"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
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> Andrew W Young pretended :
>>>"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:4bbda3eb$0$19701$bed64819@gradwell.net.. .
>>>> Andrew W Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP
>>>>> handset.
>>>>>
>>>>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>>>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>>>> handset?
>>>>
>>>> I don't think anyone (yet) has a simple black box that plugs into your
>>>> PSTN socket and ethernet switch and presents the PSTN line to a VOIP
>>>> handset.
>>>
>>>! read the thread FGS, I have had one since 2008!
>>>
>>>It actualy is black, ~13x10cm, with three wires you plug in (phone,
>>>internet
>>>and power).
>>
>> Which product? The Siemens IP 785 ?
>>
>> I have been reading the manual for this product and am not sure how it
>> passes on PSTN calls to another VOIP handset on the LAN.
>
> It can't.
>
> The SPA3000/3102, in conjunction with an SPA9000 does what you're after,
> however, not in one unit. Other than that, it's PBX time (one unit).
I thought the idea was that Siemens Gigaset would have several handsets each
capable to receive either PSTN call or a call form one of the VOIP accounts.
Similarly it is or should be capable to make outgoing calls to PSTN and VOIP
service. Is that not the case?
divoch
divoch:
> I thought the idea was that Siemens Gigaset would have several handsets each
> capable to receive either PSTN call or a call form one of the VOIP accounts.
> Similarly it is or should be capable to make outgoing calls to PSTN and VOIP
> service. Is that not the case?
> divoch
You can choose which of the lines (VoIP accounts and landline) rings on
which handset, but you can then transfer an incoming call to another
handset.
Each handset has a default outgoing line, but you can override it in
many ways:
- with a dialplan, based on part, or the whole of, the dialled number;
- force that specific call through a specific line, with a "#N" suffix
to the number;
- setting the two "soft keys" below the display to choose between VoIP
and landline for the next call.
You can also set the system to revert to call through the landline if
VoIP is not available (say the broadband is down for any reason).
You can have two VoIP calls and one landline call ongoing at the same time.
Only drawback of the system, doesn't work without electric power.
If you need to make a call during a power loss you need a normal PSTN
phone to plug into the socket.
You can mitigate the risk with a UPS for all of your essential network
gear, or keeping a mobile handy ;-) .
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"Bodincus" <nobody@this.address> wrote in message
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> divoch:
>> I thought the idea was that Siemens Gigaset would have several handsets
>> each capable to receive either PSTN call or a call form one of the VOIP
>> accounts. Similarly it is or should be capable to make outgoing calls to
>> PSTN and VOIP service. Is that not the case?
>> divoch
>
> You can choose which of the lines (VoIP accounts and landline) rings on
> which handset, but you can then transfer an incoming call to another
> handset.
Do you have to? Can't you have any incoming call ring on all handsets?
divoch
"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
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> divoch wrote :
>> I thought the idea was that Siemens Gigaset would have several handsets
>
> The OP is after using an IP handset (say snom or grandstream) to make and
> receive calls over the PSTN....AFAICT
>
Yes, but doing things "the other way round" could sometimes be more
practical and/or more cost effective.
divoch
Ivor Jones:
> On 11/04/10 23:43, divoch wrote:
>> "Bodincus"<nobody@this.address> wrote in message
>
> [snip]
>
>>> You can choose which of the lines (VoIP accounts and landline) rings on
>>> which handset, but you can then transfer an incoming call to another
>>> handset.
>>
>> Do you have to? Can't you have any incoming call ring on all handsets?
>> divoch
>
> It does as standard, I would imagine if you want it differently you'd
> have to configure it.
Yes. Any new line you configure rings on all registered handsets, and if
you want one handset NOT to, you untick a box.
>
> My question is can each line be made to ring with a different
> tone/cadence so you can tell which one is ringing without having to pick
> it up and look at the screen..?
>
No, you lazy boy... :-D But you can look at the display beforehand, as
we all humans did 10 years ago, it's a skill we haven't forgot yet. :-P
Each handset can have its own tone(s) for external and internal calls tho.
So if you set your "business" line(s) to ring on one handset and your
"home" line(s) on another, you can have a different ringtone for each
"category" or "scope" of the call.
Horses for courses, etc.
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>>
>> My question is can each line be made to ring with a different
>> tone/cadence so you can tell which one is ringing without having to
>> pick it up and look at the screen..?
>>
> No, you lazy boy... :-D But you can look at the display beforehand, as
> we all humans did 10 years ago, it's a skill we haven't forgot yet. :-P
> Each handset can have its own tone(s) for external and internal calls tho.
> So if you set your "business" line(s) to ring on one handset and your
> "home" line(s) on another, you can have a different ringtone for each
> "category" or "scope" of the call.
> Horses for courses, etc.
That means carrying 2 handsets around, which sort of defeats the point..!
It's not mine anyway, it's a friend's, he has 1 Sipgate number and 1
fixed line and only 1 handset. He wants different ring tones for each
number, which doesn't seem so much to ask. After all most mobiles these
days can do different tones for different incoming CLI's and when I had
Orange Line 2 ISTR it had different ring tones for each line.
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 12/04/10 12:48, Bodincus wrote:
>> Ivor Jones:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>
>>> My question is can each line be made to ring with a different
>>> tone/cadence so you can tell which one is ringing without having to
>>> pick it up and look at the screen..?
>>>
>> No, you lazy boy... :-D But you can look at the display beforehand, as
>> we all humans did 10 years ago, it's a skill we haven't forgot yet. :-P
>> Each handset can have its own tone(s) for external and internal calls
>> tho.
>> So if you set your "business" line(s) to ring on one handset and your
>> "home" line(s) on another, you can have a different ringtone for each
>> "category" or "scope" of the call.
>> Horses for courses, etc.
>
> That means carrying 2 handsets around, which sort of defeats the point..!
>
> It's not mine anyway, it's a friend's, he has 1 Sipgate number and 1 fixed
> line and only 1 handset. He wants different ring tones for each number,
> which doesn't seem so much to ask. After all most mobiles these days can
> do different tones for different incoming CLI's and when I had Orange Line
> 2 ISTR it had different ring tones for each line.
>
It would be nice to have but for me it is more important to know who is
ringing rather than which service he used to "get to me".
divoch
divoch:
> It would be nice to have but for me it is more important to know who is
> ringing rather than which service he used to "get to me".
> divoch
....and the Siemens Gigaset goes your way once more: you can set a
different ringtone for any of the numbers you have in the handset phonebook.
Each handset can have a different phonebook.
You can share one or all of the phonebook entries in one handset to one
or more of the other handsets.
Sorry if I appear to keep bashing about it, but I have specifically
chosen the Siemens Gigaset for my home-office out of experience and
experiments with *so* many different VoIP hardware devices and software
tools.
Great value for money.
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"Andrew W Young" <news09@andrew-young.com> wrote in message
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>
SNIP
>
> Which product? The Siemens IP 785 ?
>
> I have been reading the manual for this product and am not sure how it
> passes on PSTN calls to another VOIP handset on the LAN.
No it passes them to other DECT handsets over the air.
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:34:04 +0100, Bodincus <nobody@this.address>
wrote:
>divoch:
>> It would be nice to have but for me it is more important to know who is
>> ringing rather than which service he used to "get to me".
>> divoch
>...and the Siemens Gigaset goes your way once more: you can set a
>different ringtone for any of the numbers you have in the handset phonebook.
>Each handset can have a different phonebook.
>You can share one or all of the phonebook entries in one handset to one
>or more of the other handsets.
>
>Sorry if I appear to keep bashing about it, but I have specifically
>chosen the Siemens Gigaset for my home-office out of experience and
>experiments with *so* many different VoIP hardware devices and software
>tools.
>
>Great value for money.
but it has reliability problems. My S685IP, for example, has been
returned for repair/replacement three times and my Gigaset extender is
away at Siemens at the moment. Gigaset "support", at least
first-line, are shockingly ignorant about the product as well; I've
even been told that "we inform you that the Gigaset IP phones are not
fully compatible with the repeaters" which is cobblers.
Not everyone is as happy with these products as you are, Bodincus. And
I'm normally a big Siemens fan. I believe this product line was part
of the sale to Sagem, so perhaps nobody wants to take responsibility
for it. I certainly shan't buy or recommend it again.
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"David Millen" <notdmillen@newsfeeds.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:34:04 +0100, Bodincus <nobody@this.address>
> wrote:
>
>>divoch:
>>> It would be nice to have but for me it is more important to know who is
>>> ringing rather than which service he used to "get to me".
>>> divoch
>>...and the Siemens Gigaset goes your way once more: you can set a
>>different ringtone for any of the numbers you have in the handset
>>phonebook.
>>Each handset can have a different phonebook.
>>You can share one or all of the phonebook entries in one handset to one
>>or more of the other handsets.
>>
>>Sorry if I appear to keep bashing about it, but I have specifically
>>chosen the Siemens Gigaset for my home-office out of experience and
>>experiments with *so* many different VoIP hardware devices and software
>>tools.
>>
>>Great value for money.
>
> but it has reliability problems. My S685IP, for example, has been
> returned for repair/replacement three times and my Gigaset extender is
> away at Siemens at the moment. Gigaset "support", at least
> first-line, are shockingly ignorant about the product as well; I've
> even been told that "we inform you that the Gigaset IP phones are not
> fully compatible with the repeaters" which is cobblers.
>
> Not everyone is as happy with these products as you are, Bodincus. And
> I'm normally a big Siemens fan. I believe this product line was part
> of the sale to Sagem, so perhaps nobody wants to take responsibility
> for it. I certainly shan't buy or recommend it again.
> --
Are there alternatives with similar features?
divoch
David Millen:
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:34:04 +0100, Bodincus <nobody@this.address>
> wrote:
>
>> divoch:
>>> It would be nice to have but for me it is more important to know who is
>>> ringing rather than which service he used to "get to me".
>>> divoch
>> ...and the Siemens Gigaset goes your way once more: you can set a
>> different ringtone for any of the numbers you have in the handset phonebook.
>> Each handset can have a different phonebook.
>> You can share one or all of the phonebook entries in one handset to one
>> or more of the other handsets.
>>
>> Sorry if I appear to keep bashing about it, but I have specifically
>> chosen the Siemens Gigaset for my home-office out of experience and
>> experiments with *so* many different VoIP hardware devices and software
>> tools.
>>
>> Great value for money.
>
> but it has reliability problems. My S685IP, for example, has been
> returned for repair/replacement three times and my Gigaset extender is
> away at Siemens at the moment. Gigaset "support", at least
> first-line, are shockingly ignorant about the product as well; I've
> even been told that "we inform you that the Gigaset IP phones are not
> fully compatible with the repeaters" which is cobblers.
>
> Not everyone is as happy with these products as you are, Bodincus. And
> I'm normally a big Siemens fan. I believe this product line was part
> of the sale to Sagem, so perhaps nobody wants to take responsibility
> for it. I certainly shan't buy or recommend it again.
Sorry, I have about 50 of them around to customer's premises - not a
problem in years. Either you were unlucky or VoIP it's just not for you.
If you can't vouch for them and won't recommend it for your own single
experience, I have 50 + happy stories to tell.
I have chosen them for my own home after I had them around to my
customers' homes and offices for a long time without hiccups.
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:25:14 UTC, Bodincus <nobody@this.address>
wrote:
<snip>
> Sorry, I have about 50 of them around to customer's premises - not a
> problem in years. Either you were unlucky or VoIP it's just not for you.
> If you can't vouch for them and won't recommend it for your own single
> experience, I have 50 + happy stories to tell.
> I have chosen them for my own home after I had them around to my
> customers' homes and offices for a long time without hiccups.
I agree about their support. I only wish, being an IP phone, that one
could actually store and use SIP addresses :-( By which I mean
12345@11.22.33.44 - Can't be done AFAIK. Only partially using just the
ip address. Not a lot of use really. S450IP BTW.
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Dave Saville
In article <eJZyn.101508$oe5.5933@newsfe27.ams2>, Bodincus
<nobody@this.address> writes
>Sorry, I have about 50 of them around to customer's premises - not a
>problem in years. Either you were unlucky or VoIP it's just not for you.
>If you can't vouch for them and won't recommend it for your own single
>experience, I have 50 + happy stories to tell.
>I have chosen them for my own home after I had them around to my
>customers' homes and offices for a long time without hiccups.
Thanks for your pointers here, very helpful.
I'm about to dip my toe in into a small home office voip setup and the
gigasets seem to be the way to go. I'm assuming that the new generation
S865IP are the way to go for a new setup?
How much of your happy installed user base is using the new generation
vs the older 475IPs?
--
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Ivor Jones <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
> It's not mine anyway, it's a friend's, he has 1 Sipgate number and 1
> fixed line and only 1 handset. He wants different ring tones for each
> number [...]
fred:
> In article <eJZyn.101508$oe5.5933@newsfe27.ams2>, Bodincus
> <nobody@this.address> writes
>
>> Sorry, I have about 50 of them around to customer's premises - not a
>> problem in years. Either you were unlucky or VoIP it's just not for you.
>> If you can't vouch for them and won't recommend it for your own single
>> experience, I have 50 + happy stories to tell.
>> I have chosen them for my own home after I had them around to my
>> customers' homes and offices for a long time without hiccups.
>
> Thanks for your pointers here, very helpful.
>
> I'm about to dip my toe in into a small home office voip setup and the
> gigasets seem to be the way to go. I'm assuming that the new generation
> S865IP are the way to go for a new setup?
>
> How much of your happy installed user base is using the new generation
> vs the older 475IPs?
My customers have C475IP, S450IP and S675IP phones, and I haven't tested
a "new gen" Siemens yet.
As far as I can tell (and by my customers feedback) they're happy and
the phones do their job. These are people that use them at home and in
their shops every day, and some of them have some S450IP since 2007.
I also have customers with some SNOM M3, but despite SNOM being the
brand I would recommend for wired phones any day, the wireless M3 is a
bit underwhelming. It's OK as a roaming extension for a VoIP PBX, but
it's missing many basic features the Siemens have.
Remember all XxxxIP phones are based on the Chagall firmware, so they're
almost equivalent. I know that there are two "versions" of the Chagall
platform, but they differ for collateral features, the VoIP basics are
the same.
However, I wouldn't recommend the Gigaset for an office environment,
they're OK for a SOHO and nothing more.
If you need an office phone system where you have a receptionist, the
Siemens /can/ play a part as roaming extensions, but the system features
are too limited to be *the phone system* for an office, even the
smallest. No independent voicemail per extension, max two VoIP
simultaneous calls, call transfer is a bit clunky, etc.
HTH
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In article <1ngzn.24323$TL1.17994@newsfe06.ams2>, Bodincus
<nobody@this.address> writes
>fred:
>>
>> I'm about to dip my toe in into a small home office voip setup and the
>> gigasets seem to be the way to go. I'm assuming that the new generation
>> S865IP are the way to go for a new setup?
>>
>> How much of your happy installed user base is using the new generation
>> vs the older 475IPs?
>My customers have C475IP, S450IP and S675IP phones, and I haven't tested
>a "new gen" Siemens yet.
>
>As far as I can tell (and by my customers feedback) they're happy and
>the phones do their job. These are people that use them at home and in
>their shops every day, and some of them have some S450IP since 2007.
>
>I also have customers with some SNOM M3, but despite SNOM being the
>brand I would recommend for wired phones any day, the wireless M3 is a
>bit underwhelming. It's OK as a roaming extension for a VoIP PBX, but
>it's missing many basic features the Siemens have.
>
>Remember all XxxxIP phones are based on the Chagall firmware, so they're
>almost equivalent. I know that there are two "versions" of the Chagall
>platform, but they differ for collateral features, the VoIP basics are
>the same.
>
>However, I wouldn't recommend the Gigaset for an office environment,
>they're OK for a SOHO and nothing more.
>
>If you need an office phone system where you have a receptionist, the
>Siemens /can/ play a part as roaming extensions, but the system features
>are too limited to be *the phone system* for an office, even the
>smallest. No independent voicemail per extension, max two VoIP
>simultaneous calls, call transfer is a bit clunky, etc.
>
>HTH
That's very useful thanks, it's def a SOHO operation, only 2 desks with
an occasional extra assistant, call transfer is currently achieved by
passing a dect handset to the other person so they're not expecting
anything fancy. It's currently common for them to move over to mobiles
when the other lines are busy but 2 voip + 1 LL should be more than
enough. Point taken on the other clunky aspects, I'll bear them in mind.
I was tending towards the more recent gigasets for future proofing but
they don't really need the features of the S685IP, it's just that they
seem to be similarly priced to the S675IP at the usual suspects so I
thought why not?
I'll look in detail at the options again before buying but when it's
only 20quid difference (before vat) between a trio C475IP and a S685IP
system it seems silly not to go for the whizziest one.
--
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In article <1ngzn.24323$TL1.17994@newsfe06.ams2>,
Bodincus <nobody@this.address> wrote:
>If you need an office phone system where you have a receptionist, the
>Siemens /can/ play a part as roaming extensions, but the system features
>are too limited to be *the phone system* for an office, even the
>smallest. No independent voicemail per extension, max two VoIP
>simultaneous calls, call transfer is a bit clunky, etc.
You can do all that with a local (or hosted) PBX though - and I have many
customers who do. 2 handsets per base station is an OK compromise for a
small number of units. Never had someone want 100 cordless phones - yet!!!
I found that the older C460IP's did need rebooting every few days in a
busy environment, but there's no way to do it via their web interface,
so a power strip with a mechanical timer was a low-tec solution. The
newer phones don't seem to need it though.
I'd install Siemens DECT phones over Snom anyday...
fred:
> In article <1ngzn.24323$TL1.17994@newsfe06.ams2>, Bodincus
> <nobody@this.address> writes
>> fred:
>>>
>>> I'm about to dip my toe in into a small home office voip setup and the
>>> gigasets seem to be the way to go. I'm assuming that the new generation
>>> S865IP are the way to go for a new setup?
>>>
>>> How much of your happy installed user base is using the new generation
>>> vs the older 475IPs?
>> My customers have C475IP, S450IP and S675IP phones, and I haven't tested
>> a "new gen" Siemens yet.
>>
>> As far as I can tell (and by my customers feedback) they're happy and
>> the phones do their job. These are people that use them at home and in
>> their shops every day, and some of them have some S450IP since 2007.
>>
>> I also have customers with some SNOM M3, but despite SNOM being the
>> brand I would recommend for wired phones any day, the wireless M3 is a
>> bit underwhelming. It's OK as a roaming extension for a VoIP PBX, but
>> it's missing many basic features the Siemens have.
>>
>> Remember all XxxxIP phones are based on the Chagall firmware, so they're
>> almost equivalent. I know that there are two "versions" of the Chagall
>> platform, but they differ for collateral features, the VoIP basics are
>> the same.
>>
>> However, I wouldn't recommend the Gigaset for an office environment,
>> they're OK for a SOHO and nothing more.
>>
>> If you need an office phone system where you have a receptionist, the
>> Siemens /can/ play a part as roaming extensions, but the system features
>> are too limited to be *the phone system* for an office, even the
>> smallest. No independent voicemail per extension, max two VoIP
>> simultaneous calls, call transfer is a bit clunky, etc.
>>
>> HTH
>
> That's very useful thanks, it's def a SOHO operation, only 2 desks with
> an occasional extra assistant, call transfer is currently achieved by
> passing a dect handset to the other person so they're not expecting
> anything fancy. It's currently common for them to move over to mobiles
> when the other lines are busy but 2 voip + 1 LL should be more than
> enough. Point taken on the other clunky aspects, I'll bear them in mind.
>
> I was tending towards the more recent gigasets for future proofing but
> they don't really need the features of the S685IP, it's just that they
> seem to be similarly priced to the S675IP at the usual suspects so I
> thought why not?
>
> I'll look in detail at the options again before buying but when it's
> only 20quid difference (before vat) between a trio C475IP and a S685IP
> system it seems silly not to go for the whizziest one.
If you don't mind to have a B&W display - and let me say it's not such a
loss on Siemens handsets anyway - the new A serie is cheaper, with the
A580IP at ~ 50 quid + VAT for base & one handset, additional handsets
(A58H) come @ ~ 20 quid + VAT.
The firmware is the same, Chagall platform, 2 VoIP + 1 landline call, 6
VoIP registrations. No internal voicemail tho.
One step up is the C460IP, then the C475IP, then up to the S450IP and
then the S658IP.
All similar, with colour display, internal voicemail, 2+1 calls, 6 VoIP
accounts, and blah blah.
I might be able to get trade prices from them, as from ProVu.
Cheers
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In article <I%izn.15018$gj4.6791@newsfe28.ams2>, Bodincus
<nobody@this.address> writes
>
>If you don't mind to have a B&W display - and let me say it's not such a
>loss on Siemens handsets anyway - the new A serie is cheaper, with the
>A580IP at ~ 50 quid + VAT for base & one handset, additional handsets
>(A58H) come @ ~ 20 quid + VAT.
>The firmware is the same, Chagall platform, 2 VoIP + 1 landline call, 6
>VoIP registrations. No internal voicemail tho.
>
>One step up is the C460IP, then the C475IP, then up to the S450IP and
>then the S658IP.
>All similar, with colour display, internal voicemail, 2+1 calls, 6 VoIP
>accounts, and blah blah.
>
>See http://www.voipon.co.uk/siemens-dect...-c-148_93.html
>
>I might be able to get trade prices from them, as from ProVu.
>
Thanks for the further useful info & offer.
B/W might do me for home but I think the office bods deserve a treat,
they've been making do with some real crap over the last couple of years
so I think it'll be colour. It'd be nice to have a basic ans m/c in the
unit too in case my plan of voice mail by email falls over.
Think I'll stick with buying from voipon or similar, easier to sort
quickly if something goes wrong with the units in the first year.
--
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fred:
> B/W might do me for home but I think the office bods deserve a treat,
> they've been making do with some real crap over the last couple of years
> so I think it'll be colour. It'd be nice to have a basic ans m/c in the
> unit too in case my plan of voice mail by email falls over.
>
> Think I'll stick with buying from voipon or similar, easier to sort
> quickly if something goes wrong with the units in the first year.
Well, if you can have trade prices for them give it a go.
I have, and obviously you'll have the same 1 year warranty.
In case of a faulty unit, I might be able to get you a straight
replacement too, instead of you having to send it out and waiting for it
to be repaired or replaced.
If you can get the same conditions from VoipOn, sure it's better for you.
HTH
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Bodincus - The Y2K Druid
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