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Old 04-02-2010, 05:20 PM
Andrew W Young
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Default Answering PSTN landline calls on VOIP handset


I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.

The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.

Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
handset?

Thanks.

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Old 04-02-2010, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: Answering PSTN landline calls on VOIP handset

In article <QBxAK1DEditLFANl@tylehurst.demon.co.uk>,
Andrew W Young <news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>
>I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>
>The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>
>Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>handset?


Siemens Gigaset DECT phones.

The base has both VoIP and analogue capabilities.

I've installed a few of these for "home worker" type scenarios where the
VoIP line is off the office PBX via broadband and the analogue port is
connected to the home phone line. Outgoing call selection can be made
on the handset.

The alternative is an ATA - Analogue Temrinal Adapter type box - lets you
use your existing analogue phones.. Some routers have them built in too.

Gordon

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Old 04-02-2010, 08:45 PM
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>On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:20:04 +0100, Andrew W Young
><news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>
>>The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>
>>Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>handset?

>
>Linksys/Cisco SPA3102.
>
>BUT getting good voice quality without far-end echo on the PSTN line
>is a challenge. Google for more info.


Thanks -- I have been looking at the manuals for this device and it
looks to be ideal for connecting analog/PSTN handsets to VOIP services.

But is it suitable for connecting VOIP handsets to analog/PSTN services,
i.e. the other way round?

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Old 04-03-2010, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Answering PSTN landline calls on VOIP handset

Andrew W Young was thinking very hard :
>>On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:20:04 +0100, Andrew W Young
>><news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>>
>>>The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>>VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>
>>>Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>>handset?

>>
>>Linksys/Cisco SPA3102.
>>
>>BUT getting good voice quality without far-end echo on the PSTN line
>>is a challenge. Google for more info.

>
> Thanks -- I have been looking at the manuals for this device and it looks to
> be ideal for connecting analog/PSTN handsets to VOIP services.
>
> But is it suitable for connecting VOIP handsets to analog/PSTN services, i.e.
> the other way round?


Possibly, though you'd need more help on the dial plan than I can
offer, without something in between, like Asterisk.

These are some of the things I use my 3 for:

an analogue phone to a Voip service.
an analogue line to the same box/phone
an analogue line to a Asterisk PBX
an analogue phone to a pbx
a remote analogue line (I can make and receive calls on my Mum's
landline)
a remote analogue phone connected to my PBX
a GSM gateway connected to my PBX

So, I can, using Asterisk in between, dial out on my fixed line, or my
Mum's, from any of my IP phones and, of course, answer the landlines on
any phone.

Look at http://www.provu.co.uk/support.html in the Linksys section for
some interesting articles.

Note the SPA3000 was superceded with the SPA3102.



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Old 04-03-2010, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Answering PSTN landline calls on VOIP handset

On 02/04/10 18:42, Gordon Henderson wrote:
> In article<QBxAK1DEditLFANl@tylehurst.demon.co.uk>,
> Andrew W Young<news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>
>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>
>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>> handset?

>
> Siemens Gigaset DECT phones.
>
> The base has both VoIP and analogue capabilities.
>
> I've installed a few of these for "home worker" type scenarios where the
> VoIP line is off the office PBX via broadband and the analogue port is
> connected to the home phone line. Outgoing call selection can be made
> on the handset.
>
> The alternative is an ATA - Analogue Temrinal Adapter type box - lets you
> use your existing analogue phones.. Some routers have them built in too.
>
> Gordon

Agree about the Gigaset - had a 475ip for some time now - works a treat.

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Old 04-07-2010, 07:58 PM
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"Ian Pawson" <me@ianp.eu> wrote in message
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> On 02/04/10 18:42, Gordon Henderson wrote:
>> In article<QBxAK1DEditLFANl@tylehurst.demon.co.uk>,
>> Andrew W Young<news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>>
>>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>> handset?

>>
>> Siemens Gigaset DECT phones.
>>
>> The base has both VoIP and analogue capabilities.
>>
>> I've installed a few of these for "home worker" type scenarios where the
>> VoIP line is off the office PBX via broadband and the analogue port is
>> connected to the home phone line. Outgoing call selection can be made
>> on the handset.
>>
>> The alternative is an ATA - Analogue Temrinal Adapter type box - lets you
>> use your existing analogue phones.. Some routers have them built in too.
>>
>> Gordon

> Agree about the Gigaset - had a 475ip for some time now - works a treat.


Can you connect more than one VOPI lines to Gigaset DECT phones or any other
VOPI/DECT phone?
divoch


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Old 04-07-2010, 09:11 PM
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"divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ian Pawson" <me@ianp.eu> wrote in message
> news:hp7mpu$ll1$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 02/04/10 18:42, Gordon Henderson wrote:
>>> In article<QBxAK1DEditLFANl@tylehurst.demon.co.uk>,
>>> Andrew W Young<news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>>>

snip

> Can you connect more than one VOPI lines to Gigaset DECT phones or any
> other VOPI/DECT phone?
> divoch


The latest (IP785?) version allows for six Voip accounts, one landline and
Siemens own proprietary (but free) Gigaset service.



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Old 04-08-2010, 06:38 AM
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R. Mark Clayton expressed precisely :
>> Can you connect more than one VOIP lines to Gigaset DECT phones or any
>> other VOIP/DECT phone?
>> divoch

>
> The latest (IP785?) version allows for six Voip accounts, one landline and
> Siemens' own proprietary (but free) Gigaset service.


I don't think you can use it as a gateway for other, separate devices,
though.

I would suspect that other maufacturer's handsets can be paired with
the base.



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Old 04-08-2010, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: Answering PSTN landline calls on VOIP handset

In article <mn.41ca7da47403807a.88534@blueyonder.invalid>,
Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>R. Mark Clayton expressed precisely :
>>> Can you connect more than one VOIP lines to Gigaset DECT phones or any
>>> other VOIP/DECT phone?
>>> divoch

>>
>> The latest (IP785?) version allows for six Voip accounts, one landline and
>> Siemens' own proprietary (but free) Gigaset service.

>
>I don't think you can use it as a gateway for other, separate devices,
>though.


True

>I would suspect that other maufacturer's handsets can be paired with
>the base.


They can - but can only use the first account to take a call on (or it
might be all accounts, I'd need to check - I do have one at home setup
like this)

Gordon

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Old 04-08-2010, 09:37 AM
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Andrew W Young wrote:
>
> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>
> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>
> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
> handset?


I don't think anyone (yet) has a simple black box that plugs into your
PSTN socket and ethernet switch and presents the PSTN line to a VOIP
handset.

I believe that you can get interface cards for PSTN to PC that will
allow software on a PC to present incoming landline calls to VOIP
handsets on the LAN through the PC.

Afaik it's a fairly common Linux application to provide a VOIP PABX
across a site with interfaces to both VOIP and PSTN external calls.

Asterisk comes to mind as a fairly common (linux) app for doing this.

Rgds

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Old 04-08-2010, 10:26 AM
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"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Andrew W Young wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>
>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>
>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>> handset?

>
> I don't think anyone (yet) has a simple black box that plugs into your
> PSTN socket and ethernet switch and presents the PSTN line to a VOIP
> handset.
>
> I believe that you can get interface cards for PSTN to PC that will
> allow software on a PC to present incoming landline calls to VOIP
> handsets on the LAN through the PC.
>
> Afaik it's a fairly common Linux application to provide a VOIP PABX
> across a site with interfaces to both VOIP and PSTN external calls.
>
> Asterisk comes to mind as a fairly common (linux) app for doing this.
>
> Rgds


If I settled for keeping a separate existing PSTN DECT system from VOIP;
is there a box that would receive several VOIP accounts ( +Skype, but not
essential) and could have one or more associated cordless handsets?
divoch


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Old 04-08-2010, 11:06 AM
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divoch:
> If I settled for keeping a separate existing PSTN DECT system from
> VOIP; is there a box that would receive several VOIP accounts ( +Skype,
> but not essential) and could have one or more associated cordless
> handsets?
> divoch

Any Siemens Gigaset can do what you ask for, up to 6 VoIP accounts and a
landline, up to 6 handsets.
The base comes with one wireless handset, and you can buy additional
handsets later. Any brand / make / model of handset can be paired with
the base, as far as they're DECT and GAP compliant.
Obviously, you get the most out of it, and the best integration, with
the specific Gigaset model additional handsets.
You can choose which account(s) will ring on which handset(s), and which
VoIP account (or the landline) your outbound call will use with a
dialplan, and a lot much more like RSS feeds on your handset(s).
I'm using it myself at home, well worth it.
If you want, I can get it at reseller prices.

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Old 04-08-2010, 11:12 AM
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In article <zbivn.271712$gI6.41934@newsfe07.ams2>,
divoch <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:4bbda3eb$0$19701$bed64819@gradwell.net...
>> Andrew W Young wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>>
>>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>> handset?

>>
>> I don't think anyone (yet) has a simple black box that plugs into your
>> PSTN socket and ethernet switch and presents the PSTN line to a VOIP
>> handset.


Define simple - I make and sell these... However I don't sell them for
DIY installations because most SMEs don't want to DIY their phone system.

>> I believe that you can get interface cards for PSTN to PC that will
>> allow software on a PC to present incoming landline calls to VOIP
>> handsets on the LAN through the PC.
>>
>> Afaik it's a fairly common Linux application to provide a VOIP PABX
>> across a site with interfaces to both VOIP and PSTN external calls.
>>
>> Asterisk comes to mind as a fairly common (linux) app for doing this.
>>
>> Rgds

>
>If I settled for keeping a separate existing PSTN DECT system from VOIP;
>is there a box that would receive several VOIP accounts ( +Skype, but not
>essential) and could have one or more associated cordless handsets?


They're called PBXs - and at this level a Linux box running Asterisk is
ideal, if somewhat tricky to setup from scratch, however there are many
solutions if you want to DIY it - such as trixbox, pbxinaflash and so on.

However if you want a black-box solution to DIY, then there are many
alternatives out there - e.g. have a look at this page:

http://www.voipon.co.uk/ip-pbxs-c-21.html

And e.g.:

http://www.voipon.co.uk/atcom-ip01-p-1057.html

That can take one BT line and allow a number of SIP devices to connect
into it - it can also register to external SIP accounts and provide a
one-box-does all type of solution (apart from Skype)

Gordon

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Old 04-08-2010, 12:14 PM
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"Bodincus" <nobody@this.address> wrote in message
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> divoch:
>> If I settled for keeping a separate existing PSTN DECT system from VOIP;
>> is there a box that would receive several VOIP accounts ( +Skype, but not
>> essential) and could have one or more associated cordless handsets?
>> divoch

> Any Siemens Gigaset can do what you ask for, up to 6 VoIP accounts and a
> landline, up to 6 handsets.
> The base comes with one wireless handset, and you can buy additional
> handsets later. Any brand / make / model of handset can be paired with the
> base, as far as they're DECT and GAP compliant.
> Obviously, you get the most out of it, and the best integration, with the
> specific Gigaset model additional handsets.
> You can choose which account(s) will ring on which handset(s), and which
> VoIP account (or the landline) your outbound call will use with a
> dialplan, and a lot much more like RSS feeds on your handset(s).
> I'm using it myself at home, well worth it.
> If you want, I can get it at reseller prices.
>
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Not all gigaset handsets are voip compatible - mine are only DECT and they
wont subscribe to my ntl vs2000 base station and yet both are gap
compatible.


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Old 04-08-2010, 01:20 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 08/04/10 12:12, Gordon Henderson wrote:
>> In article<zbivn.271712$gI6.41934@newsfe07.ams2>,
>> divoch<divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Denis McMahon"<denis.m.f.mcmahon@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:4bbda3eb$0$19701$bed64819@gradwell.net...
>>>> Andrew W Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP
>>>>> handset.
>>>>>
>>>>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>>>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>>>> handset?
>>>>
>>>> I don't think anyone (yet) has a simple black box that plugs into your
>>>> PSTN socket and ethernet switch and presents the PSTN line to a VOIP
>>>> handset.

>>
>> Define simple - I make and sell these... However I don't sell them for
>> DIY installations because most SMEs don't want to DIY their phone system.
>>
>>>> I believe that you can get interface cards for PSTN to PC that will
>>>> allow software on a PC to present incoming landline calls to VOIP
>>>> handsets on the LAN through the PC.
>>>>
>>>> Afaik it's a fairly common Linux application to provide a VOIP PABX
>>>> across a site with interfaces to both VOIP and PSTN external calls.
>>>>
>>>> Asterisk comes to mind as a fairly common (linux) app for doing this.
>>>>
>>>> Rgds
>>>
>>> If I settled for keeping a separate existing PSTN DECT system from
>>> VOIP;
>>> is there a box that would receive several VOIP accounts ( +Skype, but
>>> not
>>> essential) and could have one or more associated cordless handsets?

>>
>> They're called PBXs - and at this level a Linux box running Asterisk is
>> ideal, if somewhat tricky to setup from scratch, however there are many
>> solutions if you want to DIY it - such as trixbox, pbxinaflash and so on.
>>
>> However if you want a black-box solution to DIY, then there are many
>> alternatives out there - e.g. have a look at this page:
>>
>> http://www.voipon.co.uk/ip-pbxs-c-21.html
>>
>> And e.g.:
>>
>> http://www.voipon.co.uk/atcom-ip01-p-1057.html
>>
>> That can take one BT line and allow a number of SIP devices to connect
>> into it - it can also register to external SIP accounts and provide a
>> one-box-does all type of solution (apart from Skype)
>>
>> Gordon

>
> Any of the Fritz!Box devices from www.avm.de/en will do this and a lot
> more besides.
>


I have now few things to browse through -:) Since I have Skype on Skypephone
3 mobile it should not be a disadvantage to keep it separate from SIP
accounts.
thanks
divoch


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Old 04-08-2010, 01:30 PM
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"Bodincus" <nobody@this.address> wrote in message
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> divoch:
>> If I settled for keeping a separate existing PSTN DECT system from VOIP;
>> is there a box that would receive several VOIP accounts ( +Skype, but not
>> essential) and could have one or more associated cordless handsets?
>> divoch

> Any Siemens Gigaset can do what you ask for, up to 6 VoIP accounts and a
> landline, up to 6 handsets.
> The base comes with one wireless handset, and you can buy additional
> handsets later. Any brand / make / model of handset can be paired with the
> base, as far as they're DECT and GAP compliant.
> Obviously, you get the most out of it, and the best integration, with the
> specific Gigaset model additional handsets.
> You can choose which account(s) will ring on which handset(s), and which
> VoIP account (or the landline) your outbound call will use with a
> dialplan, and a lot much more like RSS feeds on your handset(s).
> I'm using it myself at home, well worth it.
> If you want, I can get it at reseller prices.
>


If I was about to replace my Panasonic DECT cordless phone then this looks
to be the most straightforward solution.
divoch


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Old 04-08-2010, 03:17 PM
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Roger:
> Not all gigaset handsets are voip compatible - mine are only DECT and
> they wont subscribe to my ntl vs2000 base station and yet both are gap
> compatible.

I had a Philips Kala 200 and a BT something (not mine, don't remember)
registered to the Siemens Gigaset C475IP base I have, no problems.
If a GAP handset can't register to a GAP base, one or both of the units
aren't really GAP compatible. To be GAP compatible, the MINIMUM
requirement is to be able to register a handset to a base regardless of
brand and model.
Yes, not all Gigaset products are VoIP, in fact there are some Siemens
Gigaset ADSL routers too.
Gigaset It's a Siemens "brand" for a line of consumer products.
All VoIP capable base units have a product name ending in "IP".

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Old 04-08-2010, 03:21 PM
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divoch:
> I have now few things to browse through -:) Since I have Skype on
> Skypephone 3 mobile it should not be a disadvantage to keep it separate
> from SIP accounts.
> thanks
> divoch

Fritz!Box-es are good workhorses, but limited to two or three phones
(wired or wireless) and a bit overkill if you have a modem / router
already, or you're on cable.
If you sum the cost of the Fritz with a couple of DECT bases + phones
you can buy a Siemens Gigaset base + 4 handsets.
And an Asterisk-based PBX is *really* overkill for your requirements.

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Old 04-08-2010, 06:01 PM
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"Bodincus" <nobody@this.address> wrote in message
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> divoch:
>> I have now few things to browse through -:) Since I have Skype on
>> Skypephone 3 mobile it should not be a disadvantage to keep it separate
>> from SIP accounts.
>> thanks
>> divoch

> Fritz!Box-es are good workhorses, but limited to two or three phones
> (wired or wireless) and a bit overkill if you have a modem / router
> already, or you're on cable.
> If you sum the cost of the Fritz with a couple of DECT bases + phones you
> can buy a Siemens Gigaset base + 4 handsets.
> And an Asterisk-based PBX is *really* overkill for your requirements.


I am on cable and I have a modem and a wireless router, so I think you are
right.
divoch


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Old 04-09-2010, 02:12 PM
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divoch:
> I am on cable and I have a modem and a wireless router, so I think you
> are right.
> divoch

Same config as me, so the Siemens Gigaset is the right way forward for you.
I'm in the VoIP business, and I have personally found this is the best
combination when considering value for money.
I can vouch for this solution - practice what you preach is my motto.
Remember I have access to trade prices.
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:54 PM
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"Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote in message
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> In article <mn.41ca7da47403807a.88534@blueyonder.invalid>,
> Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>>R. Mark Clayton expressed precisely :
>>>> Can you connect more than one VOIP lines to Gigaset DECT phones or any
>>>> other VOIP/DECT phone?
>>>> divoch
>>>
>>> The latest (IP785?) version allows for six Voip accounts, one landline
>>> and
>>> Siemens' own proprietary (but free) Gigaset service.

>>
>>I don't think you can use it as a gateway for other, separate devices,
>>though.

>
> True
>
>>I would suspect that other maufacturer's handsets can be paired with
>>the base.

>
> They can - but can only use the first account to take a call on (or it
> might be all accounts, I'd need to check - I do have one at home setup
> like this)


Rubbish - download and read the manual.

Handsets can be configured to use any account and the user can select by
adding #n to select which one.

>
> Gordon




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Old 04-09-2010, 02:57 PM
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"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Andrew W Young wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>
>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>
>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>> handset?

>
> I don't think anyone (yet) has a simple black box that plugs into your
> PSTN socket and ethernet switch and presents the PSTN line to a VOIP
> handset.


! read the thread FGS, I have had one since 2008!

It actualy is black, ~13x10cm, with three wires you plug in (phone, internet
and power).

SNIP
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon




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Old 04-09-2010, 08:26 PM
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>"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Andrew W Young wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>>
>>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>> handset?

>>
>> I don't think anyone (yet) has a simple black box that plugs into your
>> PSTN socket and ethernet switch and presents the PSTN line to a VOIP
>> handset.

>
>! read the thread FGS, I have had one since 2008!
>
>It actualy is black, ~13x10cm, with three wires you plug in (phone, internet
>and power).


Which product? The Siemens IP 785 ?

I have been reading the manual for this product and am not sure how it
passes on PSTN calls to another VOIP handset on the LAN.

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>Andrew W Young was thinking very hard :
>>>On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:20:04 +0100, Andrew W Young
>>><news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>>>
>>>>The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>>>VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>>>handset?
>>>
>>>Linksys/Cisco SPA3102.
>>>
>>>BUT getting good voice quality without far-end echo on the PSTN line
>>>is a challenge. Google for more info.

>>
>> Thanks -- I have been looking at the manuals for this device and it
>>looks to be ideal for connecting analog/PSTN handsets to VOIP services.
>>
>> But is it suitable for connecting VOIP handsets to analog/PSTN
>>services, i.e. the other way round?

>
>Possibly, though you'd need more help on the dial plan than I can
>offer, without something in between, like Asterisk.


I've looked at it and I believe it won't do what I am after. The VOIP
handset would need to register / login with a SIP account to the Linksys
SPA3102. But the 3102 does not offer this functionality, assuming I
have understood the material correctly.

I believe that I am after a device which connects to (a) PSTN line and
(b) LAN. Listens on PSTN line for incoming calls. Offers a SIP account
for local handsets to login to. Presents incoming PSTN lines to that
SIP account.

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"Andrew W Young" <news09@andrew-young.com> wrote in message
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>>Andrew W Young was thinking very hard :
>>>>On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:20:04 +0100, Andrew W Young
>>>><news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>>>>
>>>>>The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>>>>VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>>>>handset?
>>>>
>>>>Linksys/Cisco SPA3102.
>>>>
>>>>BUT getting good voice quality without far-end echo on the PSTN line
>>>>is a challenge. Google for more info.
>>>
>>> Thanks -- I have been looking at the manuals for this device and it
>>> looks to be ideal for connecting analog/PSTN handsets to VOIP services.
>>>
>>> But is it suitable for connecting VOIP handsets to analog/PSTN services,
>>> i.e. the other way round?

>>
>>Possibly, though you'd need more help on the dial plan than I can offer,
>>without something in between, like Asterisk.

>
> I've looked at it and I believe it won't do what I am after. The VOIP
> handset would need to register / login with a SIP account to the Linksys
> SPA3102. But the 3102 does not offer this functionality, assuming I have
> understood the material correctly.
>
> I believe that I am after a device which connects to (a) PSTN line and (b)
> LAN. Listens on PSTN line for incoming calls. Offers a SIP account for
> local handsets to login to. Presents incoming PSTN lines to that SIP
> account.
>
> --
> Andrew W. Young news09@andrew-young.com
> http://www.andrew-young.com/


Andrew
you can forward calls from an spa3102 to another voip device so I'm pretty
sure you could do what you want but the question would be why would you want
to?

With an SPA3102 you only need to plug in an ordinary analogue phone and you
can answer VOIP calls and PSTN calls on that single handset, all handled by
the SPA3102.

If you want to know about registering voip handsets to an SPA device go to
voxilla.org and look in the Linksys/Sipura hardware forum - I always find
this a very useful place for finding out how to do something with my
spa3102 .

If you want to look at some good instructions for how to set one up for use
in the UK take a look at
http://www.aoakley.com/articles/2008-01-08.php

Roger.


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"Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Andrew W Young" <news09@andrew-young.com> wrote in message
> news:ruP+h+T3k5vLFAJ4@tylehurst.demon.co.uk...
>>>Andrew W Young was thinking very hard :
>>>>>On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:20:04 +0100, Andrew W Young
>>>>><news09@andrew-young.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP
>>>>>>handset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>>>>>VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>>>>>handset?
>>>>>
>>>>>Linksys/Cisco SPA3102.
>>>>>
>>>>>BUT getting good voice quality without far-end echo on the PSTN line
>>>>>is a challenge. Google for more info.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks -- I have been looking at the manuals for this device and it
>>>> looks to be ideal for connecting analog/PSTN handsets to VOIP
>>>> services.
>>>>
>>>> But is it suitable for connecting VOIP handsets to analog/PSTN
>>>> services, i.e. the other way round?
>>>
>>>Possibly, though you'd need more help on the dial plan than I can offer,
>>>without something in between, like Asterisk.

>>
>> I've looked at it and I believe it won't do what I am after. The VOIP
>> handset would need to register / login with a SIP account to the Linksys
>> SPA3102. But the 3102 does not offer this functionality, assuming I have
>> understood the material correctly.
>>
>> I believe that I am after a device which connects to (a) PSTN line and
>> (b) LAN. Listens on PSTN line for incoming calls. Offers a SIP account
>> for local handsets to login to. Presents incoming PSTN lines to that SIP
>> account.
>>
>> --
>> Andrew W. Young news09@andrew-young.com
>> http://www.andrew-young.com/

>
> Andrew
> you can forward calls from an spa3102 to another voip device so I'm pretty
> sure you could do what you want but the question would be why would you
> want to?
>
> With an SPA3102 you only need to plug in an ordinary analogue phone and
> you can answer VOIP calls and PSTN calls on that single handset, all
> handled by the SPA3102.
>
> If you want to know about registering voip handsets to an SPA device go to
> voxilla.org and look in the Linksys/Sipura hardware forum - I always find
> this a very useful place for finding out how to do something with my
> spa3102 .
>
> If you want to look at some good instructions for how to set one up for
> use in the UK take a look at
> http://www.aoakley.com/articles/2008-01-08.php
>
> Roger.


sorry the voxilla forum is at voxilla.com not voxilla.org


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Old 04-10-2010, 08:27 AM
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After serious thinking Andrew W Young wrote :
> I believe that I am after a device which connects to (a) PSTN line and (b)
> LAN. Listens on PSTN line for incoming calls. Offers a SIP account for
> local handsets to login to. Presents incoming PSTN lines to that SIP
> account.


They call the device you're looking for a PBX



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Old 04-10-2010, 08:31 AM
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Andrew W Young pretended :
>>"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:4bbda3eb$0$19701$bed64819@gradwell.net...
>>> Andrew W Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a way to answer PSTN landline calls on a VOIP handset.
>>>>
>>>> The aim is to have one handset which rings for both its own incoming
>>>> VOIP calls and also any calls on a landline within the premises.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on a piece of hardware to present the PSTN line to the VOIP
>>>> handset?
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone (yet) has a simple black box that plugs into your
>>> PSTN socket and ethernet switch and presents the PSTN line to a VOIP
>>> handset.

>>
>>! read the thread FGS, I have had one since 2008!
>>
>>It actualy is black, ~13x10cm, with three wires you plug in (phone, internet
>>and power).

>
> Which product? The Siemens IP 785 ?
>
> I have been reading the manual for this product and am not sure how it passes
> on PSTN calls to another VOIP handset on the LAN.


It can't.

The SPA3000/3102, in conjunction with an SPA9000 does what you're
after, however, not in one unit. Other than that, it's PBX time (one
unit).



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Old 04-10-2010, 08:51 AM
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Andrew W Young explained on 09/04/2010 :
>> Possibly, though you'd need more help on the dial plan than I can offer,
>> without something in between, like Asterisk.

>
> I've looked at it and I believe it won't do what I am after. The VOIP
> handset would need to register / login with a SIP account to the Linksys
> SPA3102. But the 3102 does not offer this functionality, assuming I have
> understood the material correctly.


I bet it's possible with a Linksys IP phone. You can certainly achieve
this with an SPA1001/2000/2102 etc.

See here for some clues.



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on 10/04/2010, Jono supposed :
> See here for some clues.


....and with the link...

http://www.provu.com/pdf/sipura/spa_...1x_spa1001.pdf



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