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Old 05-21-2007, 03:35 PM
Splooble
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Default This is very very misleading

Just been to Voda's site to order the £20 150 anytime and 500 text Pay
Monthly Simpack, and I came to the Ts&Cs.

The first clause of the Pay Monthly Airtime Ts&Cs read:

"Continues for the period of 12 months running from the date of the
connection of your mobile device or your upgrade or recommitment (as
appropriate) unless your price plan specifies a longer period, in which case
the longer period applies."

Now, I thought I was going to be signing into a ONE MONTH contract, NOT a
TWELVE MONTH contract, as implied by that first sentence.

Are these Ts&Cs just standard for all purchases from the online store or are
they pulling a fast one?

I'm pissed off with them already for this confusion to be honest, as I was
going to buy this Simpack today to prevent haviung to put another £10 on my
o2 Simcard...

Thanks all :-)



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Old 05-21-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

Splooble wrote:
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What you thought you were paying a one off fee of £20 for twelve months?



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Old 05-21-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

It happens that Splooble formulated :
> Just been to Voda's site to order the £20 150 anytime and 500 text Pay
> Monthly Simpack, and I came to the Ts&Cs.
>
> The first clause of the Pay Monthly Airtime Ts&Cs read:
>
> "Continues for the period of 12 months running from the date of the
> connection of your mobile device or your upgrade or recommitment (as
> appropriate) unless your price plan specifies a longer period, in which case
> the longer period applies."
>
> Now, I thought I was going to be signing into a ONE MONTH contract, NOT a
> TWELVE MONTH contract, as implied by that first sentence.
>
> Are these Ts&Cs just standard for all purchases from the online store or are
> they pulling a fast one?
>
> I'm pissed off with them already for this confusion to be honest, as I was
> going to buy this Simpack today to prevent haviung to put another £10 on my
> o2 Simcard...
>
> Thanks all :-)


Er, what confusion.?....it says "continues for the period of 12 months"
not "1 month".....or have you missed the important bit off?



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Old 05-21-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

<snip>

Well, considering the Simpack page states a 30 day contract, and then the
Ts&Cs state a 12 month contract, that is why I'm confused. Am I signing
onto a 30 day or 12 month contract?!?!?



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Old 05-21-2007, 07:23 PM
Splooble
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

No, paying £20 per month, for every month that I stay on the Simcard, but
having the option to cancel when having given notice, as long as it is after
the 30 day contract has ended.

The Ts&Cs threw me off course by making me think that it was still a 12
month contract I was signing into, even though the webpage states 30 days.



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Old 05-21-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

nomail@nonononono.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Just been to Voda's site to order the £20 150 anytime and 500 text Pay
> Monthly Simpack, and I came to the Ts&Cs.
>
> The first clause of the Pay Monthly Airtime Ts&Cs read:
>
> "Continues for the period of 12 months running from the date of the
> connection of your mobile device or your upgrade or recommitment (as
> appropriate) unless your price plan specifies a longer period, in which case
> the longer period applies."
>
> Now, I thought I was going to be signing into a ONE MONTH contract, NOT a
> TWELVE MONTH contract, as implied by that first sentence.


The first sentence says nothing about the length of the contract. It
simply says that you "pay monthly" which you do.
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

<snip>
> The first sentence says nothing about the length of the contract. It
> simply says that you "pay monthly" which you do.


So what is the "12 months" in place for?



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Old 05-21-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

Splooble laid this down on his screen :
> <snip>
>> The first sentence says nothing about the length of the contract. It
>> simply says that you "pay monthly" which you do.

>
> So what is the "12 months" in place for?


erm, it's instead of saying "a year", isn't it?

......unless I am COMPLETELY missing your point



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Old 05-21-2007, 10:10 PM
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nomail@nonononono.com declared for all the world to hear...
> <snip>
> > The first sentence says nothing about the length of the contract. It
> > simply says that you "pay monthly" which you do.

>
> So what is the "12 months" in place for?


Thats the length of the contract.

The first sentence you used in your OP was:
> £20 150 anytime and 500 text Pay Monthly Simpack


which makes no mention of any contract length.
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Old 05-21-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

> The first sentence you used in your OP was:
>> £20 150 anytime and 500 text Pay Monthly Simpack

>
> which makes no mention of any contract length.
> --
> Regards
> Jon


The webpage for their pay monthly Simpacks states a 30 day contract, yet the
Ts&Cs state a 12 month contract.



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Old 05-21-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

Splooble expressed precisely :
>> The first sentence you used in your OP was:
>>> £20 150 anytime and 500 text Pay Monthly Simpack

>>
>> which makes no mention of any contract length.
>> -- Regards
>> Jon

>
> The webpage for their pay monthly Simpacks states a 30 day contract, yet the
> Ts&Cs state a 12 month contract.


what about simplifying things for those trying to assist? - provide
links for the two incongruous statements



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Old 05-22-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

Splooble wrote:
>
> Just been to Voda's site to order the £20 150 anytime and 500 text Pay
> Monthly Simpack, and I came to the Ts&Cs.
>
> The first clause of the Pay Monthly Airtime Ts&Cs read:
>
> "Continues for the period of 12 months running from the date of the
> connection of your mobile device or your upgrade or recommitment (as
> appropriate) unless your price plan specifies a longer period, in which case
> the longer period applies."
>
> Now, I thought I was going to be signing into a ONE MONTH contract, NOT a
> TWELVE MONTH contract, as implied by that first sentence.
>
> Are these Ts&Cs just standard for all purchases from the online store or are
> they pulling a fast one?
>
> I'm pissed off with them already for this confusion to be honest, as I was
> going to buy this Simpack today to prevent haviung to put another £10 on my
> o2 Simcard...
>
> Thanks all :-)


You must be reading the wrong terms and conditions



Pay monthly SIM Pack

1. This offer is only available to UK residents aged 18 years or over.
The offer is only available for purchase in the Vodafone online store
and in Vodafone telesales.

2. The offer period is from 16th June 2005.

3. The offer only applies to the following standard price plans Anytime
100, Anytime 200, Anytime 350 and Evening and Weekend 1000 ("the
Eligible Price Plans").

4. This offer is subject to status, availability and connection to a 30
day minimum term airtime contract. (Not available on 12, 18 or 24 month
contracts). A disconnection notice can be accepted from the end of the
first month onwards.

5. The offer is only available when a handset is not taken as part of
the offer

6. It is up to the customer to ensure the handset used is compatible
with the Vodafone network. Vodafone does not take responsibility for any
costs incurred in unlocking a handset previously used on another
network.

7. Inclusive text messages with any offer are for standard rate texts of
up to 160 characters.

8. If the customer changes to a non-eligible price plan, the promotional
offers will cease to apply and a longer minimum term may apply to the
new price plan


Regards

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Old 05-22-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

> what about simplifying things for those trying to assist? - provide
> links for the two incongruous statements
>


The Simpack page stating a 30 day contract:

http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/index.cfm...cks.paymonthly

Once you add the pack to the basket, and enter your details, it takes you to
a T&C page withe two sets of T&Cs. The bottom set for use of the online
shop, the top are these, stating a 12 month period:

http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatc...ageID=PTC_0003

There is one checkbox to accept both.



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Old 05-22-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

Splooble presented the following explanation :
>> what about simplifying things for those trying to assist? - provide links
>> for the two incongruous statements
>>

>
> The Simpack page stating a 30 day contract:
>
> http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/index.cfm...cks.paymonthly
>
> Once you add the pack to the basket, and enter your details, it takes you to
> a T&C page withe two sets of T&Cs. The bottom set for use of the online
> shop, the top are these, stating a 12 month period:
>
> http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatc...ageID=PTC_0003
>
> There is one checkbox to accept both.


This is very misleading!



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Old 05-22-2007, 08:39 PM
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"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.b45c7d756718cabb.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> Splooble presented the following explanation :
>>> what about simplifying things for those trying to assist? - provide
>>> links for the two incongruous statements
>>>

>>
>> The Simpack page stating a 30 day contract:
>>
>> http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/index.cfm...cks.paymonthly
>>
>> Once you add the pack to the basket, and enter your details, it takes you
>> to a T&C page withe two sets of T&Cs. The bottom set for use of the
>> online shop, the top are these, stating a 12 month period:
>>
>> http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatc...ageID=PTC_0003
>>
>> There is one checkbox to accept both.

>
> This is very misleading!
>

Precisely!



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Old 05-22-2007, 08:46 PM
Jono
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Default Re: This is very very misleading

It happens that Splooble formulated :

>>
>> This is very misleading!
>>

> Precisely!


I notice that the Ts&Cs state the 12 month term starts when your mobile
phone is activated.....if you're not getting a phone (only sim) perhaps
this is important......hang on - it one of the definitions for a mobile
phone is a SIM!.

Print screen the page with the 30 day statement..?



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