may be
>>> chargeable in their own right.
>>>
>>> VOIP calls using the data segment will be chargeable as data.. On
>>> Blackberry if you stop radio network you also disable calls and texts,
>>> whereas on Nokia you only stop data (OTOH it is too easy to accidentally
>>> re-initiate it).

>>
>>Question is what turning 3G Off on my Android phone does. If it turns off
>>all the data and only data then it is fine, otherwise not, particularly
>>because I am on 3 network. Alternatively, whether there is any other sure
>>way turning data off (without downloading some special software)

>
> Disable "Background data". Should then only use internet when you have a
> wifi connection.


I checked that. When turning it off a warning comes up that says, that it
saves battery live but some applications may still use background data.
Hopefully it will not, when connected to Wi-Fi, as you say.

divoch


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Old 01-21-2011, 10:43 AM
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