I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and topped
it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not used
as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the sim,
but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does not
disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they can't
disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
"Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet...
> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and topped
> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not used
> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the sim,
> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does not
> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they
> can't disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
> Graham
>
Orange can cut off a sim after 6 months of disuse
Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
as little as 3 months is enough.
Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
Or go for a Virgin Sim, although like most networks they can cut a Sim off
after 6 months of disuse, i've never known them to do so.
Best of all is to get an Orange OVP Virgin by transfer.
There is No expiry on them, and a free IB every month.
"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet...
>> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and
>> topped
>> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
>> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not
>> used
>> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the
>> sim,
>> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does not
>> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
>> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they
>> can't disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
>> Graham
>>
> Orange can cut off a sim after 6 months of disuse
>
> Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
> as little as 3 months is enough.
> Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
>
> Or go for a Virgin Sim, although like most networks they can cut a Sim off
> after 6 months of disuse, i've never known them to do so.
>
> Best of all is to get an Orange OVP Virgin by transfer.
> There is No expiry on them, and a free IB every month.
>
> Steve Terry
Thanks for advise. Outrageous if any firm cut it off with paid for credit
still on phone. Close to theft, but suppose the terms and conditions cover
them in this morally questionable practice. My Orange PAYG Sim has been
active since 1997 and hardly ever used it, (probably no more than 5 calls in
all that time). I have another Orange PAYG Sim that does get regular use.
Perhaps their system is aware of that and doesn't cut the unused Sim for
that reason, but doubt they are that clever. Are they? Only reason I have
setup the Vodafone sim is coverage around here is poor on Orange. Its
unlikely I will make a call on this sim within 6 months minimum, so we will
see what happens. The only reason I topped it up with their minimum (£10)
was to try to keep it active. If they still cut it through non use, I will
never, ever use Vodafone again. I suppose I'm not going to put much money
there way, but ten quid is ten quid. If they don't cut it, who knows, I
might even use them for my main phone in time and I get through about £100 a
year on that. Not a high user, but surely worth my custom?
I'm new to this group, so could you clarify what Orange OVP and IB mean.
Thanks.
"Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
>> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet...
<snip>
> Only reason I have setup the Vodafone sim is coverage around here is poor
> on Orange. Its unlikely I will make a call on this sim within 6 months
> minimum, so we will see what happens. The only reason I topped it up with
> their minimum (£10) was to try to keep it active. If they still cut it
> through non use, I will never, ever use Vodafone again. I suppose I'm not
> going to put much money there way, but ten quid is ten quid. If they don't
> cut it, who knows, I might even use them for my main phone in time and I
> get through about £100 a year on that. Not a high user, but surely worth
> my custom?
> I'm new to this group, so could you clarify what Orange OVP and IB mean.
> Thanks.
> Graham.
I had a Voda PAYT they cut it off after 3 months and I lost about 15quid
of credit.
Voda simply pointed out their new T&Cs to me.
I won't use Voda PAYT again.
Also from next month Voda are charging 15p minimum call charge!
Orange OVP Virgin is now a defunct tariff that can now only be got by
transferring from a existing owner.
It's a never ending zero monthly rent contract, with free Itemised Billing
(I
mirroring Virgins charge rates.
Sometimes one comes up for sale on uk.adverts.telecom.mobile or eBay
I have one and sometimes don't use it for months, I can count on it never
ending.
The main use I have for it it's free Voicemail means I can use it to check
voicemail for free on my other Orange phones, and deposit free Voicemail
into other Orange phones also for free
"Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}" <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote in message
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> In message <_L-dnVj_AfRQh5PVRVnyjQA@metronet>, Graham wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for advise. Outrageous if any firm cut it off with paid for credit
>> still on phone. Close to theft, but suppose the terms and conditions
>> cover
>> them in this morally questionable practice.
>
> The reason for it is that otherwise the available number space would
> slowly
> be used up on SIMs that had been lost or discarded before their final
> balance had been used up. What they ought to do is give you the number
> back
> on a new SIM if you ask, assuming it hasn't already been reallocated.
>
Yes but for Voda to reduce it from the usual 6 months to 3 is simply greed
"Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet...
>>> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and
>>> topped
>>> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
>>> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not
>>> used
>>> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the
>>> sim,
>>> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does not
>>> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
>>> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they
>>> can't disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
>>> Graham
>>>
>> Orange can cut off a sim after 6 months of disuse
>>
>> Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
>> as little as 3 months is enough.
>> Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
>>
>> Or go for a Virgin Sim, although like most networks they can cut a Sim
>> off
>> after 6 months of disuse, i've never known them to do so.
>>
>> Best of all is to get an Orange OVP Virgin by transfer.
>> There is No expiry on them, and a free IB every month.
>>
>> Steve Terry
>
> Thanks for advise. Outrageous if any firm cut it off with paid for credit
> still on phone.
No it isn't, it is in the terms and conditions you agreed to.
>Close to theft,
No it isn't. Go and look at the definition of theft, then read the terms
and conditions
you agreed to!
>but suppose the terms and conditions cover them in this morally
>questionable practice.
It isn't a questionable practice just because you don't like it. You had a
choice to
buy something else but didn't, so you agreed to the terms and conditions.
It's not that difficult to understand.
>My Orange PAYG Sim has been active since 1997 and hardly ever used it,
>(probably no more than 5 calls in all that time). I have another Orange
>PAYG Sim that does get regular use. Perhaps their system is aware of that
>and doesn't cut the unused Sim for that reason, but doubt they are that
>clever. Are they?
They don't link PAYG accounts in such a way, each purchase is covered by the
terms
and conditions you choose not to recognise or agree with after purchase.
> Only reason I have setup the Vodafone sim is coverage around here is poor
> on Orange. Its unlikely I will make a call on this sim within 6 months
> minimum, so we will see what happens.
How pointless, you already know what will happen.
>The only reason I topped it up with their minimum (£10) was to try to keep
>it active. If they still cut it through non use, I will never, ever use
>Vodafone again.
Do you really think £10 means anything to them? Your tiny spend is nothing
compared to a lot of people. I doubt they would miss you.
>I suppose I'm not going to put much money there way, but ten quid is ten
>quid. If they don't cut it, who knows, I might even use them for my main
>phone in time and I get through about £100 a year on that. Not a high user,
>but surely worth my custom?
>
Not really because the accounts are not linked in such a way. They don't
care if
you have hundreds of phones, if you don't stick to the terms and conditions
then
they will take action.
> I'm new to this group, so could you clarify what Orange OVP and IB mean.
> Thanks.
>
I take it you have a working web browser and can use sites such as Google?
"Rob" <rob1@nonet.net> wrote in message
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> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:_L-dnVj_AfRQh5PVRVnyjQA@metronet...
>> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
>> news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
>>> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet...
<snip>
>> Thanks for advise. Outrageous if any firm cut it off with paid for credit
>> still on phone.
>
> No it isn't, it is in the terms and conditions you agreed to.
>
>>Close to theft,
>
> No it isn't. Go and look at the definition of theft, then read the terms
> and conditions
> you agreed to!
>
Voda counted on the fact that most didn't read the new T&Cs they've
created to rip off their customers.
A calculated means to take money immorally, is close to theft
"Rob" <rob1@nonet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:_L-dnVj_AfRQh5PVRVnyjQA@metronet...
>>
>> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
>> news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>
>>> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet...
>>>> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and
>>>> topped
>>>> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
>>>> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not
>>>> used
>>>> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the
>>>> sim,
>>>> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does
>>>> not
>>>> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
>>>> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they
>>>> can't disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>> Orange can cut off a sim after 6 months of disuse
>>>
>>> Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
>>> as little as 3 months is enough.
>>> Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
>>>
>>> Or go for a Virgin Sim, although like most networks they can cut a Sim
>>> off
>>> after 6 months of disuse, i've never known them to do so.
>>>
>>> Best of all is to get an Orange OVP Virgin by transfer.
>>> There is No expiry on them, and a free IB every month.
>>>
>>> Steve Terry
>>
>> Thanks for advise. Outrageous if any firm cut it off with paid for credit
>> still on phone.
>
> No it isn't, it is in the terms and conditions you agreed to.
>
>>Close to theft,
>
> No it isn't. Go and look at the definition of theft, then read the terms
> and conditions
> you agreed to!
>
>>but suppose the terms and conditions cover them in this morally
>>questionable practice.
>
> It isn't a questionable practice just because you don't like it. You had
> a choice to
> buy something else but didn't, so you agreed to the terms and conditions.
> It's not that difficult to understand.
>
>>My Orange PAYG Sim has been active since 1997 and hardly ever used it,
>>(probably no more than 5 calls in all that time). I have another Orange
>>PAYG Sim that does get regular use. Perhaps their system is aware of that
>>and doesn't cut the unused Sim for that reason, but doubt they are that
>>clever. Are they?
>
> They don't link PAYG accounts in such a way, each purchase is covered by
> the terms
> and conditions you choose not to recognise or agree with after purchase.
>
>> Only reason I have setup the Vodafone sim is coverage around here is poor
>> on Orange. Its unlikely I will make a call on this sim within 6 months
>> minimum, so we will see what happens.
>
> How pointless, you already know what will happen.
>
>>The only reason I topped it up with their minimum (£10) was to try to keep
>>it active. If they still cut it through non use, I will never, ever use
>>Vodafone again.
>
> Do you really think £10 means anything to them? Your tiny spend is
> nothing
> compared to a lot of people. I doubt they would miss you.
>
>>I suppose I'm not going to put much money there way, but ten quid is ten
>>quid. If they don't cut it, who knows, I might even use them for my main
>>phone in time and I get through about £100 a year on that. Not a high
>>user, but surely worth my custom?
>>
>
> Not really because the accounts are not linked in such a way. They don't
> care if
> you have hundreds of phones, if you don't stick to the terms and
> conditions then
> they will take action.
>
>> I'm new to this group, so could you clarify what Orange OVP and IB mean.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> I take it you have a working web browser and can use sites such as Google?
I hate your attitude fella. Sound like a right jobsworth to me. Why stick up
for a giant firm? Who reads the Terms beyond the first couple of lines at
most? If you do, show me the line that shows me they will steel my credit if
I don't use the phone. I bet its not in there clearly written without
ambiguity. Don't lecture to me about what I SHOULD HAVE READ. Who do you
think you are sticking up for this highly dubious practice if it proves to
be true. So they write in the T&C's that they can murder my children if I
don't make a call within a few months. Still illegal aint it. Theft is
illegal as its murder. Putting a caveat in the terms does not make it ok to
break the law. This needs to be taken to court to get a precident set. Its
simply wrong to close the account. At the very least they could inform me if
a call is not made what they will do. They have all my details from the
registration.
"Rob" <rob1@nonet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:_L-dnVj_AfRQh5PVRVnyjQA@metronet...
<SNIP>
>> Thanks for advise. Outrageous if any firm cut it off with paid for credit
>> still on phone.
>
> No it isn't, it is in the terms and conditions you agreed to.
I see the Tiscali idiot has morphed again. Nice to see that Tiscali have
finally got shut of him off though.
In article <lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet>, graham@nospam.com says...
> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and topped
> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not used
> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the sim,
> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does not
> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they can't
> disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
Vodafone (like Orange) reserve the right to dosconnect after a period of
time with no activity. On Orange the period is 180 days, on Vodafone it
either 90 or 180 days.
It's not always enforced though, but if you do go inactive for that
period you risk being cut off.
--
Regards
Jon
"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.22785602579c66b998977a@nntp.aioe.org...
In article <lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet>, graham@nospam.com says...
> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and topped
> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not used
> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the sim,
> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does not
> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they
> can't
> disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
Vodafone (like Orange) reserve the right to dosconnect after a period of
time with no activity. On Orange the period is 180 days, on Vodafone it
either 90 or 180 days.
It's not always enforced though, but if you do go inactive for that
period you risk being cut off.
--
Regards
Jon
I believe after 90 days of no calls/texts etc your sim goes into quarantine.
When in quarantine you then have a further 90 days before the number will be
completely disconnected.
Also vodafone are launching a flat-rate 15p/min tariff on 1st May i believe
which is much better than their current offerings.
Note that the orange/vodafone network infrastructure's are merging sometime
this year which should solve lots of coverage issues.
"S" <s@s.com> wrote in message
news:480e4919$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> "Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22785602579c66b998977a@nntp.aioe.org...
> In article <lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet>,
> graham@nospam.com says...
<snip>
> Note that the orange/vodafone network infrastructure's are merging
> sometime this year which should solve lots of coverage issues.
>
AFAIK that's only for mobile Broadband coverage,
and 3 are sharing with T Mobile
"Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet...
> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and topped
> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not used
> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the sim,
> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does not
> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they
> can't disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
>
> Graham
>
It is very misleading. I bought one yesterday. In the Getting Started book
(on page 7) it says
"Just to let you know. If you don't make a chargeable call or top up your
mobile for a full nine months, it will be disconnected"
but in the "Small Print" near the back it mentions 180 days.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:02:53 +0100, "Graham" <graham@nospam.com>
wrote:
>
>"Rob" <rob1@nonet.net> wrote in message
>news:fulaqu$ed2$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:_L-dnVj_AfRQh5PVRVnyjQA@metronet...
>>>
>>> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:lOadnf_xl-iujJPVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@metronet...
>>>>> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and
>>>>> topped
>>>>> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
>>>>> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not
>>>>> used
>>>>> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the
>>>>> sim,
>>>>> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does
>>>>> not
>>>>> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
>>>>> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they
>>>>> can't disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
>>>>> Graham
>>>>>
>>>> Orange can cut off a sim after 6 months of disuse
>>>>
>>>> Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
>>>> as little as 3 months is enough.
>>>> Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
>>>>
>>>> Or go for a Virgin Sim, although like most networks they can cut a Sim
>>>> off
>>>> after 6 months of disuse, i've never known them to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Best of all is to get an Orange OVP Virgin by transfer.
>>>> There is No expiry on them, and a free IB every month.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Terry
>>>
>>> Thanks for advise. Outrageous if any firm cut it off with paid for credit
>>> still on phone.
>>
>> No it isn't, it is in the terms and conditions you agreed to.
>>
>>>Close to theft,
>>
>> No it isn't. Go and look at the definition of theft, then read the terms
>> and conditions
>> you agreed to!
>>
>>>but suppose the terms and conditions cover them in this morally
>>>questionable practice.
>>
>> It isn't a questionable practice just because you don't like it. You had
>> a choice to
>> buy something else but didn't, so you agreed to the terms and conditions.
>> It's not that difficult to understand.
>>
>>>My Orange PAYG Sim has been active since 1997 and hardly ever used it,
>>>(probably no more than 5 calls in all that time). I have another Orange
>>>PAYG Sim that does get regular use. Perhaps their system is aware of that
>>>and doesn't cut the unused Sim for that reason, but doubt they are that
>>>clever. Are they?
>>
>> They don't link PAYG accounts in such a way, each purchase is covered by
>> the terms
>> and conditions you choose not to recognise or agree with after purchase.
>>
>>> Only reason I have setup the Vodafone sim is coverage around here is poor
>>> on Orange. Its unlikely I will make a call on this sim within 6 months
>>> minimum, so we will see what happens.
>>
>> How pointless, you already know what will happen.
>>
>>>The only reason I topped it up with their minimum (£10) was to try to keep
>>>it active. If they still cut it through non use, I will never, ever use
>>>Vodafone again.
>>
>> Do you really think £10 means anything to them? Your tiny spend is
>> nothing
>> compared to a lot of people. I doubt they would miss you.
>>
>>>I suppose I'm not going to put much money there way, but ten quid is ten
>>>quid. If they don't cut it, who knows, I might even use them for my main
>>>phone in time and I get through about £100 a year on that. Not a high
>>>user, but surely worth my custom?
>>>
>>
>> Not really because the accounts are not linked in such a way. They don't
>> care if
>> you have hundreds of phones, if you don't stick to the terms and
>> conditions then
>> they will take action.
>>
>>> I'm new to this group, so could you clarify what Orange OVP and IB mean.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> I take it you have a working web browser and can use sites such as Google?
>
>I hate your attitude fella. Sound like a right jobsworth to me. Why stick up
>for a giant firm? Who reads the Terms beyond the first couple of lines at
>most? If you do, show me the line that shows me they will steel my credit if
>I don't use the phone. I bet its not in there clearly written without
>ambiguity. Don't lecture to me about what I SHOULD HAVE READ. Who do you
>think you are sticking up for this highly dubious practice if it proves to
>be true. So they write in the T&C's that they can murder my children if I
>don't make a call within a few months. Still illegal aint it. Theft is
>illegal as its murder. Putting a caveat in the terms does not make it ok to
>break the law. This needs to be taken to court to get a precident set. Its
>simply wrong to close the account. At the very least they could inform me if
>a call is not made what they will do. They have all my details from the
>registration.
>
>Graham
I think he does have a point about it being in the terms and
conditions, however I agree with everyone else too that it is
misleading, and I don't believe this is a good practice by Vodafone or
other networks.
I think Vodafone customer service is magnificent, no one else comes
close, however their prices are expensive and it looks like some of
their practises like this disconnection business after only a few
months non-use is a bit ridiculous.
I'd like to stay with Vodafone but switching from contract to PAYG/T,
however may go to another network due to the costs, and also slightly
because of this as well, I wouldn't ever want to be disconnected or
lose my number.
"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
> Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
> as little as 3 months is enough.
> Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
Where *is* it you get this 3 month cut off from?
I'm sure we've had this conversation before (or maybe with someone
else on here), the Vodafone T&C's do NOT state they cut you off after
3 months. It's 6 months (or 180 days to be pedantic).
"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:ful8k9$9i9$1@news.albasani.net...
> > The reason for it is that otherwise the available number space
would
> > slowly
> > be used up on SIMs that had been lost or discarded before their
final
> > balance had been used up. What they ought to do is give you the
number
> > back
> > on a new SIM if you ask, assuming it hasn't already been
reallocated.
> >
> Yes but for Voda to reduce it from the usual 6 months to 3 is simply
greed
Good job they didn't then (or if they did they restored it to 6
months).
"John" <inGod@wetrust.com> wrote in message
news:ht2v04pgq420uktb952vg2d2g20f3everj@4ax.com...
> I think he does have a point about it being in the terms and
> conditions, however I agree with everyone else too that it is
> misleading, and I don't believe this is a good practice by Vodafone
or
> other networks.
>
> I think Vodafone customer service is magnificent, no one else comes
> close, however their prices are expensive and it looks like some of
> their practises like this disconnection business after only a few
> months non-use is a bit ridiculous.
>
> I'd like to stay with Vodafone but switching from contract to
PAYG/T,
> however may go to another network due to the costs, and also
slightly
> because of this as well, I wouldn't ever want to be disconnected or
> lose my number.
Before you switch because of the cut-off issue I'd suggest you read
their actual T&C's rather than rely on what people claim about them.
Link below.
Vodafone PAYG is expensive peak but pretty good value off peak (eg an
hour for 30p to any network - you need to sign up to stop the clock
but it's free).
"Andy Pandy" <spam8times@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:67au07F2o2a17U1@mid.individual.net...
> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
>> Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
>> as little as 3 months is enough.
>> Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
>
> Where *is* it you get this 3 month cut off from?
>
> I'm sure we've had this conversation before (or maybe with someone
> else on here), the Vodafone T&C's do NOT state they cut you off after
> 3 months. It's 6 months (or 180 days to be pedantic).
>
> http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatc...ageID=PTC_0006
> Andy
>
They did it to me when I first went on to Smartstep from Allcalls.
Looks like they have gone back to 6 months.
On 24 Apr, 09:17, "Andy Pandy" <spam8ti...@wonderful.spam.invalid>
wrote:
> "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> > Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
> > as little as 3 months is enough.
> > Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
>
> Where *is* it you get this 3 month cut off from?
>
> I'm sure we've had this conversation before (or maybe with someone
> else on here), the Vodafone T&C's do NOT state they cut you off after
> 3 months. It's 6 months (or 180 days to be pedantic).
>
> http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatc.../vodafone/wrp?...
>
> --
> Andy
Who cares what it says?
It's what they actually do that counts
People are asking advice about which SIM to have as a spare with low
use, and I'd put Vodafone 6th out of 6 of the main networks plus
Virgin
On other networks, sufficient activity to keep the SIM valid can be
just an incoming call; maybe even a text is enough, but I haven't
checked that.
Vodafone don't tolerate that and expect chargeable events. And they
may disconnect it even if there is.
They disconnected mine, and after the first CS person was blunt and
actually abusive and hung up the phone, I called back and succeeded in
getting a manager to switch the SIM on again, after she agreed I'd
used the phone. But she couldn't clarify whether I'd be back on the
old tariff which no longer existed (off-peak calls 5p/min had gone to
10p); nobody else could answer this on 2 subsequent calls. At this
point you must top up fairly soon (maybe 30, maybe 90 days) or they
will dump it again. Well, that's what they say but mine was gone again
in less than 3 weeks. I managed to get it switched on again, but on
the third wrongful disconnection I gave up.
For people who want the SIM to stay alive longest with low activity,
I'd suggest 3 or Virgin. But most will stay alive with just incoming
calls, like 2 Orange I have from ex-contract which have never been
topped up and are over 3 years old. One was lost and the number
transferred to a new SIM which then got disconnected after about 4
months, but was switched on again within 5 minutes when I rang up to
enquire about it
On 24 Apr, 09:17, "Andy Pandy" <spam8ti...@wonderful.spam.invalid>
wrote:
> "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ful4d4$vsl$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> > Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
> > as little as 3 months is enough.
> > Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
>
> Where *is* it you get this 3 month cut off from?
>
> I'm sure we've had this conversation before (or maybe with someone
> else on here), the Vodafone T&C's do NOT state they cut you off after
> 3 months. It's 6 months (or 180 days to be pedantic).
>
> http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatc.../vodafone/wrp?...
>
> --
> Andy
Who cares what it says?
It's what they actually do that counts
People are asking advice about which SIM to have as a spare with low
use, and I'd put Vodafone 6th out of 6 of the main networks plus
Virgin
On other networks, sufficient activity to keep the SIM valid can be
just an incoming call; maybe even a text is enough, but I haven't
checked that.
Vodafone don't tolerate that and expect chargeable events. And they
may disconnect it even if there is.
They disconnected mine, and after the first CS person was blunt and
actually abusive and hung up the phone, I called back and succeeded in
getting a manager to switch the SIM on again, after she agreed I'd
used the phone. But she couldn't clarify whether I'd be back on the
old tariff which no longer existed (off-peak calls 5p/min had gone to
10p); nobody else could answer this on 2 subsequent calls. At this
point you must top up fairly soon (maybe 30, maybe 90 days) or they
will dump it again. Well, that's what they say but mine was gone again
in less than 3 weeks. I managed to get it switched on again, but on
the third wrongful disconnection I gave up.
For people who want the SIM to stay alive longest with low activity,
I'd suggest 3 or Virgin. But most will stay alive with just incoming
calls, like 2 Orange I have from ex-contract which have never been
topped up and are over 3 years old. One was lost and the number
transferred to a new SIM which then got disconnected after about 4
months, but was switched on again within 5 minutes when I rang up to
enquire about it
"andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:a81942f4-acb4-4512-a5af-d86c0bd8a2c9@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> For people who want the SIM to stay alive longest with low activity,
> I'd suggest 3 or Virgin. But most will stay alive with just incoming
> calls, like 2 Orange I have from ex-contract which have never been
> topped up and are over 3 years old. One was lost and the number
> transferred to a new SIM which then got disconnected after about 4
> months, but was switched on again within 5 minutes when I rang up to
> enquire about it
Just tried out an old Vodafone PAYG that has been sitting around for a heck
of a lot longer than three months. Worked no problem, so they certainly
arent disconnecting everyone at the three month point. Six months sounds
more plausible, although I would have thought this phone must have been
close to or even over that since last used.
"Iain-M" <newsgroups@gabhsann.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g0bp0h$9go$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>
> "andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:a81942f4-acb4-4512-a5af-d86c0bd8a2c9@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> For people who want the SIM to stay alive longest with low activity,
>> I'd suggest 3 or Virgin. But most will stay alive with just incoming
>> calls, like 2 Orange I have from ex-contract which have never been
>> topped up and are over 3 years old. One was lost and the number
>> transferred to a new SIM which then got disconnected after about 4
>> months, but was switched on again within 5 minutes when I rang up to
>> enquire about it
>
> Just tried out an old Vodafone PAYG that has been sitting around for a
> heck of a lot longer than three months.
The operable word there is "old"
If it's Pre Smartstep, then that's when Voda changed their T&Cs
I had an old Allcalls, and if i could find it it's probably still connected.
In news:7e009589-191a-4ce1-ac1e-53ca8cb10e9d@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,
andy <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> typed, for some strange, unexplained
reason:
[snip]
: People are asking advice about which SIM to have as a spare with low
: use, and I'd put Vodafone 6th out of 6 of the main networks plus
: Virgin
I've got a Virgin SIM I haven't used for over a year. I keep it in the car
glovebox as an emergency phone if I forget mine when I go out.
"Iain-M" <newsgroups@gabhsann.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g0bp0h$9go$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> > For people who want the SIM to stay alive longest with low
activity,
> > I'd suggest 3 or Virgin. But most will stay alive with just
incoming
> > calls, like 2 Orange I have from ex-contract which have never been
> > topped up and are over 3 years old. One was lost and the number
> > transferred to a new SIM which then got disconnected after about 4
> > months, but was switched on again within 5 minutes when I rang up
to
> > enquire about it
>
> Just tried out an old Vodafone PAYG that has been sitting around for
a heck
> of a lot longer than three months. Worked no problem, so they
certainly
> arent disconnecting everyone at the three month point. Six months
sounds
> more plausible, although I would have thought this phone must have
been
> close to or even over that since last used.
Not even at 6 months!!
I've just tried a SIM that came with a phone I bought my wife for
Christmas 2006.
The SIM was put into her old phone and forgotten about, it has never
had a top up, only the £2 credit it came with. I've tried to remember
to make the occasional call from it to keep it alive.
Just checked now, the last outgoing call/text was on 6 November.
Credit was £1.60. Made a call, it worked, credit now £1.50.
So even after about 190 days, they've not cut it off !
"andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:7e009589-191a-4ce1-ac1e-53ca8cb10e9d@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > > Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
> > > as little as 3 months is enough.
> > > Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
> >
> > Where *is* it you get this 3 month cut off from?
> >
> > I'm sure we've had this conversation before (or maybe with someone
> > else on here), the Vodafone T&C's do NOT state they cut you off
after
> > 3 months. It's 6 months (or 180 days to be pedantic).
> >
> > http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispatc.../vodafone/wrp?...
>
> Who cares what it says?
>
> It's what they actually do that counts
Yes - they've given me 190 days, see my other post.
> People are asking advice about which SIM to have as a spare with low
> use, and I'd put Vodafone 6th out of 6 of the main networks plus
> Virgin
>
> On other networks, sufficient activity to keep the SIM valid can be
> just an incoming call; maybe even a text is enough, but I haven't
> checked that.
>
> Vodafone don't tolerate that and expect chargeable events. And they
> may disconnect it even if there is.
>
> They disconnected mine, and after the first CS person was blunt and
> actually abusive and hung up the phone, I called back and succeeded
in
> getting a manager to switch the SIM on again, after she agreed I'd
> used the phone.
So they screwed up - they agree that they shouldn't have cut you off.
> But she couldn't clarify whether I'd be back on the
> old tariff which no longer existed (off-peak calls 5p/min had gone
to
> 10p);
Yup - but the 10p is now to any network, whereas the 5p was only
landlines/Vodafones, it was something like 35p x-net.
I still prefer the old tariff and my wife's main SIM is on that (15p
for an hour off-peak - who can beat that?)
"Iain" <no-one@hairydog.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1211139874.1904.0@proxy01.news.clara.net...
> > Voda PAYT won't be taking any more of my money
>
> I can't see why anyone would choose Voda PAYT instead of Asda.
Anyone who's a mainly off-peak user, or a roaming user.
20 min off-peak call to any network - 30p.
10 min roaming call off-peak to any UK landline/mobile - £1.75.
Just to give the Vodafone slant on this to clear up about
disconnections for pay as you talk.
With a pay as you talk number, excluding those that are part of a
Vodafone family group, if you don't top up your number or make a
chargeable call for 180 consecutive days, your number will be placed
into quarantine for 90 days. In the 90 days you'd need to top up by
at least £15.00 which would then automatically re activate your number
again.
If after 180 consecutive days of none use and then 90 consecutive days
of quarantine, you don't take any action, your number would be
disconnected. This is to make way for new numbers and so that after
so many months the number can be recycled for a new user. Any credit
balance would be forfeited.
With customers that are part of a family group, due to how family
works and that you don't actually need to top up or use credit on the
number, you wouldn't be subject to disconnection rules.
I hope this clears it up for you, this info is part of the pay as you
talk terms. The 90 day quarantine period is there to give you the
chance to take action by way of topping up to reactivate the number
again.
<ian.jackson@vodafone.com> wrote in message
news:7ecbed93-b3ec-47de-9302-dbb5faa28d08@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Hi,
Just to give the Vodafone slant on this to clear up about
disconnections for pay as you talk.
With a pay as you talk number, excluding those that are part of a
Vodafone family group, if you don't top up your number or make a
chargeable call for 180 consecutive days, your number will be placed
into quarantine for 90 days. In the 90 days you'd need to top up by
at least £15.00 which would then automatically re activate your number
again.
If after 180 consecutive days of none use and then 90 consecutive days
of quarantine, you don't take any action, your number would be
disconnected. This is to make way for new numbers and so that after
so many months the number can be recycled for a new user. Any credit
balance would be forfeited.
With customers that are part of a family group, due to how family
works and that you don't actually need to top up or use credit on the
number, you wouldn't be subject to disconnection rules.
I hope this clears it up for you, this info is part of the pay as you
talk terms. The 90 day quarantine period is there to give you the
chance to take action by way of topping up to reactivate the number
again.
<ian.jackson@vodafone.com> wrote in message
news:7ecbed93-b3ec-47de-9302-dbb5faa28d08@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>Hi,
>Just to give the Vodafone slant on this to clear up about
>disconnections for pay as you talk.
>With a pay as you talk number, excluding those that are part of a
>Vodafone family group, if you don't top up your number or make a
>chargeable call for 180 consecutive days, your number will be placed
>into quarantine for 90 days. In the 90 days you'd need to top up by
>at least £15.00 which would then automatically re activate your number
>again.
>
>If after 180 consecutive days of none use and then 90 consecutive days
>of quarantine, you don't take any action, your number would be
>disconnected.
>
You mean stolen
>
> This is to make way for new numbers and so that after
>so many months the number can be recycled for a new user.
>
As if you need new numbers
>
> Any credit balance would be forfeited.
>
> As i said stolen
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
Thanks for proving you don't
>
>Hopefullyuseful
>Vodafone UK
>
Yes very useful in confirming with an attitude and policy like that
to never use Voda PAYT ever again
Will Vodafone PAYG expire? 
