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Old 11-04-2006, 01:20 PM
Stu
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Default AVM: Fritz!Box Fon 7140

Anyone have experience with the 7140? Was contemplating getting a 7050
but this one has a USB port for printers etc as well. Want it for VoIP
and wireless.

It's available here in the Netherlands but I don't know about the UK
yet. Info here..

http://www.callvoip.nl/docs/fritz/fb..._datasheet.pdf

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Old 11-04-2006, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: Fritz!Box Fon 7140


"Stu" <_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone have experience with the 7140? Was contemplating
> getting a 7050 but this one has a USB port for printers
> etc as well. Want it for VoIP and wireless.
>
> It's available here in the Netherlands but I don't know
> about the UK yet. Info here..
>
> http://www.callvoip.nl/docs/fritz/fb..._datasheet.pdf


I believe that Sipgate will be selling the 7140 soon, but personally I'm
waiting for the 7170. Just out in Germany so hopefully here soon.

Ivor



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Old 11-04-2006, 05:06 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> I believe that Sipgate will be selling the 7140 soon, but personally I'm
> waiting for the 7170. Just out in Germany so hopefully here soon.


I just switched today my 7050 for the 7170 (german version)
only noticeable difference: the USB Port is not just to connect 1 PC, but it
is a system Port:
* you can add up to 4 harddrives (or memory sticks)
* 1 USB Printer (of course via a USB hub if more devices)
* the Drives can be read/write from the local network, but also from the
Internet (via ftp + password protected)

Other minor changes:
* 4 LAN Ports in stead of 2 (not really usefull, you can use a switch if
you need more Ports)
* to save space, they now combined ADSL + ISDN + PSTN in 1 RJ45
conncetor, with very unusual wiring
ADSL: pin 4+5 (this is the only normal pin configuration: ADSL on
the 2 middle pins)
ISDN: pin 1-2-7-8 (not the usual ISDN pin configuration)
analogue: pin 3+6 (this could fit a RJ11, with first and last pin
connected in setad of the 2 middle)
* WLAN on/off switch

I preferred the old model, with separated ADSL and ISDN connectors (don't
need the 4 LAN ports)
The real difference between 7050 and 7170 is the USB port for sharing
network drives and printers



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Old 11-04-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Fritz!Box Fon 7140

"Philippe Deleye" <Philippe.Deleye@blablabla.advalvas.be>
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4r3uiiFpquojU1@individual.net...
> > I believe that Sipgate will be selling the 7140 soon,
> > but personally I'm waiting for the 7170. Just out in
> > Germany so hopefully here soon.

>
> I just switched today my 7050 for the 7170 (german
> version)
> only noticeable difference: the USB Port is not just to
> connect 1 PC, but it is a system Port:
> * you can add up to 4 harddrives (or memory sticks)
> * 1 USB Printer (of course via a USB hub if more
> devices)
> * the Drives can be read/write from the local network,
> but also from the Internet (via ftp + password protected)
>
> Other minor changes:
> * 4 LAN Ports in stead of 2 (not really usefull, you
> can use a switch if you need more Ports)
> * to save space, they now combined ADSL + ISDN + PSTN
> in 1 RJ45 conncetor, with very unusual wiring
> ADSL: pin 4+5 (this is the only normal pin
> configuration: ADSL on the 2 middle pins)
> ISDN: pin 1-2-7-8 (not the usual ISDN pin
> configuration) analogue: pin 3+6 (this could fit
> a RJ11, with first and last pin
> connected in setad of the 2 middle)
> * WLAN on/off switch
>
> I preferred the old model, with separated ADSL and ISDN
> connectors (don't need the 4 LAN ports)
> The real difference between 7050 and 7170 is the USB port
> for sharing network drives and printers


Hi Phillipe,

Thanks for the info. The 4 LAN ports is important to me, I need the space
currently taken up by the switch I'm using, it's also one less power
supply..! I don't have ISDN so the combined port isn't a problem. I
already have 2 300GB NAS drives which have USB ports on, so I don't need
the USB port on the Fritz!Box, but it's a nice touch.

The 7140 doesn't have three VoIP phone ports, which is what I need,
coupled with the 4 LAN ports this is why I want the 7170.

Ivor



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Old 11-04-2006, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Fritz!Box Fon 7140

> I just switched today my 7050 for the 7170 (german version)
> only noticeable difference: the USB Port is not just to connect 1 PC, but it
> is a system Port:
> * you can add up to 4 harddrives (or memory sticks)
> * 1 USB Printer (of course via a USB hub if more devices)
> * the Drives can be read/write from the local network, but also from the
> Internet (via ftp + password protected)


Curious if these boxes are IPV6 upgradeable.

Can the 7170 be used as a router/ATA without the ADSL modem part? I may
switch to a cable modem in the future. According to
http://www.callvoip.nl/fritz.php they are modular. Just wanted confirmation.

I hope the 7170 (7140) works with any wireless card, not just the
FRITZ!WLAN USB-stick adapter?

Here in NL they sell the international version of the 7140 so I guess
any voice instructions are in English. Can't imagine they'd do one for
the Dutch market.


Stu

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Old 11-04-2006, 08:44 PM
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"Stu" <_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > I just switched today my 7050 for the 7170 (german
> > version) only noticeable difference: the USB Port is not just to
> > connect 1 PC, but it is a system Port:
> > * you can add up to 4 harddrives (or memory sticks)
> > * 1 USB Printer (of course via a USB hub if more
> > devices) * the Drives can be read/write from the local
> > network, but also from the Internet (via ftp + password
> > protected)

>
> Curious if these boxes are IPV6 upgradeable.
>
> Can the 7170 be used as a router/ATA without the ADSL
> modem part? I may switch to a cable modem in the future.
> According to http://www.callvoip.nl/fritz.php they are
> modular. Just wanted confirmation.


Yes. All the Fritz!Box range can.

> I hope the 7170 (7140) works with any wireless card, not
> just the FRITZ!WLAN USB-stick adapter?


I would assume so, it behaves as a wireless access point like any other,
except that it comes with security switched on by default, unlike most
other products.

> Here in NL they sell the international version of the
> 7140 so I guess any voice instructions are in English. Can't imagine
> they'd do one for the Dutch market.


What do you mean by "international" version..? AFAIK they are sold in two
versions, Annex A for POTS lines and Annex B for ISDN as in Germany. In my
original non-wireless Fritz!Box Fon, the international options are simply
a drop down list to select your country, those available are: Netherlands,
France, Spain, Hungary, Latvia, Austria, United Kingdom, Denmark, Germany,
Argentina and "any other country" - whether this selects language or
simply telephone system standards I don't know, as I've never tried..!

Ivor



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Old 11-06-2006, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Fritz!Box Fon 7140

> What do you mean by "international" version..? AFAIK they are sold in two
> versions, Annex A for POTS lines and Annex B for ISDN as in Germany. In my
> original non-wireless Fritz!Box Fon, the international options are simply
> a drop down list to select your country, those available are: Netherlands,
> France, Spain, Hungary, Latvia, Austria, United Kingdom, Denmark, Germany,
> Argentina and "any other country" - whether this selects language or
> simply telephone system standards I don't know, as I've never tried..!


International probably means not the Deutsch only version :)

Does the set-up allow you to handle different caller ID systems too?

Stu

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Old 11-07-2006, 01:02 AM
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"Stu" <_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > What do you mean by "international" version..? AFAIK
> > they are sold in two versions, Annex A for POTS lines
> > and Annex B for ISDN as in Germany. In my original
> > non-wireless Fritz!Box Fon, the international options
> > are simply a drop down list to select your country,
> > those available are: Netherlands, France, Spain,
> > Hungary, Latvia, Austria, United Kingdom, Denmark,
> > Germany, Argentina and "any other country" - whether
> > this selects language or simply telephone system
> > standards I don't know, as I've never tried..!

>
> International probably means not the Deutsch only version
> :)


As far as I'm aware, with the 7170 model, there isn't a version other than
the Annex B German version at the moment, as the device has only been on
the market there a matter of days. I'm hoping a UK-compatible one comes
out soon..!

> Does the set-up allow you to handle different caller ID
> systems too?


I don't think there is a specific setting, but there's a setting to set
your country, presumably this is taken care of there.

Ivor



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