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Old 10-01-2005, 09:59 PM
peter
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Default Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

Since the children are out to play again, I thought I'd provide them
with some space to play with again so here goes: (fill in as
appropriate)


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Old 10-01-2005, 10:07 PM
www.crystal-power.co.uk
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

I am new here i thought it was Stefan who caused most of the trouble
round here along with Ivor .


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Old 10-02-2005, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

Aren't you Stefan or is it 81.110.218.193???


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Old 10-02-2005, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

Tone wrote:
> Turtill however is very sneaky. On most Newsreader Software there is a
> feature called No-Archive. By using this feature it will prevent your
> post being archived by Google or the like, and in respect of Google
> they will delete the post after 5 days if the X-No Archive feature is
> selected.


From: Tone <tone@spamcop.net>
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.voip
Subject: Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 09:22:27 +0100
Lines: 134
Message-ID: <3j5vj155sfqo9gdfsql33ie51prhq8sh1p@4ax.com>
X-No-Archive: yes

Hmmm.

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Old 10-02-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:03:13 +0100, Roger <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 03:27:21 +0100, turtill@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On 1 Oct 2005 17:30:14 -0700, "Julius" <julius@brampton.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Aren't you Stefan or is it 81.110.218.193???

>>
>>There are 2 posters on this ng who are known to use many names and
>>ISP's who are known to me. Dexter is one and I haven't seen him post
>>other than as Dexter recently. The other one is anthony bournes (Tone)
>>and I have seen him posting here using many different ID's and ISP's.
>>I don't think the original Stefan has ever posted here but his name
>>has been lifted from google and re-used by someone else. Stefan used
>>AOL whereas Tone used to use tiscali until I had his account closed
>>for posting in my name and he has reverted to NTL which is not hidden

>
>
>
>HO HO HO Turtill trying to put the blame on someone else once again.
>A simple perusal back in time will show it is Turtill who has had many
>accounts closed and many newservers have dumped him for his abuse.
>
>What about you telling people you had sex with the 13 and 14 year olds
>Pete ?.
>
>What about the ads you put in the Gay section seeking men and the
>other ads you put in the personals section seeking "nursing mothers"
>wasnt it?. What about all the 'dogging' you do around Ipswich Pete.
>
>I see your post was made at 03.27 in the morning. Cant sleep Pete or
>you been out kerb crawling again ?
>
>Youve been rumbled, you pervert. There is no place for scum like you
>to hide
>
>>as he is trying to put the blame on Stefan just as he did elsewhere by
>>using Chris P Bacons name and many others too. He will post in
>>different styles to throw people off the scent and I have seen him
>>post here in Dexters style too but as Brown.
>>pete

>
>Oh No Pete. You are easily identified as Bill Brown and Grant.
>When are you going to dig up some new sockpuppets mate?
>or are you just going to continue posting as the 3 or 4 you are using
>now ?
>Readers here should know that one of Turtill tricks is to attack
>himself with another os his ID's just to start a row and bring others
>in on it.

It can be amusing to read all this but personally I don't see the need
for any personal comments from anyone. I would prefer to stick to the
techno stuff myself.
This is a fairly new newsgroup. Perhaps, if there was more to post
about, people wouldn't be hanging round on street corners making
personal comments (metaphorically speaking).
You won't get any personal comments from me because I would consider
it to be rude and, more importantly, possible insensitive - but then
we all have differing outlooks on things and I suppose it could be
argued that it keeps the newsgroup ticking whilst waiting for some
more relevant postings - even so I'd sooner do without it!
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.

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Old 10-02-2005, 11:50 AM
Paul Cupis
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

Tone wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:23:12 +0100, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>Tone wrote:
>>>Turtill however is very sneaky. On most Newsreader Software there is a
>>>feature called No-Archive. By using this feature it will prevent your
>>>post being archived by Google or the like, and in respect of Google
>>>they will delete the post after 5 days if the X-No Archive feature is
>>>selected.

>>
>>From: Tone <tone@spamcop.net>
>>Newsgroups: uk.telecom.voip
>>Subject: Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!
>>Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 09:22:27 +0100
>>Lines: 134
>>Message-ID: <3j5vj155sfqo9gdfsql33ie51prhq8sh1p@4ax.com>
>>X-No-Archive: yes
>>
>>Hmmm.

>
> And your point is ??
> Turtill uses the X-No archive feature by posting abuse and lies and
> then after 5 days he holds his hands up and says "It wasnt me who
> posted that"
>
> I dont.


My point is that you do use the X-No-Archive feature as well, as shown
by the headers in my previous post.

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Old 10-02-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

Tone wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 13:24:52 +0100, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>Nobody cares. You, turtill and anyone else on this group will be judged
>>based on who they use the group, what they post etc. You are digging
>>yourself a hole.

>
> Nobody cares untill he start on them, as he eventually will.


Fine. Until that point, please keep to the topic for this group, that
being VoIP in the UK.

Thank you.

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Old 10-02-2005, 04:24 PM
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turtill@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:23:12 +0100, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>Tone wrote:
>>>Turtill however is very sneaky. On most Newsreader Software there is a
>>>feature called No-Archive. By using this feature it will prevent your
>>>post being archived by Google or the like, and in respect of Google
>>>they will delete the post after 5 days if the X-No Archive feature is
>>>selected.

>>
>>From: Tone <tone@spamcop.net>
>>Newsgroups: uk.telecom.voip
>>Subject: Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!
>>Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 09:22:27 +0100
>>Lines: 134
>>Message-ID: <3j5vj155sfqo9gdfsql33ie51prhq8sh1p@4ax.com>
>>X-No-Archive: yes
>>
>>Hmmm.

>
> I not only use No Archive but I also remove my posts soon after they
> are made because Anthony Bournes traces where I am posting and stalks
> me. It doesn't bother me but it ruins the groups he attacks me in if
> they are not able to see what he is doing such as the cancer ng which
> he nearly closed down. He also posts in my name and has lost his
> tiscali BB connection because it and now uses NTL and various dial
> ups.


Well good for you. Why not use thie group to talk about VoIP in the UK
instead of attacking another poster or defending against their posts? If
you want an off topic conversation, do it elsewhere.

If you are posting something here which is on-topic, I think that you
would want it archived for future users/queries.

If you are posting something which is off-topic (i.e. you don't want it
archived), then just don't post it.

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Old 10-02-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

Tone wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:24:52 +0100, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>Well good for you. Why not use thie group to talk about VoIP in the UK
>>instead of attacking another poster or defending against their posts? If
>>you want an off topic conversation, do it elsewhere.
>>
>>If you are posting something here which is on-topic, I think that you
>>would want it archived for future users/queries.
>>
>>If you are posting something which is off-topic (i.e. you don't want it
>>archived), then just don't post it.

>
> He's running scared as he makes so many slip ups and forgets which ID
> he is using so uses the X-No archive all the time, now he knows the
> Police have taken an interest in him


We don't care.

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Old 10-02-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!

Tone wrote:
> More lies from Turtill. I dont stalk anyone.


We don't care.

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Old 10-02-2005, 05:29 PM
peter
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Paul Cupis wrote:
> turtill@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:23:12 +0100, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >>Tone wrote:
> >>>Turtill however is very sneaky. On most Newsreader Software there is a
> >>>feature called No-Archive. By using this feature it will prevent your
> >>>post being archived by Google or the like, and in respect of Google
> >>>they will delete the post after 5 days if the X-No Archive feature is
> >>>selected.
> >>
> >>From: Tone <tone@spamcop.net>
> >>Newsgroups: uk.telecom.voip
> >>Subject: Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!!
> >>Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 09:22:27 +0100
> >>Lines: 134
> >>Message-ID: <3j5vj155sfqo9gdfsql33ie51prhq8sh1p@4ax.com>
> >>X-No-Archive: yes
> >>
> >>Hmmm.

> >
> > I not only use No Archive but I also remove my posts soon after they
> > are made because Anthony Bournes traces where I am posting and stalks
> > me. It doesn't bother me but it ruins the groups he attacks me in if
> > they are not able to see what he is doing such as the cancer ng which
> > he nearly closed down. He also posts in my name and has lost his
> > tiscali BB connection because it and now uses NTL and various dial
> > ups.

>
> Well good for you. Why not use thie group to talk about VoIP in the UK
> instead of attacking another poster or defending against their posts? If
> you want an off topic conversation, do it elsewhere.
>
> If you are posting something here which is on-topic, I think that you
> would want it archived for future users/queries.
>
> If you are posting something which is off-topic (i.e. you don't want it
> archived), then just don't post it.


Acutally, you make an interesting point here : all the trolls seem to
have archive-phobia, I haven't noticed that before. The objective is
obvious : cause maximum disruption and then remove the evidence.

Anyway, I admire your stamina in trying to reason with these people. I
read a good write up on trolls at
http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm and am sticking to that
prescription - apart from perhaps offering a content-free and VoIP-free
thread for the kids now and then, since they seem to find it
irresistible, and it perhaps distracts them from their disruptive
activities in the normal threads.


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Old 10-02-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Achtung: SIPGATE Rocks !!!! [yes, indeed it does]

peter wrote:

> Acutally, you make an interesting point here : all the trolls seem to
> have archive-phobia, I haven't noticed that before.


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